If no KEY3, what will you get?
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I bet he's using an iPhone 11 Pro Max, and not even with a BB wallpaper.11-14-19 02:15 PMLike 3 - Not really as I’m being partially facetious. I don’t really expect that he’s really using a Key2 or other BB licensed device. Android/iOS was already out 5-6 years when he joined the company. BBAndroid came out two years after that. John Chen runs a company that primary remaining mobile business is securing, through UEM solutions, Android/iOS flagship devices globally. I would expect he uses whatever he likes under that security blanket since his customers expect the cook to eat their prepared meals.joshualebowitz likes this.11-14-19 02:45 PMLike 1
- I think you might be shocked as to what our ranking members here use?!? Or even what Chen and CrackBerry Kevin's daily driver is! I guarantee the majority are not daily driving a BlackBerry! Let the denials begin!John Albert and elfabio80 like this.11-14-19 03:59 PMLike 2
- I’ve dual carried for 13 years. Even now just having dual eSIM XR , I still carry a KEYone as WiFi only. Many here moved on when BB moved to Android with PRIV, outsourced DTEK with TCL and finally exited to BB licensing. There’s a reason BB only has .00001 share outside Canada where it’s .001 in the populace. My kids say it’s a solid 1% in the over 40+ crowd.11-14-19 04:14 PMLike 0
- If I was looking for a Camaro ZL1 and the owner of the dealership was driving a Shelby, well, let's just say that my perception of the product would change!11-14-19 05:04 PMLike 0
- I agree but John Chen’s BlackBerry company, largest products are the Android/iOS OEMs that aren’t from BBMo and think about that. His clients are the enterprise companies that purchase QNX and UEM solutions. I would expect him to drive something comprised of the most QNX underpinned components and show off those brands. Same thing with the OEMs that paid the largest IP sources. I’m are Cylance biggest enterprise users or largest Android customer.11-14-19 05:34 PMLike 0
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I so badly want this phone but at $1,500 USD and with those specs, I'd rather wait for the next generation.Tim-ANC likes this.11-14-19 08:00 PMLike 1 - I'm with you! The new Razr doesn't even have a SIM tray so required an eSIM. I don't even know if Rogers or Bell offer that up here in Canada. Any of my fellow canucks have any experience with that?
I so badly want this phone but at $1,500 USD and with those specs, I'd rather wait for the next generation.
It does look more durable than the Galaxy Fold, though.11-14-19 09:21 PMLike 0 -
https://communityforums.rogers.com/t...XR/td-p/443275
https://support.bell.ca/mobility/sma...t?step=2#step2
When I last checked (a month ago), Rogers will only provide eSim for new activations on a BYOD plan for consumers OR if you wish to jump through hoops, transfer you from physical sim to eSim for BYOD business customers. Even then, only some (34) Rogers locations are theoretically euipped to handle the operation. Of those locations, some staff seem unwilling or unable to make it work. And, only 2018/19 iPhones and Pixels are eligible. And, none of Rogers staff in Toronto locations seem to be able to answer when asked about transferring the eSim to a new phone next year -- seems no one has thought that far ahead.
Bell is slightly better. Both business customers and consumers can get eSim service, though only as BYOD. Again, only 2018/19 iPhones and Pixels (on Android 10). Theoretically, you can transfer a physical sim number to an eSim. All locations are supposed to be able to do it, but I've had difficulty finding Toronto staff that seem knowledgeable about the process. And as with Rogers, no one can answer me about what will happen when moving an eSim number to a new device.
Maybe next year...11-14-19 10:01 PMLike 0 - I'd have to see some real world usage, but I think if the outer display is good enough to check notifications and some other simple tasks, then maybe the battery would be enough for the day. Personally, I don't do a lot of media or social networking stuff on my phone, so I don't think the full screen would get a TON of use. Other than flipping it open and closed 1000 times a day to show people.11-14-19 11:00 PMLike 0
- Both Rogers and Bell "support" eSim, though in a limited fashion.
https://communityforums.rogers.com/t...XR/td-p/443275
https://support.bell.ca/mobility/sma...t?step=2#step2
When I last checked (a month ago), Rogers will only provide eSim for new activations on a BYOD plan for consumers OR if you wish to jump through hoops, transfer you from physical sim to eSim for BYOD business customers. Even then, only some (34) Rogers locations are theoretically euipped to handle the operation. Of those locations, some staff seem unwilling or unable to make it work. And, only 2018/19 iPhones and Pixels are eligible. And, none of Rogers staff in Toronto locations seem to be able to answer when asked about transferring the eSim to a new phone next year -- seems no one has thought that far ahead.
Bell is slightly better. Both business customers and consumers can get eSim service, though only as BYOD. Again, only 2018/19 iPhones and Pixels (on Android 10). Theoretically, you can transfer a physical sim number to an eSim. All locations are supposed to be able to do it, but I've had difficulty finding Toronto staff that seem knowledgeable about the process. And as with Rogers, no one can answer me about what will happen when moving an eSim number to a new device.
Maybe next year...
I'd like to keep with a dual SIM phone but that certainly wouldn't work in the Razr's case. I've been eyeing the S10 or S10e dual international variants (I like the S10e for its compact size but prefer the S10's camera... decisions, decisions!) and they may be serious contenders for my next phone. With S11s just around the corner, I may be able to scoop the S10(e) for a steal!11-15-19 05:22 AMLike 0 - I just wonder how that crease in the display will really hold up. I never like to buy the first model year car and I will be watching from the benches to see how this unfolds.
Get it? Ha ha ha!!
Hammered out on my Precious Passportanon(5597702) likes this.11-15-19 05:48 AMLike 1 - I could just as easily challenge you to prove the opposite. That's not what I said.
My point is that there is zero proof that workers with mobile phones post 2007 are more productive than those without. Whatever the benefits of smartphones since the iPhone, increased productivity at work is not one of them.
From the screen of my trusty Z10 using the exceptional BlackBerry VKB.11-15-19 06:41 AMLike 3 - 11-15-19 06:42 AMLike 1
- Just observing co-workers at work nowadays and compare them to 2011-2015. Then they were all busy answering email and bbm. Now they are busy with chats with family and friends on wa snapshat insta whatever, playing games and sometimes something work related. No hard statistics, just a personal observation.joshualebowitz likes this.11-15-19 08:04 AMLike 1
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- I think Nano sim should be the last thing. I really hate E-sim and it is very inconvenient. What if I have trips to different countries and want to easily switch between my sim cards?11-15-19 01:27 PMLike 0
- Maybe they could come up with an eSIM system where you manually enter your eSIM number and say a 4 digit passcode and then the device would immediately be activated as if you popped your physical sim in there.11-15-19 01:52 PMLike 0
- Just observing co-workers at work nowadays and compare them to 2011-2015. Then they were all busy answering email and bbm. Now they are busy with chats with family and friends on wa snapshat insta whatever, playing games and sometimes something work related. No hard statistics, just a personal observation.11-15-19 02:10 PMLike 0
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This needs carrier work on implementing eSIM adaption mechanism, which could be possible in countries like USA or Canada, but not in the rest of the world.
So when I travel to Europe for example, I will still have the same issue.11-15-19 02:29 PMLike 0 - Still have my classic (only this device which i'm using now ), and now a Q5 since my passport suffered a cellular modem suicide, which is pretty randomly common. Q5 had a battery swap, so it lasts 8-12 hours depending. Classic needs it REAL SOON, then it'll be a fine basic web browsing, fine e-mail device, nothing more.
Typed on my blackberry classic with 10.3.3-latest on freedom mobile HSPA+11-17-19 01:03 AMLike 0 - I'm with you! The new Razr doesn't even have a SIM tray so required an eSIM. I don't even know if Rogers or Bell offer that up here in Canada. Any of my fellow canucks have any experience with that?
I so badly want this phone but at $1,500 USD and with those specs, I'd rather wait for the next generation.11-17-19 11:50 AMLike 0
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