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  1. drummastermike's Avatar
    1. The OP talks about using his DRY pocket making it sound like a damp or wet environment... Almost zero chance of static.
    2. O.P. Talks about the violent surge of electricity, and describes it similar to a Tazer which uses far larger batteries AND CAPACITORS to deliver its charge. I note a distinct lack of both items in BBs
    3. There is talk of hearing damage etc... But even if this was a true story, its lacking a few things
    - the likely discharge path would not be the headphones. Even if it did as the tale sort of describes, the "burns" from this would likely be 2nd and or 3rd degree burns. Not so fun in the inner ear
    - this voltage claimed to be delivered through the ears would destroy not just damage eardrums.
    - this voltage passed through the brain would also cause damage, likely removing all sense of common sense and logic (wait a minute... Maybe THAT'S what happened!) or his life altogether.

    Hey O.P. Go to youtube. Look up Jeff foxworthy. Find his video called "here's your sign" cuz your lawyers would have told you to keep your mouth shut, not spread it on a public forum where people from ALL OVER the world read it

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    Hey responder. It happened. I'm Hurt. Its not a secret if it's happened to others.
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    04-20-09 09:40 PM
  2. ccannavo's Avatar
    In anger I wrote this post. I wasn't trying to be made fun of bashed on or anything of the sort. I just wanted answers and worded my thoughts on text. Sorry.

    I am now seeking an E.N.T. DR. this week to figure out whats wrong. I am in pain, tears and deep depression because I've valued my hearing my whole life.

    For those who have experience this shock I am sorry. Any shock that will bring you to your knees screaming is not a pleasant experience and should never happen.
    Cheep headphones or (Head Sets) should not be given with any phone unless you sign a waver or are instructed of the consequences in usage. I never heard of such a thing in my life either.

    I do hope I recover. The only reason I announced a lawsuit, which is uncertain, in the beginning of my post was to vent for my uninsured and outrageous hospital bills I am now going to see in the near future.

    For all the bashes and negative people with a witty insult. Why waste your time with response, my accident or well being is nothing to your personal gain.
    Hmmmm....

    Back to the topic, Dont Taze Me Bro!!!

    Maybe there is some other underlying cause or source of the problem. Maybe your ears are sensitive or something of that nature.

    Sorry for the bad joke, I had too.
    Last edited by ccannavo; 04-20-09 at 09:45 PM.
    04-20-09 09:42 PM
  3. drummastermike's Avatar
    This is rediculous. I'm curious as to why he thought it was important enough to announce this lawsuit to the crackberry nation. 1st post and this is the nonsense he is claiming? Man-up!
    Squeaky door get the oil.

    My CT Scan didn't look like BS.
    Doctors felt an MRI was necessary.
    Pain Medication, Steroids and future follows up to a specialist were demanded. .....no nonsence.
    04-20-09 09:49 PM
  4. pancho3266's Avatar
    its a load of ****. There is no way in **** the phone can produce that much power to where it would ruin your hearing. If that was the case, the electrical shock would go straight into your brain and cause damage there. Someone else mentioned this earlier in the post and I agree with them wholeheartedly. I've been shocked before with my ipod headphones, my HTC headphones and my curve headphones... its a zap and it sucks but thats it. Makes you wonder wtf is going on and then laugh it off. With my HTC headphones I went for a jog... headphones were covered in sweat and there was plenty of static electricity as the phone was in my pocket... and I still received a very minor shock. If phones were able to produce that much voltage, I would've been brain dead. My stupid mistake got me shocked, not bagged and tagged. Sympathy, you get none. So what are you omitting from this story? were you posing for your Captain Morgan photo with one foot on a power generator and another in a puddle during an electrical storm whilst listening to your Boy George album on your Storm? Like the blackberry battery that exploded... it was water damaged. things go awry when customer damage is done onto the devices. did u drop ur phone in the pisser previously? there has got to be more to it than just static electricity.
    Oh, and on a side note, the wire in the headphone cables that connect your phone to the speaker portion of the headset CANNOT pass anywhere near enough current to cause any damage. RIP Common Sense, our beloved lost friend.
    04-20-09 09:50 PM
  5. princessdenise's Avatar
    Through. Through. Through. Through. Whew, had to get that out. Carry on.

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    04-20-09 09:56 PM
  6. raverx3m's Avatar
    ok guys i didnt read thru the whole post and not sure if someone mentioned it.
    anyway
    i did pay attention to my physics teacher and can also agree that thos lawyers will eat you like cheezecake regardless of what lawyers you get.

    the phone cant build up charge its not big enough capacitor to build up and discharge that much static. it would probably damage the phone before it will shock you that bad

    i get shocked ocasionally from random things:headphones, cars, door handle etc.
    should i go sue every plastic.metal object i come in contact with?
    i would if i didnt know how static builds up.
    go to howstuff works and read.

    static builds up from friction between your body and clothes you wear.
    if you really hairy then its worse.
    if its very dry it will build up quick.
    + if you wear polyester clothes its worse cause its synthetic.
    so when you touch an object its you that discharges the static not the object you touch.

    few times i got shocked so bad i saw smoke from my finger and lately i ve been shocked every time i touch a car
    after a while my finger started hurting.

    thats when i stopped wearing my polyester jacket lol

    so for you to be shocked from headphones means YOU build up the charge and discharged it thru headphones and then blamed it on the phone... so sue your parrents for not making you pay attention to what teachers in school were telling you.
    04-20-09 10:03 PM
  7. raverx3m's Avatar
    no pitty for you bro because you are one of the reasons we got thousands of agreements to sign and every acessory comes with ugly stickers warning people not to stick them in wrong places or eat them or whatever comes to your mind.
    and then trying to file a lawsuit agianst a company.
    04-20-09 10:07 PM
  8. princessdenise's Avatar
    Its so depressing to watch the TV and when ever I see the Version guy talking and asking "CAN YOU HEAR ME NOW" I feel depressed knowing I can't really hear much of anything.
    Who's the Version guy and what version is he? 1.0, 2.0? Maybe you need an upgrade, cause I can hear mine just fine.

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    04-20-09 10:53 PM
  9. phatsk8311's Avatar
    If only they had made headphones that wouldn't pass an electrical current from point A to B, I wouldn't be talking about any of this now would I?
    That would be phycically impossible to make a headphones (corded) that do not pass current from point A to point B. The headphones operate by sending electrical pulses to the magnes in the speaker of the headphone to produce sound. Without this electrical current, you would have no sound. The gauge of the wire in a pair of headphones, especially the little ear buds that come with most portable devices these days, is probably about a 30 gauge wire. According the Americal Wire Gauge (AWG) tables, a 30 gauge wire is only capable of carrying 0.124 amps. Beyond that, the metal conductor wire inside the casing would fry and essentially blow like a BUS fuse in your car. Unless you go to a bluetooth headset, you will always have a wire carrying electrical current to your ear. Even with bluetooth, you have current, just no wire. The battery is attached to the side of your ear. I highly doubt that a headphone wire could carry enough current to hurt you but it is always a possibility of getting shocked when you essentially jam a live wire in your ear, which is what you are doing by putting on any pair of headphones.
    04-20-09 10:55 PM
  10. phatsk8311's Avatar
    Who's the Version guy and what version is he? 1.0, 2.0? Maybe you need an upgrade, cause I can hear mine just fine.

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    04-20-09 10:58 PM
  11. rachaelrant's Avatar
    I highly doubt that a headphone wire could carry enough current to hurt you but it is always a possibility of getting shocked when you essentially jam a live wire in your ear, which is what you are doing by putting on any pair of headphones.
    Great, just what I needed to hear. I'm a medical transcriptionist and have spent the last 15 years working 8+ hours a day and never even thought about this before, as well as just buying new headphones for my Berry.

    Now I have something new to worry about.

    LOL
    04-20-09 11:33 PM
  12. LondoJowo's Avatar
    I will say it again, there's no way a 4vdc battery and the extremely small capacitors in the phone could have caused this shock. Static electricity can't be produced by the phone. Your case holds no water and it will be laughed out of court.
    04-20-09 11:55 PM
  13. ecliptikz's Avatar
    ouch did it hurt
    04-20-09 11:58 PM
  14. mtoomey79's Avatar
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    I just watched this.

    I'm going to sue you.
    04-21-09 12:05 AM
  15. riceastwood's Avatar
    Hmmmmm tough one to call. First off as many in here have said they have felt a shock through there head phones as well as me (ipod) but DRUM if this has happened to you like you said the phone should be damaged to where you can even use it. If this is your second phone because you said the first one leaked fluid maybe its something with you. Nah let me stop but anyway if it damaged your ears that bad you should have the headphones and phone in a safe place. Also the doctor or doctors in the ER will have to document that the headphones causes this problem as well as the phone because like it has been said in here the phone can not produce that much of a charge and if it did you should also have some burns on your leg where the phone was.

    You have to understand why our fellow crackberry family feels this way to me it doesn't make sense but if this did happen the way you said and you are filing a lawsuit you need to prove and have proof of all this and the first thing I would be looking for is a burn mark on your leg second a damaged burnt out phone and headphones and last documents from the hospital that said all this is true also PICTURES PICTURES PICTURES and don't forget witnesses.

    Something for you to think about if you wanna file a lawsuit.
    04-21-09 12:10 AM
  16. ccannavo's Avatar
    I just watched this.

    I'm going to sue you.
    LOL

    Some kind of sue happy society we live in huh?
    04-21-09 12:12 AM
  17. pkcable's Avatar
    Tell you what, I'm now awful glad I'm no longer using the cheap stock headphones myself. .

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    04-21-09 12:13 AM
  18. tormozmedved's Avatar
    Whoa! I can't say I've had that problem yet. Sounds like a movie where they fry your brain via cell phone
    04-21-09 12:14 AM
  19. cadsystems's Avatar
    I had a set of headphones that would do this, but it wasn't a shock but more of a static pop when i messed with the cable. It was on a zune that I no longer use or need. It didn't hurt but was more startling. I'm thinking this is a frivolous law suit. I can't imagine this making it very far in court, maybe you'll get to be on the Today show but nothing more than that.
    04-21-09 09:20 AM
  20. thinkamp's Avatar
    Wow that is just nuts! I hope you start to feel better.

    Glad I bought some GOOD headphones... the headphones that come with the blackberry! I had those busted within a month.
    04-21-09 09:32 AM
  21. joni4's Avatar
    I don't know what happened, I wasn't there, but I have been using headphones with all of my phones since we were able to put music on them Thank God, I have never had this happened to me. I am not an electrician, I don't know how this can happen but obviously it can. Hope you get better and don't suffer any permanent damage. I would check around to see if this has happened to this extent before I filed a lawsuit.
    04-21-09 09:46 AM
  22. sniffs's Avatar
    Yes I am seeking a lawsuit! This is what happened.

    I was at work with my music playing threw the headphones that came with my Storm. Not wanting to damage the phone it was in my DRY pocket. Static built up causing multiple shocks coursing threw my headphones damaging both my ears. I dropped to the ground screaming like I was being tazered and spent half the day in the E.R. STILL suffering hearing loss as well as bad balance.

    What if I was driving with my daughter, riding my bike or pumping gas!!!

    I looked all over the web seeking others with the same problem. I guess I am the first and my guess is I am not going to be the last.

    Please pass the word around!

    drummastermike@gmail.com
    It's against the law to drive with stereo headsets on. If you bring up a lawsuit, even class action, do you think that their lawyers will ask what you were doing at the time?

    I'm sorry for your jolt, that would be very scary, but keep in mind that we need to stop with the free lawsuit handouts. People have gotten so used to suing that it's become part of the American dream.

    please think it through before you try and sue.. doing something illegal while something like this happens, your case most likely will get thrown out.

    I've gotten shocked from dragging my feet on the carpet and then touching a doorknob.. should I sue Schlagg?

    I've been shocked by going to touch the lightswitch.. should I sue them? Heck, should I sue the carpet manufacturers for not grounding out the carpet?

    I'm not saying it's frivilous.. just think it through.
    04-21-09 10:03 AM
  23. LondoJowo's Avatar
    I have been working in the electronic/electrical field for 30 years and there's more to the story than the OP is telling. If by chance a judge allows this to go forward the OP will be ate alive by expert witnesses with electronic backgrounds who will definitively prove that the internal circuits of the phone can't produce a shock of the magnitude the OP claims.
    04-21-09 10:10 AM
  24. korp#IM's Avatar
    i have experience this multiple times (although not so tragic) with my itouch that i used to own. The static build up would shock me through my apple headphones (all junk and purposfully junk to get you to buy more $30 headphones) but i just got really freaked out and kinda went into a shock mode were i was shaky but did not experience hearing loss (that i know of) never have i with my storm headphones thats one of the things that made me also upgrade to the jabra stereo bluetooth headphones. Not a problem.
    I had that with my ipod headphones as well but a very minor shock since the batteries are very weak. Anyways ... I don't believe your suppose to have headphones in your ears while driving.
    04-21-09 10:27 AM
  25. adzay's Avatar
    raaah.... can you still hear?
    04-21-09 11:52 AM
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