Who's liable when "BYOD" goes wrong?
- I really don't think that you, and the other resident "security experts" at Crackberry gives as much credit to corporate Americas CIO's as they deserve...
They would have reviewed the potential pitfalls and beenefits of a change to a BYOD policy, if necessary implemented different security levels for different users, and concluded that the change was worth it, before they proceeded.
FIPS is no guarantee of security either, simply another CYA even though it is a good CYA because it does require a lot of testing. I've used FIPS approved devices where vulnerabilities were discovered after they were approved, they get patched, then re-approved and you load the new code on and go.02-16-12 10:18 AMLike 0 - I actually think that customer satisfaction would still be higher. Using am iPhone is just a very pleasing experience overall... You should try it sometime. Same can be said for some of the.Android handsets as well, like HTC...02-16-12 10:19 AMLike 0
- Nowhere on my personal list, actually. I am tasked with safeguarding systems, connections, firewalls, data, contracts. Individual employee personal satisfaction with a tool is not a concern. I leave that to the morale, welfare and recreation branch.
Cold? Yup. Hard nosed? Yup. B1tchy? Yup. My personal opinions have nothing to do with my employees. I deal with everyone who works for me on a professional level.
And that is the reality of an IT and contracts manager in a secure agency. Other division managers have other responsibilities.
Now, personally I don't know many IT people or CIOs, but I assume they're professionals like you, and that their decisions are supported by an analysis of all pertinent risks. If the dangers are so obvious, why would they make this switch?02-16-12 10:20 AMLike 0 - I really don't think that you, and the other resident "security experts" at Crackberry gives as much credit to corporate Americas CIO's as they deserve...
They would have reviewed the potential pitfalls and beenefits of a change to a BYOD policy, if necessary implemented different security levels for different users, and concluded that the change was worth it, before they proceeded.02-16-12 10:20 AMLike 0 - Sith_ApprenticeMod Team EmeritusGOOD is NOT as secure as a BB on BES. Lets be clear about that. It is a secure container, and does nothing to secure the device itself.02-16-12 10:21 AMLike 0
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As far as within my agency, satisfaction with a PC, laptop, copier, printer, mobile device are the lowest considerations. Security, productivity, monitoring and accountability are paramount.02-16-12 10:32 AMLike 0 - And some do. I no longer have to worry about that, but I recall times when any remote access to some places had to be by the ways specified by the agency/department or no access. Sometimes at some cost to the contractor.02-16-12 10:43 AMLike 0
- Again, I didn't say you should be concerned about anything. But at the same time, the feigned concern regarding how an employee might feel using an iPhone without Angry Birds is disingenuous.
Now, personally I don't know many IT people or CIOs, but I assume they're professionals like you, and that their decisions are supported by an analysis of all pertinent risks. If the dangers are so obvious, why would they make this switch?
There are separate organisations with different sets of risks. An organisation that is not charged with public trust would not have the same level of risk as a secure agency. If I were part of the Federal government charged with providing guides and tablets for customers to use during tours, I might see a possibility. However, just as there are preferences as well as regulatory considerations, I would not support BYOD. I would want work/personal separate. And as a personal choice, I would not want to use my personal device for work. When I take a vacation I want to take a vacation and not be saddled with work emails or phone calls.kbz1960 likes this.02-16-12 10:54 AMLike 1 - My concern about Angry Birds was intended to be disingenuous.
There are separate organisations with different sets of risks. An organisation that is not charged with public trust would not have the same level of risk as a secure agency. If I were part of the Federal government charged with providing guides and tablets for customers to use during tours, I might see a possibility. However, just as there are preferences as well as regulatory considerations, I would not support BYOD. I would want work/personal separate. And as a personal choice, I would not want to use my personal device for work. When I take a vacation I want to take a vacation and not be saddled with work emails or phone calls.02-16-12 11:49 AMLike 0 - Again, I didn't say you should be concerned about anything. But at the same time, the feigned concern regarding how an employee might feel using an iPhone without Angry Birds is disingenuous.
Now, personally I don't know many IT people or CIOs, but I assume they're professionals like you, and that their decisions are supported by an analysis of all pertinent risks. If the dangers are so obvious, why would they make this switch?kbz1960 likes this.02-16-12 12:02 PMLike 1 -
I partly agree with you... But then again, I trust Apple... And I suspect the vast majority of people/users are like me. Trust Apple and the developers we get our apps from, but doesn't install apps from dodgy sources. (And dodgy devs can be a threat on any platform. Some have even slipped through RIMs security measures)
And if a developer screws up on a rare occasion like Path did, its no big deal. The day I'm so paranoid that I in all seriousness say: " ohnoes! They have my addressbook!" is the day I get rid of all of my gadgets/devices.02-16-12 12:02 PMLike 0 - Sith_ApprenticeMod Team EmeritusYou mean like in Android?
I partly agree with you... But then again, I trust Apple... And I suspect the vast majority of people/users are like me. Trust Apple and the developers we get our apps from, but doesn't install apps from dodgy sources. (And dodgy devs can be a threat on any platform. Some have even slipped through RIMs security measures)
And if a developer screws up on a rare occasion like Path did, its no big deal. The day I'm so paranoid that I in all seriousness say: " ohnoes! They have my addressbook!" is the day I get rid of all of my gadgets/devices.02-16-12 12:05 PMLike 0
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