[John Yester]

I am copying this post by the admin and posting in up here since this gets most views thru the day. The reason why this is posted here, I have written down the number of threads created till now 2,835. Now they are common simple questions. But either they are in the wrong section or the answer could have been found very simply but search the forum. Some threads have been moved and some threads have been answered. Normally when someone asks a question on here, most of us search, find the link, then post it to the respective person.....

When asking a question regarding your device and you don't have it listed in your profile and not in your post, it doesn't help us much. When asking about a software question, try and give as much info as possible to your problem. Rather then posting "My phone is broke" or “This software is causing me problems, anyone else have problems"?

This doesn't help out much... Besides the Admin's and Mod's we have allot of respective and high end members on the forums here, and we should be happy they are volunteering there own time to help answer questions and give suggestions, but allot has been repetitive in the past few weeks, even months. And giving very broad questions and not including pertinent info to the topic. Also when people post after someone says use the search tool, or gives an answer to the question and says they could have found the answer by searching..... And they say why people always say to use the search... I never understood their reply, and I am not sure if they understood what they wrote either...... The point is the forum has tools at our disposal, we should use them.

Guys and Gals, I would not be posting this and writing my own descriptive opinion on the matter, but I love this place, it has taught me so much and I want to pass it on as well. But some times we all need a wake up call and pointed in the right direction.

So a little refresher course on the rules laid out for us most active members and also those new members joining the forums. But remember to keep our house clean, that's right this is our place to hang out! We have to help also keep in organized and also well respected.

Unfortunately this Rules/Guideline section is down at the bottom on the page and I bet most people, mostly new members have never read it. I don't recall back in the day when I joined that this was the first post that popped up for me to see and read. That may have changed. But if your interested in the forum, and you have been active on other forums, you should have the basics in forums Etiquette

*Anyone feel this should not be placed here, please understand the point at hand.

Respectfully,

Yester18

Crackberry Member


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[Crackberrykills]

Well done John. Thanks buddy.

[SevereDeceit]

Give everyone a little brush up...

[John Yester]

Well done John. Thanks buddy.

Give everyone a little brush up...

Thanks just hope people see it and it doesn't fall to the black hole of nothing... And the point gets across.

Again, Thanks and I hope you guys get what I mean....

[Duvi]

Not disagreeing, but I understand why a lot of people post brief descriptions of their problems. A majority of the time that's all they know. Most of the repetitive posts are from new users who may not know it matters what OS, what carrier, what device etc... they are using. Some users see Blackberries as blackberries and nothing more. Not Curves, Pearls, 88XXs so they say "My blackberry isn't connecting to my router" vs. "My 8800 isn't connecting to my router" The difference with the statements is that the 8800 is not capable of wifi. What I do notice is after asking all the questions to help clarify what the issue/concern is, I see their next post having a lot of these elements that is needed to resolve their issue more rapidly.

I really don't mind answering a question 20 times to a newbie or veteran as it promotes a good and friendly environment. Look at the other forums that frown upon the same questions being asked over and over. They don't have 360,000 + members all interacting in a very warm and welcoming atmosphere like CB.

I've hopped from forums to forums and have found my home here at Crackberry. So much that even though I have other devices (iPhones), I will continue to stay active not only because of my love for Crackberries, but the 360,000+ addicts that I can call friends. (I will never stop using Crackberries )

Great job posting the rules.

Cross/Double Posting
Please post to the MOST relevant forum. Double or cross forum posting or other attempts at flooding the forum with a stream of posts will be removed. If you find that you have posted in the incorrect forum, please contact a moderator to have it moved to the correct location.

This is one I wish was followed a bit more though. There are usually a couple of mods on. Shoot them a message to move it to the appropriate forums.

[Reparkable]

Maybe this thead should be stickied as a reminder for a while?

Posted from my CrackBerry at wapforums.crackberry.com

[3083joe]

Thanks we sometimes forget

[kvaughan]

Wow, you're getting alot of thanks... When I said something about this same issue I got nothing but a ripped *** from senior members...

[John Yester]

Wow, you're getting alot of thanks... When I said something about this same issue I got nothing but a ripped *** from senior members...

I see the thread you mentioned and I for one apologize, 1. I never saw it before. 2. I don't think they were ripping you a new one. Sounds more like they were just posting their opinion on the matter.

http://forums.crackberry.com/f2/help-50243/ Here is the thread.

But also the topic of the thread was very broad IMO. and the post you stated you would not feel inclined to click on the thread... I guess you could agree and disagree on that, but my mian point was on how the forums were being heavily used, allot of use that could have been prevented if Members new and old would read this, and the Main thread that has been here all along, Guideline and rules. Yes they are guidelines and sometimes they are not always followed to a T but I just have noticed allot more, and felt personally I had to make a statement on the matter, Yes I could have PM a mod or Admin, but why not have it come from a general member. I feel people will understand and communicate on the matter better since we are all in the same boat here and the message is not coming from the higher up's and slamming the gavel down.....


I by no means felt obligated to step on any admin or mod's toes. If I did I apologize. But I just wanted it to be a simple eye opener and make a standing point.

I hope you understand.

[distortedvortex]

Thank you. I don't think I ever really read the rules. It's all kinda common sense though so people should know..

One thing I have to point out is the search feature for the forums. I don't feel it does a great job on pinning down what your looking for. I did a search for a thread using the EXACT name of the thread and it was still on the second page of the search. Maybe it's just me though.

Thank you though.

[skullgame45]

Maybe this thead should be stickied as a reminder for a while?

Posted from my CrackBerry at wapforums.crackberry.com

I second that motion. This thread should be a sticky and possibly any new members should have to read this before they can actually post anything. I know its tough to moderate this, but maybe people will actually think about reading the rules if the thread is at the top instead of being passed up all the way at the bottom. I know when I first joined, I read the rules before I did anything.
Just my .02 cents

Posted from my CrackBerry at wapforums.crackberry.com

[John Yester]

I second that motion. This thread should be a sticky and possibly any new members should have to read this before they can actually post anything. I know its tough to moderate this, but maybe people will actually think about reading the rules if the thread is at the top instead of being passed up all the way at the bottom. I know when I first joined, I read the rules before I did anything.
Just my .02 cents

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Skullgame45,

Thanks for your response to this matter.

[Crackberrykills]

Thanks just hope people see it and it doesn't fall to the black hole of nothing... And the point gets across.

Again, Thanks and I hope you guys get what I mean....

Oh, indeed. No worries there.

[SevereDeceit]

Like i said earlier, i am glad this is being addressed. The past couple of months around here things are getting out of control. On the same token, I think the senior members need to work together and report issues that effect the forums, so we can have some kind system for when a mod is not around or doesn't see a problem right away and something hits the forums that shouldn't be there. There are lots of us Masters and Geniuses alike on the forums all the time, we need to keep an eye out as well and report issues to to the moderators...

[kvaughan]

I really don't mind answering a question 20 times to a newbie or veteran as it promotes a good and friendly environment.

I can't stress how much I completely disagree with that. The general society expects to be spoon fed and I for one will not support it. There's no reason someone can't click on search and see if their question has been asked/answered before they create a new thread.

EDIT: Found this image I thought depicts the mood of my post

[John Yester]

Okay I have to ask, where did you find that.


Atleast a little humor to the thread

[kvaughan]

Okay I have to ask, where did you find that.


Atleast a little humor to the thread

Googled "search before post" in images, first result

[John Yester]

ahh okay cool thanks...

[Sarcasm Detector]

Okay I have to ask, where did you find that.


Atleast a little humor to the thread

Googled "search before post" in images, first result

if i was an Irony Detector i would have popped a fuse

ok, i'll promise i'll try to be less mean. I blame the dark side for my evil ways... plus some people really deserve it.

[kvaughan]

if i was an Irony Detector i would have popped a fuse

LOL I thought the same thing but I'm always willing to help a brother firefighter from the North East

[jenaywins]

Valid points all around as usual, Yester. I agree, the posting rules are grossly neglected by several members lately...

Just be prepared, however, for some to take this thread as an attempt to kiss a*s and be the thread police. You know how some people always manage to misinterpret things..

[John Yester]

LOL I thought the same thing but I'm always willing to help a brother firefighter from the North East

lol I'm sorry, I would have even thought that would be on google, But now it's on Crackberry and can be found....


Thanks bro.

Valid points all around as usual, Yester. I agree, the posting rules are grossly neglected by several members lately...

Just be prepared, however, for some to take this thread as an attempt to kiss a*s and be the thread police. You know how some people always manage to misinterpret things..

Jenay,

People can say anything they want.... But it simply states at the bottom of the Rules what and will be done... So it's not like there were never told..... Thread police, I think not. I care to much about this place, I have left many other active forums and put my time in here more. I just want to try and help the place be more organized and simplified... I know we will always have others that don't care. But they will have to fight there own battles when the time comes.

Thanks for your reply and comments. Sometimes it's tough writing feeling down and posting them and not knowing how they will be taken, since they are my words and everyone thinks differently.

[SevereDeceit]

Valid points all around as usual, Yester. I agree, the posting rules are grossly neglected by several members lately...

Just be prepared, however, for some to take this thread as an attempt to kiss a*s and be the thread police. You know how some people always manage to misinterpret things..

I hear ya Jenay, on the other hand though those people usually get pointed out pretty quick around here...

[benzworm]

that comic was amazing!

[John Yester]

Just a daily bump if that's cool. It was falling into the bounds of the other pages....