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  1. FMB8900's Avatar
    Hey, be nice kid! Didn't your mother tell you, when grown folks are talking shut your mouth! You kids never learn huh.

    Posted from my CrackBerry at wapforums.crackberry.com
    lol good one
    06-29-10 11:38 AM
  2. cdf3's Avatar
    ha! i lol'ed
    I forgot about SmrtGuard. I never used it on my Curve because the GPS chip was blocked by Verizon. I just downloaded it to my new Bold and it's awesome.
    06-29-10 11:39 AM
  3. FMB8900's Avatar


    The crying Troll.
    Posted from my CrackBerry at wapforums.crackberry.com
    probably my favorite post of all time...ha
    06-29-10 11:39 AM
  4. Radius's Avatar
    Somehow I've completely forgotten the point of this thread so I'll just say that I like my BB because it's EDGE and not 3G and also KY has many uses.

    I've seen the iPhone predictive text thingy but I like auto text most of all. It fixes my most common spelling mistakes as I go along.
    06-29-10 11:46 AM
  5. alby4ever's Avatar
    What BlackBerry offers to me as a casual consumer user compared to android and/or iOS? That's a long list
    The other OS's have features and hardware that leave me drooling, and I have left the "obsolete" Berry in the drawer for them several times, but I'm always back in black at the end of the day

    I'll cover some of my highlights, excluding third party apps except where noted:

    Profiles. Notification system settings are comprehensive to say the least. Add BerryBuzz and I know what came in by looking at the LED and I can set persistent reminders for important items.
    Bedside mode. I drop my Berry in the cradle and it shows a nice dim clock and switches to the phone only profile. Can set up however I like.

    Auto on/off. I've been caught away from a charger overnight a couple of times and this has been very handy.

    Autotext. User programmable, and available globally.

    Spell check. I can't spell Also available globally.

    Font settings. Size and style changes for those who don't like to squint.

    Outlook sync. Yeah, I have to plug in but BlackBerry syncs notes, tasks, calendar, and contacts very well.

    Password keeper. Built in, locks with its own password, random generator, easy copy and paste.

    Copy, cut and paste. Available globally, fast and easy.

    Download/attach any file type. Even if the Berry can't use it. Limited by size but at least its built in.

    Keyboard shortcuts. These make doing anything faster and they're everywhere!

    Security. I don't have BES so no remote wipe without a third party app. However, the built in encryption and password wipe are more than good enough for me

    Posted from my CrackBerry at wapforums.crackberry.com
    I like how blind BB loyalists have to dig this deep in order to find advantages for BBs over Android/iPhone. Does anybody really think these are killer features that will win over consumers when they step into a store? That was the point of Matt's thread. You guys should keep dreaming and ignore the reality that every other tech blog and news reports are talking about.

    Dream away.
    06-29-10 12:24 PM
  6. Radius's Avatar
    I like how blind BB loyalists have to dig this deep in order to find advantages for BBs over Android/iPhone. Does anybody really think these are killer features that will win over consumers when they step into a store? That was the point of Matt's thread. You guys should keep dreaming and ignore the reality that every other tech blog and news reports are talking about.

    Dream away.
    It's not just features, it's how they're implemented. Overall the BB is built for speed and ease of use. I have used a lot of phones and there is nothing faster or more simple for navigating between apps and sharing information. This is certainly a feature I look for.

    Being able to hit the browser, copy some text into an email and flying around 3 separate IM programs all at the click of one or two buttons is desirable. no confusing navigation and it takes less time on the BB than any other phone.

    So nothing truly unique here, just a very good implementation of standard features you can find on most phones.
    06-29-10 12:29 PM
  7. Cmaeda's Avatar
    I'm sorry, but I for one, do not need some justification or seek satisfaction for my purchases. PEOPLE for God's sake do some research on devices.. try a few, experiment.. The bb works for me.. it's quick, functional, and has great battery life. I gave android a go, it did not meet my needs. Now I am with bb, in the future something might come up that may meet my needs even better. I will not look back and say "maybe bb was better" that's living with uncertainty in my actions, I do no operate that way.
    06-29-10 12:48 PM
  8. Radius's Avatar
    I'm sorry, but I for one, do not need some justification or seek satisfaction for my purchases. PEOPLE for God's sake do some research on devices.. try a few, experiment.. The bb works for me.. it's quick, functional, and has great battery life. I gave android a go, it did not meet my needs. Now I am with bb, in the future something might come up that may meet my needs even better. I will not look back and say "maybe bb was better" that's living with uncertainty in my actions, I do no operate that way.
    If you don't need justification or anything then just ignore what goes on here. There's no point to arguing anything if your mind is made up and you are on your path.

    Defending an ideal is about as pointless as it gets. And there's a whole back story to that but hey, I'm not here for a philosophical debate. Just to stir the pot and see what happens.
    06-29-10 12:56 PM
  9. avt123's Avatar
    Really, did you even read any of the posts above? Let me tell you what you can't do: instant push email for 10 accounts, bbm which replaces sms and mms really, bbm groups with a shared calendar/files/photos lists etc, can't type on a physical qwerty, can't have many many shortcuts on the qwerty keyboard, can't have a light blink at you when you get a message, can't customize absolutely everything on it, can't remove battery, can't properly multitask with apps in the background doing their job not just on hold, can't remove memory and etc etc

    Posted from my CrackBerry at wapforums.crackberry.com
    First of all, everyone has to have BBM(a BlackBerry) for it to be effective. So if all your friends have BBM (not talking about business use here) then it is great. If not, then it is just another IM app, and every platform has SEVERAL of those.

    Lights blink on some Android phones, just not the iPhone. You can customize pretty much EVERYTHING on Android. Root and you can do even more. You can also remove the battery and properly multitask. And you can remove memory.

    Not everyone gives a **** about a physical keyboard, and most people in the world aren't important enough to need 10+ email accounts coming in instantly. Not all of us are CEOs.

    Maybe you should have directed this post at just iPhone users?
    Last edited by avt123; 06-29-10 at 01:02 PM.
    06-29-10 01:00 PM
  10. Matt_AC's Avatar
    I have to interject here. Some of this is just silly.

    can't have a light blink at you when you get a message
    My HTC Droid Incredible has an LED for notifications. It tells me plenty. Most software that have notification abilities allow you to toggle the LED.

    can't customize absolutely everything on it
    I can customize everything.

    can't remove battery
    I can remove my battery. Luckily, I don't have to (unlike the literally daily battery pulls that was required on my Storm 9530 to get it to even work).

    can't properly multitask with apps in the background doing their job not just on hold
    True multitasking is one of the strengths of the HTC Incredible. They are operating in the background as if they were brought up on my screen. Additionally, you do not have to close applications running in the background in order to free up processing strength, as the Droid OS manages this for you. This is opposed to BlackBerry, which requires you to switch applications and close them individually when the phone becomes sluggish.
    06-29-10 01:05 PM
  11. grover5's Avatar
    So what did you tell your client Matt?
    06-29-10 01:09 PM
  12. alby4ever's Avatar
    First of all, everyone has to have BBM(a BlackBerry) for it to be effective. So if all your friends have BBM (not talking about business use here) then it is great. If not, then it is just another IM app, and every platform has SEVERAL of those.
    Exactly. I had an issue with leaving BBM at first, but Google Talk on Android coupled with the fact that most people I know are on there, not to mention having unlimited SMS, made it a painless transition. Sometimes BBM felt like a closed world where you didn't really care to message those outside of it.

    BBM is losing its allure more and more as people leave BB's. It's a weak selling point nowadays at best.
    06-29-10 01:29 PM
  13. BigBadWulf's Avatar
    I have to interject here. Some of this is just silly.



    My HTC Droid Incredible has an LED for notifications. It tells me plenty. Most software that have notification abilities allow you to toggle the LED.



    I can customize everything.



    I can remove my battery. Luckily, I don't have to (unlike the literally daily battery pulls that was required on my Storm 9530 to get it to even work).



    True multitasking is one of the strengths of the HTC Incredible. They are operating in the background as if they were brought up on my screen. Additionally, you do not have to close applications running in the background in order to free up processing strength, as the Droid OS manages this for you. This is opposed to BlackBerry, which requires you to switch applications and close them individually when the phone becomes sluggish.
    I currently have 27 apps open, without any issue. I think you need to use a neweer device, before making judgements.
    06-29-10 01:32 PM
  14. exelant's Avatar
    Most of the BlackBerry issues the android folks are talking about are based on old devices running older OS's.

    Posted from my CrackBerry at wapforums.crackberry.com
    06-29-10 01:56 PM
  15. noized77's Avatar
    I usually have 7 apps open at once on my BB tour and never need to close them down individually so I don't know what the guy above is talking about.

    Posted from my CrackBerry at wapforums.crackberry.com
    06-29-10 02:05 PM
  16. belfastdispatcher's Avatar
    I like how blind BB loyalists have to dig this deep in order to find advantages for BBs over Android/iPhone. Does anybody really think these are killer features that will win over consumers when they step into a store? That was the point of Matt's thread. You guys should keep dreaming and ignore the reality that every other tech blog and news reports are talking about.

    Dream away.
    Well, that's what the OP asked for. So what exactly are the advantages of Android over Blackberry? And please don't say "nice OS, just tell us what the Android can do and Blackberry can't.

    Posted from my CrackBerry at wapforums.crackberry.com
    06-29-10 02:25 PM
  17. stockandroidguy's Avatar
    its incredible how far cell phones have come
    06-29-10 02:27 PM
  18. disinhibited's Avatar
    First of all, everyone has to have BBM(a BlackBerry) for it to be effective. So if all your friends have BBM (not talking about business use here) then it is great. If not, then it is just another IM app, and every platform has SEVERAL of those.

    Lights blink on some Android phones, just not the iPhone. You can customize pretty much EVERYTHING on Android. Root and you can do even more. You can also remove the battery and properly multitask. And you can remove memory.

    Not everyone gives a **** about a physical keyboard, and most people in the world aren't important enough to need 10+ email accounts coming in instantly. Not all of us are CEOs.

    Maybe you should have directed this post at just iPhone users?
    I've got to admit, the major issue for BBM is to have lots of friends/coworkers with BBM. Otherwise, it's not so great. Too bad regular texting doesn't have the same notification of delivery/read/etc. features. And too bad it isn't an app for android and iPhone.
    06-29-10 02:35 PM
  19. Reed McLay's Avatar
    This past weekend illustrated one of BlackBerrys critical strengths.

    On Friday, there was an Earth quake of moderate magnitude centered in Southern Ontario. It was felt all through the densely populated Golden Horseshoe region.

    The news coverage included people desperately trying to contact family and love ones after shaking stopped and not being able to get through becasue the network was overloaded.

    In a natural or man made disaster, BlackBerry Messages will get through when all else has failed. That lesson was learned the hard way, but nearly all first responders carry BlackBerry now, because they can be counted on.
    06-29-10 02:56 PM
  20. belfastdispatcher's Avatar
    I disagree, if I would only have my wife on bbm it would be worth it. Unless something is urgent this is the way we communicate, if I'm with the kids I always take lots of photos and send them to her or vice versa. It was extremely useful and cheap to use when one of us was abroad. We also have a bbm group set up so we can have a shared calendar.

    BBM has saved us A LOT of money over the last few years.

    Posted from my CrackBerry at wapforums.crackberry.com
    06-29-10 02:57 PM
  21. Matt_AC's Avatar
    I currently have 27 apps open, without any issue. I think you need to use a neweer device, before making judgements.
    It was on a BlackBerry Storm 9530.
    06-29-10 03:08 PM
  22. Matt_AC's Avatar
    So what did you tell your client Matt?
    I'm just consulting. Their needs are basic. Considering the tooth-pulling required and the headaches that ensued after moving them from Windows XP with IE6 to Windows 7 with IE8, I will likely advise them to stick with BlackBerry, as it will be the least abrasive for all parties. They use PCs and hand-held devices because they have to, not because they want to.
    06-29-10 03:13 PM
  23. FMB8900's Avatar
    This past weekend illustrated one of BlackBerrys critical strengths.

    On Friday, there was an Earth quake of moderate magnitude centered in Southern Ontario. It was felt all through the densely populated Golden Horseshoe region.

    The news coverage included people desperately trying to contact family and love ones after shaking stopped and not being able to get through becasue the network was overloaded.

    In a natural or man made disaster, BlackBerry Messages will get through when all else has failed. That lesson was learned the hard way, but nearly all first responders carry BlackBerry now, because they can be counted on.

    yep!!!! just like Craig Johnston explained in his blogpost...

    In an Emergency, Why Cellular Data Is Better Than Voice
    06-29-10 03:51 PM
  24. FMB8900's Avatar
    Most of the BlackBerry issues the android folks are talking about are based on old devices running older OS's.

    Posted from my CrackBerry at wapforums.crackberry.com
    yeah I know, wth...
    06-29-10 03:51 PM
  25. BigBadWulf's Avatar
    It was on a BlackBerry Storm 9530.
    You've 20+% less processor speed, 30+% less RAM, and frankly, a Storm is a completely illogical business device.
    06-29-10 05:08 PM
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