07-13-14 06:00 AM
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  1. johnm137's Avatar
    I am not sure how people can still use Android phones after reading this post.

    How used Google smartphones cough up former owner’s personal data - The Globe and Mail
    lift likes this.
    07-12-14 11:25 PM
  2. Ment's Avatar
    Its just like desktop Windows. If you delete it only deletes the marker to the file. The solution is to encrypt your phone then initiate a factory reset before selling.
    ronfc likes this.
    07-12-14 11:28 PM
  3. Nigelbrown's Avatar
    Security wipe

    Posted via CB10
    07-12-14 11:33 PM
  4. lift's Avatar
    This does not surprise me. Android is the biggest piece of junk as far as phone operating systems go. It is nothing but a tracking device just so Google can make a profit off your data. It is insecure in many ways and has more holes than Swiss cheese. Now when people in good faith do a factory reset, the phone does not actually erase anything. It just deletes it which makes it easy to recover your data. Nice job Google. Another one of the thousand reasons I would never use or own an android device.
    Factory reset of any device should ERASE data from the device.
    07-12-14 11:39 PM
  5. notafanboy's Avatar
    This should be an eye opener. It's just not worth the risk using an android.

    Posted via CB10
    lift likes this.
    07-12-14 11:46 PM
  6. BruvvaPete's Avatar
    While this article specifies Android phones, the problem is not Android specific. This includes BlackBerry and anything that has a "hard drive". If you don't overwrite everything with junk, it's all recoverable regardless of which device you're using.

    @BruvvaPete :Channel: C0012176F. Live well
    07-12-14 11:47 PM
  7. Mo Cat's Avatar
    Another good reason not to use android. Android and iOS are NSA buddies and a lot of people are eating the poisonous candy.

    CB10 - Q10
    mas_quemex and lift like this.
    07-12-14 11:51 PM
  8. app_Developer's Avatar
    While this article specifies Android phones, the problem is not Android specific. This includes BlackBerry and anything that has a "hard drive". If you don't overwrite everything with junk, it's all recoverable regardless of which device you're using.

    @BruvvaPete :Channel: C0012176F. Live well
    Except that BlackBerry's secure wipe actually does securely wipe.

    To be fair, though, on Android you can enable full disk encryption, which would prevent the vulnerability discussed here. So if people are worried about this on android, you just need to turn that feature on.
    Melinium and TgeekB like this.
    07-12-14 11:52 PM
  9. BruvvaPete's Avatar
    Except that BlackBerry's secure wipe actually does securely wipe.

    To be fair, though, on Android you can enable full disk encryption, which would prevent the vulnerability discussed here. So if people are worried about this on android, you just need to turn that feature on.
    I agree. People just need to know what they're doing and be informed... but that's easier said than done. Most people don't care.

    @BruvvaPete :Channel: C0012176F. Live well
    07-12-14 11:55 PM
  10. slagman5's Avatar
    While this article specifies Android phones, the problem is not Android specific. This includes BlackBerry and anything that has a "hard drive". If you don't overwrite everything with junk, it's all recoverable regardless of which device you're using.

    @BruvvaPete :Channel: C0012176F. Live well
    Not true, as the US government has proved, all you need is a subpoena. That will erase any harddrive...
    robtanz and lift like this.
    07-12-14 11:56 PM
  11. BruvvaPete's Avatar
    Not true, as the US government has proved, all you need is a subpoena. That will erase any harddrive...
    Sorry. I don't understand your point

    @BruvvaPete :Channel: C0012176F. Live well
    07-13-14 12:00 AM
  12. Ment's Avatar
    If do backup is the backup encrypted by default for BB? If not you have the same issue on your desktop.
    07-13-14 12:04 AM
  13. Aljean Thein's Avatar
    Doesn't matter, android will continue to dominate the market

    Posted via CB10
    Melinium likes this.
    07-13-14 12:07 AM
  14. BruvvaPete's Avatar
    Doesn't matter, android will continue to dominate the market
    Posted via CB10
    Exactly.
    Like I said, people don't care.

    @BruvvaPete :Channel: C0012176F. Live well
    07-13-14 12:08 AM
  15. slagman5's Avatar
    Sorry. I don't understand your point

    @BruvvaPete :Channel: C0012176F. Live well
    Nevermind, it's nothing to do with phones, something to do with current events. Not your fault for not knowing, the media is playing ball with the government by not really making a big deal out of it... :-P
    07-13-14 12:11 AM
  16. katiepea's Avatar
    This thread should be re-titled. That isn't a data breach at all. That's how all storage devices work, unless you encrypt your info, a wipe or format only makes that space available, it can still mostly be recovered until it is written over. This has nothing to do with Android whatsoever.
    07-13-14 12:16 AM
  17. katiepea's Avatar
    Another good reason not to use android. Android and iOS are NSA buddies and a lot of people are eating the poisonous candy.

    CB10 - Q10
    I'd love to read your write up about how the NSA can't access BB information.
    shaleem likes this.
    07-13-14 12:17 AM
  18. Ment's Avatar
    This thread should be re-titled. That isn't a data breach at all. That's how all storage devices work, unless you encrypt your info, a wipe or format only makes that space available, it can still mostly be recovered until it is written over. This has nothing to do with Android whatsoever.
    Yes but it made the news cause its Android so let them play a little. Well actually it made the news cause a security company has an Android paid app they want to promote that solves the problem by overwriting user space.
    07-13-14 12:18 AM
  19. katiepea's Avatar
    Yes but it made the news cause its Android so let them play a little. Well actually it made the news cause a security company has an Android paid app they want to promote that solves the problem by overwriting user space.
    heh, right, but even that is useless. if you're going to sell an android phone all it takes is enabling encryption then wiping.
    app_Developer likes this.
    07-13-14 12:27 AM
  20. Ment's Avatar
    heh, right, but even that is useless. if you're going to sell an android phone all it takes is enabling encryption then wiping.
    People like things handed to them. Which is why an app that just sends people "Yo"s made it to the top of the IOS charts.
    07-13-14 12:38 AM
  21. BruvvaPete's Avatar
    People like things handed to them. Which is why an app that just sends people "Yo"s made it to the top of the IOS charts.
    That app is a pretty good indicator of people not giving a isht. It could have been sending their personal data to kingdom come and people wouldn't care.

    I really like having the ability to specify what an app has access to.

    @BruvvaPete :Channel: C0012176F. Live well
    07-13-14 12:46 AM
  22. katiepea's Avatar
    That app is a pretty good indicator of people not giving a isht. It could have been sending their personal data to kingdom come and people wouldn't care.

    I really like having the ability to specify what an app has access to.

    @BruvvaPete :Channel: C0012176F. Live well
    Agreed, but at the same time, people who would utilize that function are already going to be keenly aware of what they're installing in the first place. There are a lot of simple apps, like Snap, that need a lot of permissions to function properly, permissions that seem arbitrary but are in fact necessary. I'll take a trusted developer over permissions any day really, both if I can, but when you can't have both, the best bet is always to side with caution. Most times when people get into trouble they've done it to themselves.
    BruvvaPete likes this.
    07-13-14 01:05 AM
  23. qbx's Avatar
    I don't get it why people in here hate android so much. It's a simple sober OS with a lot of options, and is customizable.

    1.like google services and no hassles - use as it is.

    2.want to change looks/functions - install Xposed

    3.hate google - install cm, etc without gapps, and do whatever you feel like.

    4.Those who are saying pictures can be restored etc., mount your, do a full wipe with 35 passes (military grade) - This applies to your computers(PC, Laptops, etc.) as well, do it before selling them off!

    5.for 'app permissions'-
    http://www.xda-developers.com/androi...with-xprivacy/

    if you still complain, then nothing can help you.
    people need to learn about the products, before bashing them.

    when you are not given options, you hate it.
    when you are given options, yet you find a way to hate it.

    gone are those days when phones were used only as a tool. it's has a much wider scope now
    07-13-14 03:10 AM
  24. rojostae's Avatar
    The people who use BB phones are more IT savvy than people with iOS or Android thats why most people on these o/s systems dont know a pinch of what their phones are able to do nor are they interested. Its about what play stuff on the app market is the 'IN' thing. For what they actually use their phones for they could use on a lower end phone but market forces and peer pressure say you aint nothing without the supposedly all singing all dancing super dooper phone most which ya aint gonna use.
    damien kupuku likes this.
    07-13-14 05:11 AM
  25. cbvinh's Avatar
    For what they actually use their phones for they could use on a lower end phone but market forces and peer pressure say you aint nothing without the supposedly all singing all dancing super dooper phone most which ya aint gonna use.
    Of course, what you just said could apply to BlackBerry users when BlackBerry phones were popular...
    07-13-14 05:23 AM
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