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I can't believe I waded through this whole thread in one sitting.
I believe it was a poster named 1488 who suggested the US market wasn't looking for quality. But that kind of thinking is part of RIM's mistake. I had four 9800s in the year I got the Torch as my first BB. I'm on my second 9810 thanks to random reboots on the first one. Look at the threads about 99xx issues. RIM's poor QC is going to kill them.
Someone mentioned Apple's 300,000 apps. If you eliminate the bad ones and the unnecessary duplicates, they'd have 1/4 or less of that number. But the fact is that iOS and Android have the developers. RIM could have more if, as others have said here, RIM actually paid attention to the developers.
We've talked about advertising. And the fact that RIM let's the carriers do their advertising. If you're not doing well in a market, the temptation is to cut your own advertising expenses in that market. But that eliminates one major factor in regaining that market. Apple and the Android phone makers have all pushed the benefits of using their OSes and hardware without tying it to a carrier. The consumer ends up being sold on the phone before considering who the carrier might be.
It's been mentioned that RIM wasn't prepared for companies letting employees uses something other than Blackberries to connect with company systems. The other OSes have improved security -- enough to keep the IT departments from freaking out. And the cost savings of some of the functions going through BIS/BES systems is less important as companies more often make the employee pay the phone bill. But RIM marketed the company, not the employees.
RIM needs to step up QC, improve developer relations and go directly to consumers with why and how Blackberry phones will benefit them. I don't recall if it was in this thread or another one, but someone talked about BB not seeming relevant. RIM can be relevant, but they have to show consumers that they are. That's not done by rushing phones to market with huge issues, just to grab some of the market. Because that won't keep it. That's not done by ignoring apps, but showing that the variety and quality of apps for BB is sufficient. And that's not done by having the carriers advertise for you, because that gets ads that don't say enough about the phone.12-18-11 10:03 AM - 1: There are over 500,000 Apple App store apps. Yes there are duplicates, triplicates and more. However not all apps are created equal. Some of the productivity apps that have multiple iterations don't all have the same functionality. Chances are greater you will find something to meet your needs with the variety of choice.I can't believe I waded through this whole thread in one sitting.
I believe it was a poster named 1488 who suggested the US market wasn't looking for quality. But that kind of thinking is part of RIM's mistake. I had four 9800s in the year I got the Torch as my first BB. I'm on my second 9810 thanks to random reboots on the first one. Look at the threads about 99xx issues. RIM's poor QC is going to kill them.
Someone mentioned Apple's 300,000 apps. If you eliminate the bad ones and the unnecessary duplicates, they'd have 1/4 or less of that number. But the fact is that iOS and Android have the developers. RIM could have more if, as others have said here, RIM actually paid attention to the developers.
We've talked about advertising. And the fact that RIM let's the carriers do their advertising. If you're not doing well in a market, the temptation is to cut your own advertising expenses in that market. But that eliminates one major factor in regaining that market. Apple and the Android phone makers have all pushed the benefits of using their OSes and hardware without tying it to a carrier. The consumer ends up being sold on the phone before considering who the carrier might be.
It's been mentioned that RIM wasn't prepared for companies letting employees uses something other than Blackberries to connect with company systems. The other OSes have improved security -- enough to keep the IT departments from freaking out. And the cost savings of some of the functions going through BIS/BES systems is less important as companies more often make the employee pay the phone bill. But RIM marketed the company, not the employees.
RIM needs to step up QC, improve developer relations and go directly to consumers with why and how Blackberry phones will benefit them. I don't recall if it was in this thread or another one, but someone talked about BB not seeming relevant. RIM can be relevant, but they have to show consumers that they are. That's not done by rushing phones to market with huge issues, just to grab some of the market. Because that won't keep it. That's not done by ignoring apps, but showing that the variety and quality of apps for BB is sufficient. And that's not done by having the carriers advertise for you, because that gets ads that don't say enough about the phone.
2: There is something called Good For Enterprise which is a self encrypted email app. It also has management capabilities for Android and IOS. One of the sites bullet points:
GMC Self Service options allow IT administrators to delegate routine mobile device management actions to end users, such as activating a new mobile device, or initiating data wipe, without having to generate an IT support call. The app does not equal BB on total functionality, but users seem to like it, especially since they are using their own preferred device.12-18-11 11:29 AM
