- BlackBerry should watch Kodak VERY carefully over the next several months. Kodak filed for bankruptcy a while back but is now back in business and trying to make waves in the smartphone industry. It's latest phone is the ektra, a very camera-centric phone. Some pictures taken with the phone are online and they are gorgeous.
The key here is that Kodak is not making the phone but has licensed the brand and some IP to a UK company called Bullit. This is, I believe, the same company that made the nearly indestructible cat s60 phone for industry. In any event Kodak is following the same licensing path that BlackBerry wants to try. SO, kodak's reception by the marketplace should be something BlackBerry should monitor to gauge how BlackBerry may fare as well.
For that matter, Bullit may even be a worthwhile 3rd party company to make future BlackBerry pkb phones, as that company is not afraid to make some very unique looking devices. Just my thoughts.
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Kodak Ektra: The Android phone nobody will buy
Kodak's new Ektra smartphone would rather just be a camera - The Verge
It's a hipster phone.AidenSurvival and Dunt Dunt Dunt like this.10-20-16 08:14 PMLike 2 - What it IS is irrelevant, as opposed to what it represents. In other words, is there a viable market among smartphones for niche products made through brand licenses?
I have NO doubt this Kodak phone will sell, but will it be in sufficient Numbers to offer a sustainable source of income? How will BlackBerry fare in an analogous situation in Indonesia?
Sent from my BlackBerry Passport SE10-20-16 09:00 PMLike 0 - And Panasonic Lumix.
http://m.gsmarena.com/panasonic_lumi...a_cm1-6675.php
I have no idea why OP is spamming on all the forums about that Kodak.10-20-16 10:31 PMLike 0 - When a company files bankruptcy, a trustee is obligated to identify every possible asset that can be exploited - including an iconic brand name. Basically, the brand name goes to the highest bidder. All this means is that the Kodak brand was sold to the highest bidder that wouldn't damage the brand. It doesn't mean much else.10-20-16 10:55 PMLike 0
- When a company files bankruptcy, a trustee is obligated to identify every possible asset that can be exploited - including an iconic brand name. Basically, the brand name goes to the highest bidder. All this means is that the Kodak brand was sold to the highest bidder that wouldn't damage the brand. It doesn't mean much else.10-20-16 11:03 PMLike 0
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“Kodak enjoys unaided awareness and we've identified that Kodak is ultimately about creating - so this is why our intention is for it to become the world's leading maker brand.”
Read more at http://www.adnews.com.au/news/kodak-...V8Ga7HURLpi.99DrBoomBotz likes this.10-20-16 11:34 PMLike 1 - And Panasonic Lumix.
http://m.gsmarena.com/panasonic_lumi...a_cm1-6675.php
I have no idea why OP is spamming on all the forums about that Kodak.
That said, I'm going to watch the dtek60 closely. It has the specs to succeed, but the price, fair or not, will put off some potential buyers. Plus, the relative lack of marketing doesn't help. BlackBerry apparently delayed the release for some marketing ploy. Anyone see anything big ads yet? Something the general consumer might see, I mean, not some small article tucked away in a tech site only techies will visit.
Sent from my BlackBerry Passport SEgreatgretschsound likes this.10-20-16 11:34 PMLike 1 - The business model being making the most of the brand? Is that really a comeback story? The average customer won't realize this but anyone who even takes a cursory look at what Kodak is doing will quickly realize that they are just managing the licensing of the brand. Does that really make you want to buy a Kodak smartphone? Do you really want BlackBerry to treat its hardware brand the same way?Dunt Dunt Dunt likes this.10-20-16 11:46 PMLike 1
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- Because I'm a sucker for a feel-good comeback story, and if Kodak can do it, there's hope that BlackBerry will too! They are/were both in very similar boats, so to speak, and both are pursuing very similar business models at the present.
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Posted via CB1010-21-16 01:26 PMLike 0 - IMHO, not totally, Kodak got special imaging capability with camera - that is asset going to be used in AR and VR... wide angle still one of the challenges in hardware. high imaging quality could ease some of the processing requirements of AR/VR by zoom, or digital movement rather than take new life video image with rapid refreshing rate... to immersion yourself into the environment, it got a lot to go for it... as for how to use it fully, that is in app/designer's hands... I am glad BB dtek 60 and sony got nice camera... can't wait to see how it would be used at demo...10-21-16 01:58 PMLike 0
- IMHO, not totally, Kodak got special imaging capability with camera - that is asset going to be used in AR and VR... wide angle still one of the challenges in hardware. high imaging quality could ease some of the processing requirements of AR/VR by zoom, or digital movement rather than take new life video image with rapid refreshing rate... to immersion yourself into the environment, it got a lot to go for it... as for how to use it fully, that is in app/designer's hands... I am glad BB dtek 60 and sony got nice camera... can't wait to see how it would be used at demo...10-21-16 02:05 PMLike 0
- Nothing wrong with niche phones, which is exactly what the Kodak phone aims to be anyway. Best of luck, I'd say. I might bite if the mercury isn't out by then. No rush, at any rate, because the Ektra will not be available in north America until 2017.
Sent from my BlackBerry Passport SE10-21-16 02:15 PMLike 0 - While Kodak pioneered digital imaging.... and they hold a NUMBER of patents and technology that many still be in use and highly valuable. That doesn't translate to a KODAK phone selling well. One reason they got in this mess, is their digital cameras where not all that good. To be honest I think it had more to do with their software and processing of the images... that and the pricing.10-21-16 02:16 PMLike 0
- Prem WatsAppCrackBerry Jester of JestersBecause I'm a sucker for a feel-good comeback story, and if Kodak can do it, there's hope that BlackBerry will too! They are/were both in very similar boats, so to speak, and both are pursuing very similar business models at the present.
That said, I'm going to watch the dtek60 closely. It has the specs to succeed, but the price, fair or not, will put off some potential buyers. Plus, the relative lack of marketing doesn't help. BlackBerry apparently delayed the release for some marketing ploy. Anyone see anything big ads yet? Something the general consumer might see, I mean, not some small article tucked away in a tech site only techies will visit.
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The Nokia Lumia 1020 from the same year used high rez+digital zoom to make a slimmer phone which the market adopted as a better approach and its still a highly rated camera for a smartphone, just below todays flagships.
Last edited by Ment; 10-21-16 at 02:57 PM.
10-21-16 02:47 PMLike 0 - They are not trying to make the best available cameraphone. They are making a retro-themed phone with above-average - not outstanding - photo capabilities. It really is not fair to compare it with past efforts to sell photography first phones. I wish them the best of luck. It is hard to differentiate a smartphone from the rest in today's market.10-21-16 03:56 PMLike 0
- Bla1zeCB OGBlackBerry should watch Kodak VERY carefully over the next several months. Kodak filed for bankruptcy a while back but is now back in business and trying to make waves in the smartphone industry. It's latest phone is the ektra, a very camera-centric phone. Some pictures taken with the phone are online and they are gorgeous.
The key here is that Kodak is not making the phone but has licensed the brand and some IP to a UK company called Bullit. This is, I believe, the same company that made the nearly indestructible cat s60 phone for industry. In any event Kodak is following the same licensing path that BlackBerry wants to try. SO, kodak's reception by the marketplace should be something BlackBerry should monitor to gauge how BlackBerry may fare as well.
For that matter, Bullit may even be a worthwhile 3rd party company to make future BlackBerry pkb phones, as that company is not afraid to make some very unique looking devices. Just my thoughts.
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As a case study how NOT to do licensing.10-21-16 06:03 PMLike 3 - BlackBerry should watch Kodak VERY carefully over the next several months. Kodak filed for bankruptcy a while back but is now back in business and trying to make waves in the smartphone industry. It's latest phone is the ektra, a very camera-centric phone. Some pictures taken with the phone are online and they are gorgeous.
The key here is that Kodak is not making the phone but has licensed the brand and some IP to a UK company called Bullit. This is, I believe, the same company that made the nearly indestructible cat s60 phone for industry. In any event Kodak is following the same licensing path that BlackBerry wants to try. SO, kodak's reception by the marketplace should be something BlackBerry should monitor to gauge how BlackBerry may fare as well.
For that matter, Bullit may even be a worthwhile 3rd party company to make future BlackBerry pkb phones, as that company is not afraid to make some very unique looking devices. Just my thoughts.
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