So is the only utility you have for a smartphone sending email?
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So is the only utility you have for a smartphone sending email?
I have to agree with you, watches are nice as a marvelous time piece but as a notification display to constantly grab your attention more than the Phone in your pocket I think is ridiculous but that is my opinion. Also I really do not want another device to charge or worry about.
If I'm having lunch with someone who keeps looking at their wrist then they don't want to be there and that lunch is over. Same goes for any discussions and so on. I don't need to be endlessly tied to the Google machine or be told that because of my laziness to go to the gym that I have stepped enough that day at work or other. One reason I like the Passport is it handles all my communication very well and if I really want to check social media, I can.
Apps for communication, signal, Telegram, Telegram X (alternate account), Whatsapp, text, email, messenger (FB) and phone calls. Oh did I forget BBM lol. Ya it works too. The LED on my phone will Let me know if anything of importance arises.
I'd say my Passport works just fine for 2019 ;)
Hammered out on my Precious Passport
Being able to identify a person who is in trouble, heart or other health issues early is not something I’d call marginal, but that’s just me I guess. [emoji1]
Either way it’s the future.
Exactly. If I wore an I watch, I would just turn all the notifications off so as not to interrupt my work, meetings, etc. Then, in between tasks and meetings, when I want to look at it, I could just as easily pick up my phone. I don't see any value in a device that separates the notifications from the tools needed to respond. For my purposes, there are no functions on a smart watch that I don't already have on my phone, so its redundant. It's also an uncomfortable nuisance for me, as I don't enjoy wearing jewelry, including watches.
From the screen of my trusty Z10 using the exceptional BlackBerry VKB.
I believe they have many other options in the way of medical devices for a third of the cost.
Hammered out on my Precious Passport
Not as convenient or versatile as a smart watch though. Recently the fall detection on the Apple Watch saved the lives of hikers who fell down a cliff after getting lost. The watch detected the fall and activated the emergency alert that alerts authorities. This is huge for places such as old age homes and the elderly, as well as anyone who is active....heck, you get into a car accident and your watch senses the great amount of G-forces exerted on your body and within seconds it can alert the authorities of your exact location and of your condition in real-time, helping them better prepare to treat you when they get to the scene.
I mean life saving is not at all marginal, but that’s just my opinion. [emoji2375][emoji1787]
The possibilities are endless with wearables, particularly smart watches.
I can’t think of another device that can be as helpful in such a wide variety of situations than a smart watch, even your phone can’t help you in some situations as it is not tethered to you.
That's 80% of the value, yes. Other important functions include Web browsing, reading eBooks, and listening to podcasts and music with wired headphones. A smart watch doesn't help with any of those. Even for very occasional functions like using rideshare services, I don't see how a watch would improve the experience. To me it's a solution in search of a problem.
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But has a notification LED ever saved a life?
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We could say this about everything us humans do really [emoji1787]
[emoji23] the notification light matters more than the phone, don’t you know? You can take my phone but not my notification light!
There are tons of useful things a smart watch does (notifications, secure pay, walking navigation, etc) but since you don't use your phone like 95% of the world I see how it's not useful to you. They can be useful for almost anyone else. I guess you've just been left behind which is, I suppose, no surprise on this site.
That's a very broad statement. The future for what? For whom?
About 3-5% of US consumers currently own a smart watch (and another 10-15% own a fitness band). About half of smart watch owners wear their devices daily.
Wearables for people with life-threatening health conditions to monitor their vitals is a great solution, and I'm certain we'll see more of that. But wearables for healthy people obsessed with monitoring their health data is just a very profitable market niche. There is no indication that the average person wants a smart watch.
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You don’t seem to understand the fact that it’s not just about people wanting them, there are so many areas a smart watch covers that they could outstrip smartphones in sales over the next few years, simply due to new important functions being added to them from ECG, Fall Detection, Child Safety, Emergency alerts etc... With it being a product that tethers to you, it’s a whole new level of personalization that I doubt anyone can currently comprehend. This is a device that is literally on you longer than your smartphone is in your hand, do you get that at least? [emoji1787]
Stop limiting yourself to what you think people want. Most people didn’t want a smartphone before 2007, most people didn’t want 3G, video on their phone or GPS in the year 2000.
What is also incredible is how quickly the Smart Watch tech is progressing with more efficient chips, Display technologies that allow AOD with minimal power draw, more sensors that will give way to even more advancements in all industries from fitness, medical, financial etc.... The likes of Apple, Samsung, Garmin, Fitbit etc... are just getting started. [emoji16]
That’s simply because the other 80-87% don’t want to be reminded how unhealthy they really are........
OnePlus was the only handset that took me away from my KeyOne. Couldn't take it anymore and with no phone beyond a key2 looming, I had to get on with life. Sad as it is, BlackBerry made their bed, still to this day they cannot do any marketing. Their Android PIM apps are awesome, but do they even advertise those? Nope. They won't be around for long.
How much actual economic resources should BlackBerry Mobile spend building another company’s brand? How much actual economic resources should BlackBerry Limited spend repairing their mobile brand since the company exited the business three years ago. The problem for BlackBerry Limited was very simple, nobody wanted PKBs anymore. Most people thought BlackBerry Limited went bankrupt and died years ago.
All that being said, BlackBerry Limited doesn’t have the economic resources to be in the mobile space like many larger OEMs that left before or after BlackBerry Limited three years ago. BlackBerry Mobile’s parent company has the economic resources but like similar competitors such as LG or different Industrial Electronics Conglomerates and such, it will spend the money on it’s own brands that it owns like TCL or Palm that aren’t toxic and owned by someone else.
This is bull. BlackBerry failed because they never marketed anything they made. Their arrogance killed them, not the market. Everyone who saw my physical keyboard blackberry wants to know where I got it and how they can get one. it's not about the fact that everybody wanted touch screens but rather they didn't know how to get a blackberry anymore. blackberry failed to work out deals with carriers that featured their handsets prominently and all their stores and consumers basically thought that blackberry went out of business. It wasn't about how much they needed to spend to compete in the smartphone market, John Chen threw in the towel and killed the handset market himself.
What part is bull? The company is publicly traded and their financial statements are matter of public filings and records immortalized within government regulatory agencies in multiple countries for your future grandchildren’s children to review. The carriers demanded the same economic commitments from BlackBerry as from competitor OEMs to be sales partners. BlackBerry never had those economic resources before and with BB10 killing BBOS monthly BIS revenues starting in 2013, what do you think killed BlackBerry then. It’s why the company was put up for sale and Chen hires. All of this is public information.
BlackBerry Limited wouldn’t even be here if not for the emergency loan from Prem Watsa and his Fairfax company that insisted on the hiring of Chen to save BlackBerry Limited as publicly traded company. If not for successfully exiting mobile business while extracting BB10 revenues to limit component losses and licensingBBM and BBAndroid to outside companies, black wouldn’t exist. Pretty good since the original BlackBerry never intended to be in the consumer hardware business from the very beginning.
We aren't arguing the financial result of the company's failures. We apparently disagree on how they got there. I say it was bad business and lack of marketing of superior technology, you blame the market. I call BS on the blaming the market as there is plenty of interest in the market for a more secure and pkb phone. If nobody knows it exists, that isn't the markets fault!
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Then again, if they don't wish to change their behavior, what good would knowing do them anyway!
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You're absolutely right. Although I love playing with new tech and enjoy the fact that my work in the company I founded allows me to buy many cool gadgets for testing, I am very deliberately "behind" in using much of that tech in my personal life. I am one of those tech execs who tries to minimize my threat surface by using the absolute minimum technology I need to accomplish my goals.
I'll use my bike commute as an example. I bike approximately 30 miles a day round trip to work four days a week. I don't use any mapping service, location trackers or fitness trackers. I have no idea what my cadence, heart rate, or speed are when I ride, though I occasionally check the time. I don't know how many miles I ride per year.
I don't need to know any of those things because that information would not improve the quality of my life in any way. After all, I'm not training for the Tour de France. (If I were a racer, I would use tech to train for sure, but I'm not, so I don't.)
Simply put, I use technology to make money, not to distract me and make me a more efficient consumer by helping marketers (and now political groups) target their messaging to me based on my personal behavior. I see no value to ME for increasing my participation in the commercial surveillance economy.
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The company was in bad shape and broke 12-18 months before Chen got there. It never had the economic resources. It was spending huge money long before Chen attempting to establish carrier support for the new OS and for developers to develop apps for the new OS with little to no success. BB10 was delayed for 12-18 months for several reasons for including no app support from major vendors on Android/iOS by download lists. The BB10 OS and BB10 ecosystem wasn’t even ready for introduction at time of Z10 and Q10 rollout.
The Z10 and Q10 were carrier available everywhere globally with introduction supported by all the money BlackBerry had left not already committed to creditors. It couldn’t wait any longer and would have been even worse if rolled out sooner. Apple, Google and Microsoft all outsized BlackBerry 100x over each and the leading Android OEMs, proprietary and licensed for all three OS at time, also were exponentially larger. BlackBerry literally brought a broken slingshot to a battle of three armies that all had nuclear weapons behind their powerful guns.
What interests there were in BB10 at time of introduction was quickly evaporated as evidenced by the enormity returns and write down of the Z10s. People actually bought the Z10s initially and returned them upon realization that device wasn’t like BBOS for traditional use or like Android/iOS for app ecosystem. BBOS actually had much larger universe of popular apps than BB10 at time. I believe BB10 native apps never surpassed BBOS native apps, unless cancellations of BBOS apps in their App Store counts.
Regardless, how would you have expected BB to market BB10 when the company had no cash or credit left with vendors to do so. What good would a gun be when you don’t have enough guns or the ammunition to outshoot the others? It’s no different than when Apple was going under and then Microsoft floated the loan to save them for antitrust reasons.
If people don't want them, they won't buy them. Please provide any evidence not from your own imagination that smart watches could outsell smartphones anytime in the foreseeable future.
Smart watches are definitely growing in popularity, but they are very, very far from replacing smartphones and have some pretty limiting hardware constraints (battery size, screen size, camera, memory, etc). I don't know a single person who owns a smart watch but not a smartphone.
You say that like it's a good thing! I definitely get it. I just think it's a terrible idea!With it being a product that tethers to you, it’s a whole new level of personalization that I doubt anyone can currently comprehend. This is a device that is literally on you longer than your smartphone is in your hand, do you get that at least?
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Never said smart watches would replace smartphones, I believe we are still faraway from that sort of scenario. The reason I believe they could outsell smartphones however is due to the number of areas a smartwatch can be introduced vs phones, again due to the fact that a smartwatch is now the closest thing in tracking a person’s whereabouts and well-being amongst other things, this opens it up to more possibilities than we can even think of at this point in time.
I do believe it’s a great idea, of course for everything good in technology there’s the bad, and one can only hope companies take the correct measures for this, much in the same way as in smartphones. There are still people out there who actually believe their digital footprint is minimal because of the smartphone they use.
No, they chose to spend their money in the wrong places, which is called bad investments. They always had billions in cash on hand and never used it to market where they wanted to go, because they likely didn't know themselves. They wanted phones to stay dumb and dependant upon their own infrastructure and didn't position their products in the market the way they could have. To make it worse, They wasted millions trying to get Alycia Keys and other celebs to be spokespeople, but didn't have a message about their products. They, like you, blamed it on the products, the market, and everything else, except on their own failures which was lack of marketing and their own arrogance. Case in point, the only reason people buy ****ty my pillows stuffed with foam rubber fill that was invented in the 40's, is because marketing is powerful. Imagine if blackberry had tried it.