1. bluegreen1965's Avatar
    I was on Verizon's site today and noticed that within the Smartphone category, Blackberry is no longer listed in the brand list. The BB phones are still showing, but without the name in the brand list, BB is slipping further from people's minds. Not good.
    07-01-14 12:48 PM
  2. DYLANHABKIRK's Avatar
    It does seem odd that it's not under 'Brand'

    It is however still listed under OS's

    This should help everyone see what we're talking about:
    Attached Thumbnails Is Verizon dissing Blackberry?-screen-shot-2014-07-01-2.00.24-pm.jpg  
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    07-01-14 01:02 PM
  3. anon1727506's Avatar
    I was on Verizon's site today and noticed that within the Smartphone category, Blackberry is no longer listed in the brand list. The BB phones are still showing, but without the name in the brand list, BB is slipping further from people's minds. Not good.
    Yeah I noticed that too.....

    The devices showing up without having to click on the BlackBerry category anymore is an improvement, and you can still select BlackBerry via the OS category if you wanted to filter out the other devices.

    But I don't see this as a "dissing" move, it's about sales. If anything I bet Verizon is having to eat some of the cost of support BlackBerry...
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    07-01-14 01:07 PM
  4. Rello's Avatar
    I mean....are people still surprised by this happening? What new products do they have to sell? Only year+ old devices that didn't sell well when they were released. This is going to continue to happen. We'll see if BlackBerry ramp up the advertising when the new devices launch and get people to care

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    07-01-14 01:17 PM
  5. Bold_until_Hybrid_Comes's Avatar
    Casio makes cell phones? Lol
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    07-01-14 01:19 PM
  6. gokulesh's Avatar
    Casio makes cell phones? Lol
    Exactly. Casino deserves a mention and the US carrier apologists make this a BlackBerry fault. I get BlackBerry share is declining but to blame it only on BlackBerry and how it is costly for them but it is not for Casio? BS.

    This is dissing. Pure and simple.

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    07-01-14 01:42 PM
  7. Dave Bourque's Avatar
    Yeah I noticed that too.....

    The devices showing up without having to click on the BlackBerry category anymore is an improvement, and you can still select BlackBerry via the OS category if you wanted to filter out the other devices.

    But I don't see this as a "dissing" move, it's about sales. If anything I bet Verizon is having to eat some of the cost of support BlackBerry...
    Bull****. You didn't notice all those other brands that nobody knows about did you ? This counters your point completely about "cost"...

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    07-01-14 01:49 PM
  8. Ment's Avatar
    Casio makes cell phones? Lol
    Hey now be more sympathetic. You know how that feels.
    07-01-14 01:52 PM
  9. Atmarix's Avatar
    Someone report it to Verizon!
    Someone who has contract with them ofc

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    07-01-14 01:55 PM
  10. donnation's Avatar
    Casio makes cell phones? Lol
    I had one and thought I had a photo of it but I don't think I do.

    Edit: I swear at one point I had a Casio phone like 10 years ago when I'd buy phones all the time. Oh well, can't find a pic of one.
    Last edited by donnation; 07-01-14 at 02:08 PM.
    07-01-14 01:57 PM
  11. anon1727506's Avatar
    Bull****. You didn't notice all those other brands that nobody knows about did you ? This counters your point completely about "cost"...

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    ??? I'm interested in BlackBerry... Don't know what you mean about other brands - Verizon has nine "Brand" of smartphones, they all show up on their main smartphone page, and also under their BRAND filter, except for BlackBerry.

    If you are referring to others post about Casio - which is listed. This is a unique product in their line up that fills a small nice (meets military standards to withstand water* immersion, dust and drops.). Going in I bet Verizon knew it might only sell a few million of these to people that need that level of protection - it isn't a competitor for any other device in their line up. My comment on cost is that there is a cost in offering any device, testing, supporting, exchanges, co-opting advertising, in-store adds, website maintenance, Inventory control.....

    There is no denying that Carrier are limiting their "exposure" to BlackBerry's inability to create products that the "masses" want to buy. Will not be surprised if the Passport gets the same treatment as the Z30 by many - maybe even Verizon this time around. Do I think Verizon will drop BlackBerry, no they know that BlackBerry devices also fit a niche. But that doesn't mean they will support four or five devices in the future.
    07-01-14 02:15 PM
  12. Dave Bourque's Avatar
    ??? I'm interested in BlackBerry... Don't know what you mean about other brands - Verizon has nine "Brand" of smartphones, they all show up on their main smartphone page, and also under their BRAND filter, except for BlackBerry.

    If you are referring to others post about Casio - which is listed. This is a unique product in their line up that fills a small nice (meets military standards to withstand water* immersion, dust and drops.). Going in I bet Verizon knew it might only sell a few million of these to people that need that level of protection - it isn't a competitor for any other device in their line up. My comment on cost is that there is a cost in offering any device, testing, supporting, exchanges, co-opting advertising, in-store adds, website maintenance, Inventory control.....

    There is no denying that Carrier are limiting their "exposure" to BlackBerry's inability to create products that the "masses" want to buy. Will not be surprised if the Passport gets the same treatment as the Z30 by many - maybe even Verizon this time around. Do I think Verizon will drop BlackBerry, no they know that BlackBerry devices also fit a niche. But that doesn't mean they will support four or five devices in the future.
    Really... Casio, Delphi, Pantech, Kyocera are brands that consumers want to buy over BlackBerry... because this is what you are suggesting by not listing BlackBerry under brand. Also the OS listing is wrong. It should be BlackBerry OS 7 and BlackBerry 10

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    Last edited by Dave Bourque; 07-01-14 at 02:45 PM.
    07-01-14 02:30 PM
  13. Evilguppy's Avatar
    Casio makes cell phones? Lol
    My husband uses a Casio Brigade. He's had it for 5 years, loves it, refuses to consider anything else.
    07-01-14 03:43 PM
  14. lnichols's Avatar
    Really... Casio, Delphi, Pantech, Kyocera are brands that consumers want to buy over BlackBerry... because this is what you are suggesting by not listing BlackBerry under brand. Also the OS listing is wrong. It should be BlackBerry OS 7 and BlackBerry 10

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    Apparently most consumers do. The device mentioned are mostly dumb and/or cheap smartphones. BlackBerry made no attempt to distinguish BBOS from BB10 via marketing so why should Verizon? Basically BlackBerry has put minimal effort to sell BB10 phones, and carriers are deciding it is better not to carry or push the devices than to carry and support them. BlackBerry needs to make, market, and push compelling devices, build share and the carriers will follow suit. When Apple, Samsung, HTC, and Microsoft are spending plenty and BlackBerry very little, or putting out effective advertising. Carriers are not charities, and are not required to carry or support phones.

    Posted with a BlackBerry Z10
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    07-01-14 04:00 PM
  15. Techno-Emigre's Avatar
    I don't have any direct knowledge, so this is all theory. I think BB ticked off Verizon when they were invited to launch a devise to answer AT&T's contract to sell iPhones. The whole thing was a fail (Storm I). It broke trust and probably cost Verizon money, while the iPhone took off like crazy. However, I thought it was a little hopeful that Verizon released 10.2 at the same time as the world-wide release. Maybe a baby step toward some trust. Either that or they had skipped the update previous to that so decided to go for it. Probably the thing I find most discouraging is sales people dissing or clueless about BB.
    07-01-14 04:55 PM
  16. sentimentGX4's Avatar
    Really... Casio, Delphi, Pantech, Kyocera are brands that consumers want to buy over BlackBerry... because this is what you are suggesting by not listing BlackBerry under brand. Also the OS listing is wrong. It should be BlackBerry OS 7 and BlackBerry 10
    Let's not get ahead of ourselves. I've never even heard of a Casio or Delphi smartphone; but, there are definitely a sizable number of Pantech and Kyocera users in the United States.

    The two are popular low end brands and it would not surprise me if they actually did sell more devices than Blackberry. Not only that, these two companies likely have an up-to-date lineup unlike Blackberry, which has failed to release any major device for a while.

    Yeah, these two brands likely put much less effort into advertising, R&D, etc. than Blackberry. But if Blackberry pushed a bunch of low end Androids, I'm confident it would have a place on the list as well. Once again, that Kyocera and Pantech are now prioritized over Blackberry highlights the bad business decisions the company made.
    Last edited by sentimentGX4; 07-01-14 at 05:31 PM.
    07-01-14 05:19 PM
  17. dbiv5445's Avatar
    BlackBerry is getting dissed by every American carrier including Verizon, the only one that agreed to carry the Z30, and made it almost impossible to get hands on experience before buying, by limiting the number of Z30's in store, and that's if they carried any at all. Spotting a Z30 in an actual Verizon retail store was like spotting a unicorn, the stuff of legend. It came as no surprise to me to learn that Blackberry is no longer listed in the brand list. BlackBerry has been getting dissed for some time now and I hope that JC can engineer/negotiate some type of deal with American carriers to make all upcoming BlackBerry devices available on every carrier website and in every carrier store.
    07-01-14 11:29 PM
  18. dbiv5445's Avatar
    Bull****. You didn't notice all those other brands that nobody knows about did you ? This counters your point completely about "cost"...

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    I call Bull**** also.
    07-01-14 11:34 PM
  19. bp3dots's Avatar
    I was on Verizon's site today and noticed that within the Smartphone category, Blackberry is no longer listed in the brand list. The BB phones are still showing, but without the name in the brand list, BB is slipping further from people's minds. Not good.
    I can't speak to what's on the site, but I can say that I've seen way more BB advertisements from Verizon than any other carrier or BB themselves. If anything, from what I've seen, they support BB the most.
    07-02-14 03:08 AM
  20. bp3dots's Avatar
    Really... Casio, Delphi, Pantech, Kyocera are brands that consumers want to buy over BlackBerry... because this is what you are suggesting by not listing BlackBerry under brand. Also the OS listing is wrong. It should be BlackBerry OS 7 and BlackBerry 10

    Z10STL100-3/10.2.1.3175
    Those "off brand" phones are consistent sellers, and all of them probably outselll BB at this point. (Frankly a few outsell most manufacturers) Casio in particular has a solid following with it's rugged phone series and Kyosera and Pantech make a lot of entry level smartphones and dumbphones that are always up there in sales. Not eveyone is buying GS5's or iPhones. The cheap stuff still sells the most, it just doesn't get the headlines.

    As for the OS listing, i doubt any of the OS's are separated by version. Thus the single category for both OS7 and BB10.
    07-02-14 03:12 AM

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