What is the remaining BlackBerry value?
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About BB Android/BB10 maybe with 50 you are optimist... Lol!! I agree with you that they are probably very few....11-08-19 09:29 AMLike 0 - What does the employee count have to do with BB licensing/selling their keyboard patents which would generate SOME revenue as opposed to letting them sit there, generating ZERO revenue?11-08-19 09:34 AMLike 0
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https://www.blackberry.com/content/d...nformation.pdf11-08-19 09:47 AMLike 0 -
From the screen of my trusty Z10 using the exceptional BlackBerry VKB.11-08-19 11:31 AMLike 0 - The biggest reason for setting a minimum value is that below a certain price, it affects the pricing BB charges on any other deals for it’s various IP on the books. It can also devalue any future claims for IP violations against companies stealing IP from the various companies or divisions under the BlackBerry umbrella.app_Developer likes this.11-08-19 01:10 PMLike 1
- The biggest reason for setting a minimum value is that below a certain price, it affects the pricing BB charges on any other deals for it’s various IP on the books. It can also devalue any future claims for IP violations against companies stealing IP from the various companies or divisions under the BlackBerry umbrella.
Do we really think BB is going to be "devalued" in the eyes of other companies just because they saw that TCL paid them little money for their keyboard patents?
In 2019, it would be a miracle that ANYONE would be interested in paying BB ANYTHING for those keyboard patents, in an era when most companies wouldn't even use them if they were given them for free.11-08-19 02:27 PMLike 0 - I'm really not sure where you're pulling this from...
Do we really think BB is going to be "devalued" in the eyes of other companies just because they saw that TCL paid them little money for their keyboard patents?
In 2019, it would be a miracle that ANYONE would be interested in paying BB ANYTHING for those keyboard patents, in an era when most companies wouldn't even use them if they were given them for free.
Additionally, $10USD for each device sold with $1 million USD minimum for instance? Too much too little? How much is BB demanding in current lawsuits per user for patent infringement?11-08-19 03:38 PMLike 0 - I think I am one of the few users that make use of the BlackBerry software that comes with these phones. I make use of BlackBerry Hub, calendar, password keeper, launcher, and the keyboard it comes with (on vkb BlackBerry Androids).
At this point, I am just used to BlackBerry keyboard (both pkb and vkb) as well as the BlackBerry software, so I think I will just stay with BlackBerry branded phones for now. They add enough value to me.Laura Knotek likes this.11-09-19 12:53 AMLike 1 - Nobody has yet mentioned the blue dot notifier which stops BB users looking like every other idiot, constantly checking for messages. It is elegant beyond belief and I will die without it.
Next up is Hub which, combined with search makes a BB user with a big, multi-faceted life infinitely more efficient than someone using any of the competition.
Then the possibility to choose how emails are displayed, including to have sent emails displayed separately.
And then of course the PKB.....as well as DTEK, battery life, rubber back.
I simply cannot believe that KEy2 and Key2LE are going to disappear. There is simply nothing else in the market place that does half of the jobs half as well as BB.
You can install BB Hub in most Androids from why I remember.
Battery life is an area BB fell behind long ago, pretty much every mid end and flagship since 2017 has large batteries with fast charging that can easily do 2 days, depending on usage of course.
DTEK features pretty much exist in the latest build of Android and iOS, with controls over what apps get access to as well.
PKB and Rubber Back, you can definitely have those.11-09-19 02:23 AMLike 0 - All nokia androids are android one. Xiaomi Mi A lines are also android one. There is one more worth mentioning, asus zenfone Max series (Max and Max pro). They're stock android, not android one, but Asus gives then better OS updates/upgrades.
This is what I think. BBtax is wasteful. Come with their own pkb design, let google handle the OS (android one).11-09-19 03:46 AMLike 0 -
- If they felt there was a market for them I’m sure they would. I would love a PKB phone from Nokia. I doubt we’ll ever see one though.Laura Knotek and chain13 like this.11-09-19 07:37 AMLike 2
- All nokia androids are android one. Xiaomi Mi A lines are also android one. There is one more worth mentioning, asus zenfone Max series (Max and Max pro). They're stock android, not android one, but Asus gives then better OS updates/upgrades.
Or pay nothing at all. They could come with their own pkb design. No capacitive, no double typing, no wobbling keys, no fancy. This way they could avoid blackberry tax and make their devices cheaper
This is what I think. BBtax is wasteful. Come with their own pkb design, let google handle the OS (android one).Laura Knotek likes this.11-09-19 08:39 AMLike 1 - Yep, totally get that, I was highlighting that a Notification LED is not the be all and end all for knowing when you have Notifications.
But regarding mechanical watches, I have had my fair share of them, mostly Fossil and Fastina watches, absolutely loved them but I always forgot about them overtime.
I never thought I’d like smart watches, but then early this year I got a Huawei Band Pro 2 that was more of a fitness tracker with notifications functionality and I was instantly hooked at how convenient it was to see a glimpse of what was going on without touching my phone even if it’s in another room e.g. if I had a meeting to be at, had a text or a Instagram comment or even a calendar event like a Birthday at that point I knew I had to get a fully functional smart watch
I am absolutely loving my Apple Watch, I can leave my iPhone in another room e.g. when going out on Friday nights after work I always first drop my car off at home before I go out drinking. So I get home, put my phone on the entrance table, go to my room, change and while changing I request the Uber on my Apple Watch, carry on getting ready, maybe faf around a little and get my iPhone to play music (controlling it with my watch, it then auto plays through the BT loudspeaker that auto connects to my iPhone when I turn it on), when the Uber arrives I get the notification on my Watch, head to the door and simply grab my iPhone on the way out. All that without touching my phone, convenience on a whole other level. I can never go back to a mechanical watch after having more computing power on my wrist than most smartphones from the early 2000s11-09-19 11:41 AMLike 0 - Yep, totally get that, I was highlighting that a Notification LED is not the be all and end all for knowing when you have Notifications.
But regarding mechanical watches, I have had my fair share of them, mostly Fossil and Fastina watches, absolutely loved them but I always forgot about them overtime.
I never thought I’d like smart watches, but then early this year I got a Huawei Band Pro 2 that was more of a fitness tracker with notifications functionality and I was instantly hooked at how convenient it was to see a glimpse of what was going on without touching my phone even if it’s in another room e.g. if I had a meeting to be at, had a text or a Instagram comment or even a calendar event like a Birthday at that point I knew I had to get a fully functional smart watch
I am absolutely loving my Apple Watch, I can leave my iPhone in another room e.g. when going out on Friday nights after work I always first drop my car off at home before I go out drinking. So I get home, put my phone on the entrance table, go to my room, change and while changing I request the Uber on my Apple Watch, carry on getting ready, maybe faf around a little and get my iPhone to play music (controlling it with my watch, it then auto plays through the BT loudspeaker that auto connects to my iPhone when I turn it on), when the Uber arrives I get the notification on my Watch, head to the door and simply grab my iPhone on the way out. All that without touching my phone, convenience on a whole other level. I can never go back to a mechanical watch after having more computing power on my wrist than most smartphones from the early 2000s
For me, I’ll just keep my phone close and my Nomos Tangente (or other mechanical watch) on my wrist, unless I suddenly develop cardiac issues I want to monitor closely and then I might have to compromise.Tsepz_GP likes this.11-09-19 12:02 PMLike 1 - Very cool. They certainly have a place in the watch world. I can see a lot of medical uses for them also and this will increase as the technology advances.
For me, I’ll just keep my phone close and my Nomos Tangente (or other mechanical watch) on my wrist, unless I suddenly develop cardiac issues I want to monitor closely and then I might have to compromise.11-09-19 12:08 PMLike 0 -
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Also, for me, there is a joy in wearing such a mechanically advanced device such a watch. My Zenith El Primero, for instance, has a movement with over 175 parts. Amazing.Laura Knotek likes this.11-09-19 05:39 PMLike 1 - Much like has been stated, when the phone is in your pocket you can see the time without pulling it out.
Also, for me, there is a joy in wearing such a mechanically advanced device such a watch. My Zenith El Primero, for instance, has a movement with over 175 parts. Amazing.
I have other watches and they sit in drawers gathering dust. I'm retired and live in a hot climate. The need to check time constantly is as important to me as avoiding a constant sweaty, black wrist.Laura Knotek likes this.11-09-19 05:51 PMLike 1 - I’ve read somewhere that one movement a day is a minimum. Also if dual carry watch and phone, what if dual carrying two phones? One watch or two? Quad carry?
Is Rolex still a thing or is that now just for old guys? Which has more cachet, Rolex or bejeweled Apple Watch for instance?11-09-19 05:53 PMLike 0 - I understand your reasons. I had my 25 year old Swiss Sector stripped and the body / band polished. My tech driven son now wears it proudly because he can see no value / benefit in the current smart watch offerings. I hope he hands it down to his children as a relic on a by gone era.
I have other watches and they sit in drawers gathering dust. I'm retired and live in a hot climate. The need to check time constantly is as important to me as avoiding a constant sweaty, black wrist.11-09-19 06:01 PMLike 0 - I’ve read somewhere that one movement a day is a minimum. Also if dual carry watch and phone, what if dual carrying two phones? One watch or two? Quad carry?
Is Rolex still a thing or is that now just for old guys? Which has more cachet, Rolex or bejeweled Apple Watch for instance?11-09-19 06:03 PMLike 0 -
- I’ve read somewhere that one movement a day is a minimum. Also if dual carry watch and phone, what if dual carrying two phones? One watch or two? Quad carry?
Is Rolex still a thing or is that now just for old guys? Which has more cachet, Rolex or bejeweled Apple Watch for instance?elfabio80 likes this.11-09-19 06:55 PMLike 1
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