Protect your privacy from NSA...without BlackBerry?
- Stumbled on this article, and found it rather preposterous and in some ways amusing (although I won't pretend to be surprised) that BlackBerry's name was not mention even once. I fully understand the company's current position in the market and all that, but it still seems to reach a level of slight desperation and mild denial to attempt speaking on privacy, protection from NSA breaches, & phone encryption, yet not even acknowledge BlackBerry's existence... But perhaps I'm alone in getting that vibe? Does anyone else have any opinions on it
How to stop NSA from snooping on you
+-keystroke queen-+11-29-14 08:17 PMLike 0 - If you feel confident the NSA can't eavesdrop on you, you either are using a string and two cans, or are in ignorant denial. Does not mean they are, or have any interest in, but could. Period11-29-14 09:52 PMLike 11
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But for the average BlackBerry out of the box, yeah, they're not going to have any problem.jojo beaconsfield likes this.11-29-14 10:11 PMLike 1 - Well, they're going to collect a large amount of data about you no matter what. A BlackBerry behind BES is pretty damn secure though. I think even the NSA would have a hard time stealing your nudies.
But for the average BlackBerry out of the box, yeah, they're not going to have any problem.TgeekB likes this.11-29-14 10:28 PMLike 1 - If you use trust no one encryption they can't get your data any more than anyone else can. They can still grab lots of metadata, but they are ultimately working with the same tools available to any other hackers, though just with a bigger budget
Posted via CB1011-29-14 10:43 PMLike 0 - Prem WatsAppCrackBerry Jester of JestersAnyone sure BlackBerry is totally immune against this?
http://www.salon.com/2014/11/16/goog...ecurity_state/
Very interesting read,
even if only half of it were true... :-)
? ? ? Zzzzwipetyped from The Maskport - Zzzzmoqin'.... ? ? ?11-29-14 10:53 PMLike 0 - I have said this a thousand times that anytime you are connected to the grid, you are vonerable to being hacked and/or having your personal data breached. Common sense and having good password management is the first step in insuring you data is safe.
If you honestly think you are safe from government agencies looking at your data, you are dead wrong and should look at history. The Germans thought their codes where safe in WWII, but the British had cracked them a year earlier.
Bottom line is that agencies like the NSA have the brightest minds and technology available to them that allows them to stay well ahead of any encryption technology available for typical consumer devices.
Posted via my lovely passport on T Mobile USA11-30-14 05:05 AMLike 3 - Anyone sure BlackBerry is totally immune against this?
Google?s secret NSA alliance: The terrifying deals between Silicon Valley and the security state - Salon.com
Very interesting read,
even if only half of it were true... :-)
? ? ? Zzzzwipetyped from The Maskport - Zzzzmoqin'.... ? ? ?Prem WatsApp likes this.11-30-14 05:54 AMLike 1 -
- The title of this article is total $%� and very misleading.
The main problem is that smartphones are perfect tools for mass surveillance.
Exporting these devices can undermine democracy and freedom in developing countries (and of course in western countries).
Is think it is totally okay, if we start to re-think the encryption for consumer devices.
There are pros and cons11-30-14 10:03 AMLike 0 - Stumbled on this article, and found it rather preposterous and in some ways amusing (although I won't pretend to be surprised) that BlackBerry's name was not mention even once. I fully understand the company's current position in the market and all that, but it still seems to reach a level of slight desperation and mild denial to attempt speaking on privacy, protection from NSA breaches, & phone encryption, yet not even acknowledge BlackBerry's existence... But perhaps I'm alone in getting that vibe? Does anyone else have any opinions on it
How to stop NSA from snooping on you
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I hope I stayed on point here.
? Z10riss89 likes this.11-30-14 06:53 PMLike 1 - For those upset about the OP's article not mentioning BlackBerry: If you could make a fact-based point #6 about BlackBerry, what would it be? I don't think that most people reading the article are going to purchase BES licenses for themselves and everyone they want to communicate with.riss89 likes this.11-30-14 08:54 PMLike 1
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You can take steps to avoid dragnet intelligence gathering, though and I think that is what most people focus on when they talk about electronic privacy. The NSA itself clearly believes communications security is possible against a determined state funded hostile agency, otherwise they wouldn't bother with their own cipher suites and comsec protocols and certifications, though.
it's important to take a realistic approach to all of this, if you become interesting and important enough your communications have a high likelihood of being intercepted, even if you only communicate courier bin Laden style but if you are protecting yourself from bored NSA analyst or facebook or Google employee it becomes reasonable to think you can protect yourself.12-01-14 01:22 AMLike 3 - If you honestly think you are safe from government agencies looking at your data, you are dead wrong and should look at history. The Germans thought their codes where safe in WWII, but the British had cracked them a year earlier.
Bottom line is that agencies like the NSA have the brightest minds and technology available to them that allows them to stay well ahead of any encryption technology available for typical consumer devices.
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Well regarded strong ciphers are probably safe from any possible (NSA or not) brute force or analytical attack and I actually think that while it is one of the most interesting topics, cipher strength should be put to bed as a topic we have to generally worry about when talking about personal communications security.mnc76 likes this.12-01-14 01:39 AMLike 1 - They don't have to brute force any BB10-related encryption for data in transit, they just grab it unencrypted off the wire at data centers and cable landing points worldwide. Better yet, they just present Google/Microsoft/Apple with a National Security Letter to give up all data on you.
If you really want proper security and not BlackBerry's half-baked smoke-and-mirrors stuff, you need strong encryption for data in transit, strong encryption for data at rest and obfuscated metadata so nobody knows who you're sending and receiving messages with.Troy Tiscareno likes this.12-01-14 11:56 AMLike 1 - They don't have to brute force any BB10-related encryption for data in transit, they just grab it unencrypted off the wire at data centers and cable landing points worldwide. Better yet, they just present Google/Microsoft/Apple with a National Security Letter to give up all data on you.
If you really want proper security and not BlackBerry's half-baked smoke-and-mirrors stuff, you need strong encryption for data in transit, strong encryption for data at rest and obfuscated metadata so nobody knows who you're sending and receiving messages with.
I think this conversation is more specific to BES and BBM Protected, which are not vulnerable to national security letters insofar as plaintext doesn't exist outside of the endpoints, as it should be.mnc76 likes this.12-01-14 12:04 PMLike 1 - Pure Google/Apple progaganda, after leaking problems to keep buying their devices. Maybe it isn't a certified method, just done by instinct, but try to use the "hipster" method: Use not-so-common communication services when trying to send important information. Besides, do not keep important things on devices, backup them on a HDD and (for safety measures) encrypt it.12-01-14 12:11 PMLike 0
- it doesn't matter what technical steps you take to protect your hotmail or gmail though if the american's spooks just grab what they want from tech companies servers where it is all stored in the first place though does it? It takes a lot of paranoia and more importantly effort to defeat even that, such as pgp and never store an un encrypted message, but that relies on everyone you know doing the same. Very unlikely that that is the case i've found unfortunately. These are not good times.blueberrymerry likes this.12-01-14 01:10 PMLike 1
- I'd much rather have endless debate about security than the situation we had a few years ago, in which everyone (wrongly) presumed they were completely secure if they were using BBM and in fact people shouted down at the mere suggestion that BBM was not completely secure (shouted down by people that don't know - literally - the first thing about cryptography).mornhavon and blueberrymerry like this.12-01-14 03:45 PMLike 2
- it doesn't matter what technical steps you take to protect your hotmail or gmail though if the american's spooks just grab what they want from tech companies servers where it is all stored in the first place though does it? It takes a lot of paranoia and more importantly effort to defeat even that, such as pgp and never store an un encrypted message, but that relies on everyone you know doing the same. Very unlikely that that is the case i've found unfortunately. These are not good times.
You are correct, I'd say, in that it is difficult to convince someone else to care as much about security as you do and if communication in a secure way takes any effort at all over the default insecure method they will fall back to the insecure method.
Even to people for whom security is important who are aware of risks (I'd like to consider myself one) will fall back to a more convenient communication system after a time. Even with other crypto-crazy friends we tend to end up just chatting over Hangouts, knowing how easily those messages could be read by either google or anyone able to provide google a subpoena. We use hangouts because we can easily move the conversation back and forth between mobile device and desktop, android and ios.
To really work, security has to be the default and be very easy to use, and imperfect as it is, this is why iMessage should get some credit, it is easy to use and it is the default.mnc76 likes this.12-01-14 03:52 PMLike 1 -
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