1. barrist's Avatar
    so looks like there's no led on the thing after all, but rather the corner of the screen lights up colours for notifications

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    also gps, and 6 axis magnetometer confirmed! 30-40 second reboot (but supposedly faster in newer builds)
    Last edited by barrist; 03-02-11 at 05:21 AM.
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    03-02-11 05:18 AM
  2. Jean-luc_Picard's Avatar
    rebooting will be far and in between since app installs do not require a reboot and potentially OS updates also do not require a reboot due to how QNX works.
    This interests me a lot... How do you update the OS with the OS running the entire time?

    Luckily the issue of whether or not you can set things to stop running in the background has been addressed, many people wanted that information.

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    03-02-11 10:11 AM
  3. Steve Rizla's Avatar
    This interests me a lot... How do you update the OS with the OS running the entire time?

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    It all depends on what part of the OS is being updated. If Windows can do it, QNX can do it, lol.
    03-02-11 10:31 AM
  4. 1812dave's Avatar
    It all depends on what part of the OS is being updated. If Windows can do it, QNX can do it, lol.
    PART of the updating occurs while Windows is running, but then you have to reboot, and depending on the updates, you may be cooling your heels for a while waiting to get back to the desktop, as windows finishes installing the updates. AAMOF, during the shutdown process, there sometimes will be a "configuring updates" message as files get replaced.
    03-02-11 11:17 AM
  5. Steve Rizla's Avatar
    PART of the updating occurs while Windows is running, but then you have to reboot, and depending on the updates, you may be cooling your heels for a while waiting to get back to the desktop, as windows finishes installing the updates. AAMOF, during the shutdown process, there sometimes will be a "configuring updates" message as files get replaced.
    Like I said earlier, it all depends on what part of the OS is being updated.

    If the OS update is a major one affecting the file system or some other critical feature it would require a reboot but if it is a small change to a configuration file which handles environment variables or in the case of this thread (the colour of the notification area) or something equally trivial it wouldn't require a reboot.

    Not all Windows updates require a reboot.
    03-02-11 11:53 AM
  6. luvac1's Avatar
    Wow, I really like how they did that notification light and I was also wondering about how the screen locks and unlocks. Thanks for the info!
    03-02-11 11:58 AM
  7. barrist's Avatar
    to me it looks like there's a led embedded in the corner there. otherwise, lighting up the screen for notifications is a bit of a battery hog no?
    03-02-11 12:00 PM
  8. grreyes24's Avatar
    I remember Kevin saying on the CES podcast that there is a 1sh pixel border between the bezel and the rest of the screen that could be used for notifications and stuff. So technically it is part of the screen, but its not in use. Also if it borders the entire screen, I can see that being opened up for use on a lot of different things.
    03-02-11 12:05 PM
  9. barrist's Avatar
    I remember Kevin saying on the CES podcast that there is a 1sh pixel border between the bezel and the rest of the screen that could be used for notifications and stuff. So technically it is part of the screen, but its not in use. Also if it borders the entire screen, I can see that being opened up for use on a lot of different things.

    good point. it would also allow for notifications in all the corners since you can change the orientation any which way and it should orient itself correctly. neat!

    berrybuzz for playbook anyone? lol.
    03-02-11 12:16 PM
  10. drjay868's Avatar
    Will that corner light up if the screen has timed out and is dark, or if in hibernation/locked mode?
    03-02-11 12:44 PM
  11. dsquared2's Avatar
    Will that corner light up if the screen has timed out and is dark, or if in hibernation/locked mode?
    I hope so, that's be nice
    03-02-11 12:45 PM
  12. drjay868's Avatar
    good point. it would also allow for notifications in all the corners since you can change the orientation any which way and it should orient itself correctly. neat!

    berrybuzz for playbook anyone? lol.
    That brings up a cool idea.... Top left corner notification for text messages, top right for emails, bottom left for facebook, and bottom right for twitter... or however you happen to set up your personal PB!

    Edit: or different colors.
    03-02-11 12:45 PM
  13. dwadwa's Avatar
    That brings up a cool idea.... Top left corner notification for text messages, top right for emails, bottom left for facebook, and bottom right for twitter... or however you happen to set up your personal PB!

    Edit: or different colors.
    4 corners?

    Guess it would be pretty hard to remember what's for what.
    03-02-11 04:11 PM
  14. drjay868's Avatar
    4 corners?

    Guess it would be pretty hard to remember what's for what.
    Or what orientation you had the PB in last. Probably have to do each corner with a different color to be usefull.
    03-02-11 05:04 PM
  15. dkingsf's Avatar
    Or what orientation you had the PB in last. Probably have to do each corner with a different color to be usefull.
    If you're gonna do that, might as well just use one corner and can have alternating colors for multiple notifications to make it simpler. IMO.

    If that 1px inside the bezel goes around the whole screen there would be some good uses. GPS my boss's BB and when he comes within 30 feet it can start flashing red, so I can shut down my porn surfing or vid. LMAO.
    Last edited by dkingsf; 03-03-11 at 07:43 AM.
    03-03-11 07:41 AM
  16. A.C's Avatar
    I remember Kevin saying on the CES podcast that there is a 1sh pixel border between the bezel and the rest of the screen that could be used for notifications and stuff. So technically it is part of the screen, but its not in use. Also if it borders the entire screen, I can see that being opened up for use on a lot of different things.
    Just posted this is another thread but thought it might be relevant here too ( iPad 2 what we didnt get! | TiPb), it seems that the 1 pixel border is a detection border for the gestures and Apple actually owns the patents for bezels and touch sensitive casings.
    If this is true, that it is a detection border, it would make sense that the notifications are kept in the corners (where you would be less likely to touch). However, in previous videos we did see the keyboard being launched from a corner swipe (bottom left) which may mean only 3 left for notifications?
    03-03-11 07:54 AM
  17. dkingsf's Avatar
    Just posted this is another thread but thought it might be relevant here too ( iPad 2 what we didnt get! | TiPb), it seems that the 1 pixel border is a detection border for the gestures and Apple actually owns the patents for bezels and touch sensitive casings.
    If this is true, that it is a detection border, it would make sense that the notifications are kept in the corners (where you would be less likely to touch). However, in previous videos we did see the keyboard being launched from a corner swipe (bottom left) which may mean only 3 left for notifications?
    If the PB is rotated right 90 degrees the bottom left becomes the top right. Then what?
    03-03-11 09:42 AM
  18. A.C's Avatar
    DK - I think, (and the only confirmation of this I can find at the moment is a video of what looks to be an SDK about 0.22), is that the bezel gestures are dynamic and adjust to the orientation of the device which would still leave 3 corners free for notifications.
    I'm sure I remember seeing this actually working on the physical device but can't find the video.
    03-03-11 10:13 AM
  19. drjay868's Avatar
    If you're gonna do that, might as well just use one corner and can have alternating colors for multiple notifications to make it simpler. IMO.

    If that 1px inside the bezel goes around the whole screen there would be some good uses. GPS my boss's BB and when he comes within 30 feet it can start flashing red, so I can shut down my porn surfing or vid. LMAO.
    HA HA HA! Maybe even have the direction he's coming from correspond to the corner that lights up. Wouldn't want him sneaking up behind you!

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    03-03-11 10:24 AM
  20. drjay868's Avatar
    Why couldn't the corners show different colors for noticications and still recognize gestures?

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    03-03-11 10:26 AM
  21. BBThemes's Avatar
    If the PB is rotated right 90 degrees the bottom left becomes the top right. Then what?
    the bottom left will always be in relation to the screen content, so its not held to any one way of holding, kinda like on the torch you can have landscape in both left and right orientations but bottom left is always the bottom left as you view it
    03-03-11 10:30 AM
  22. Intosh's Avatar
    Nice!

    These are very good news. Good to see RIM implementing some cool ideas and paying attention to details.
    03-03-11 10:31 AM
  23. A.C's Avatar
    DrJ - No reason at all as far as I know (although I'm not a developer so don't know the technical limitations of the touch screen interface).
    I was suggesting that if there where limitations (i.e. only one or the other) that there may only be 3 corners to utilise for notifications, due to the keyboard display gesture.
    03-03-11 10:37 AM
  24. drjay868's Avatar
    DrJ - No reason at all as far as I know (although I'm not a developer so don't know the technical limitations of the touch screen interface).
    I was suggesting that if there where limitations (i.e. only one or the other) that there may only be 3 corners to utilise for notifications, due to the keyboard display gesture.
    I got ya now. It does make sense.

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    03-03-11 10:39 AM
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