1. richw420's Avatar
    I'm using a Curve 8320 with OS 4.5.0.81 on T-Mobile.

    Lately I have been having a massive memory leak issue. I go from 11MB to 8MB in just 30 minutes, and then to 6MB within 2 hours. It's ridiculous having to do battery pulls SEVERAL times a day.

    Is there an app that can detect what's doing this? Or something I can do to track apps using memory?

    Anything would be great, thanks for the help!
    -Rich
    04-21-10 08:11 PM
  2. Branta's Avatar
    An 8320 should come up much better than 11 Mbytes after a battery pull. If you list the third party programs you have installed we may be able to identify the leaker.
    04-21-10 08:35 PM
  3. alb123's Avatar
    Yes, please list ALL 3rd party applications. The 8320 only has 64MB of storage so it doesn't really allow for a device chock full of applications like the newer devices. Plus, I can tell you from experience (I had an 8330 - those have 96MB storage), that letting an 83xx series device fall under 15MB or so, at all, is sort of asking for whacky behavior. Don't worry, we'll figure this out once you list your 3rd party apps! :-)

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    04-22-10 12:19 AM
  4. amazinglygraceless's Avatar
    Yes, please list ALL 3rd party applications. The 8320 only has 64MB of storage so it doesn't really allow for a device chock full of applications like the newer devices. Plus, I can tell you from experience (I had an 8330 - those have 96MB storage), that letting an 83xx series device fall under 15MB or so, at all, is sort of asking for whacky behavior. Don't worry, we'll figure this out once you list your 3rd party apps! :-)
    I have to disagree with this on two points.

    1) I had an 8310 (more comparable to the OPs device) and with 25+ apps I
    rarely fell below 22mb of application memory.

    2) On the 8310 when I did seen my memory drop to less than 5mb the only
    effect it had on my phone was in playing videos. Speed and usability was NEVER
    affected in any way.

    The key here is I optimize my OS prior to loading so that I have nothing I
    do not / will not use.
    04-22-10 12:46 AM
  5. alb123's Avatar
    Well, "optimizing your OS" is probably something the average BlackBerry user doesn't do. You have freed up more memory than you otherwise would have had. I believe you when you say you had 25 or so applications on your device, but not all applications are the same size. I still stand by my original comments that 83xx series devices (especially those with 64MB) are not going to handle large numbers of applications the way newer devices do. Also, pushing 83xx devices to 10MB or less has caused numerous documented problems for users. If you say you haven't ever experienced any, I'd say you are very fortunate.

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    04-22-10 12:58 AM
  6. amazinglygraceless's Avatar
    I agree with you on the number of apps, which is why I did not address that part.
    Logic dictates more memory would allow for more apps.

    As to the device memory limit, people I find come up with the "threshold" numbers
    based on the Device Memory Limit setting in Media. Specifically most people think
    that number is what they need to stay above for proper operation. It isn't.

    That number is simply the amount of memory reserved for media extraction
    and playback.
    04-22-10 01:18 AM
  7. richw420's Avatar
    After an OS shrink I only get left with 11MB, that's including all the apps I have. Here is the list of them.

    (Core apps & attachment service & email setup application & phone)
    BeBuzz
    App World
    BOLT
    Browser (native)
    Call Control Blacklist
    Color ID*
    Dexrex*
    Dragon for E-Mail*
    Foursquare
    Gmail
    Google Maps
    Google Sync
    Google Voice* (I think)
    iLock
    MemoPad
    Pandora
    Password Keeper
    DirecTV DVR Schedulre
    VoiceMemo
    Wheres My Phone*

    * = Runs in background & may use data when device is turned on


    When I open Google Maps one time and close it, this always shows up on the "Switch Application" list as it's running in the background.
    04-22-10 01:28 AM
  8. amazinglygraceless's Avatar
    Something still isn't right here. If you shrank the OS you should be well above 11mb.

    Do me a favor. Post what you selected and DID NOT select in Shrink A OS.
    04-22-10 01:46 AM
  9. alb123's Avatar
    Hmmm... My last two responses never appeared! Strange.

    Anyway... I don't know enough about the apps Foresquare or DirecTV. I've never installed them on my device. I would try the standard: Remove the most recently installed app and see what effect that has on your device. I personally think it might not be an actual memory leak as much as it is having just started to get into that dangerous area of low memory since you only have 64MB to being with. Of course, even things like MMS, Emails, TXT's add up. If you've got hundreds of those on your device, it certainly won't help matters. Unfortunately, I must be up VERY early tomorrow for a road trip with the GF so I this will be my last post for now. I wish you luck and I will definitely check this thread as soon as possible. I've been in your situation and I can't stand it!! Good luck!!

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    04-22-10 01:48 AM
  10. alb123's Avatar
    Oh, I missed the part where he said he already did an OS shrink... Hmmmm...

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    04-22-10 01:50 AM
  11. amazinglygraceless's Avatar
    @alb123: Good call on the saved messages. Also, I wonder if the OP has a lot
    of themes installed and if they are using a memory card.

    Like you, I'll be knocking of soon (we New Englanders need our sleep ), but this
    will be the first thread I look in on in the morning. Travel safely.
    04-22-10 02:04 AM
  12. richw420's Avatar
    10-20(maximum) texts saved, no emails. i do have a lot of passwords in Password Keeper and quite a bunch in the MemoPad. Quite a few in my Calendar too.


    @alb123: Good call on the saved messages. Also, I wonder if the OP has a lot
    of themes installed and if they are using a memory card.

    Like you, I'll be knocking of soon (we New Englanders need our sleep ), but this
    will be the first thread I look in on in the morning. Travel safely.

    Like I said. I did a OS shrink. So no themes, and I'm using a 2GB SD card
    04-22-10 02:05 AM
  13. amazinglygraceless's Avatar
    Have you considered wiping the phone, reinstalling the OS, check memory and then
    reinstall each app one at a time to isolate the one(s) that may be problematic.

    Yes it is a time consuming PITA but I had a completely different problem on the
    8310 and only doing that help me figure the issue out.
    04-22-10 02:11 AM
  14. richw420's Avatar
    Have you considered wiping the phone, reinstalling the OS, check memory and then
    reinstall each app one at a time to isolate the one(s) that may be problematic.

    Yes it is a time consuming PITA but I had a completely different problem on the
    8310 and only doing that help me figure the issue out.
    No I would never conisder this. Much more of a hassle than to batter pull. I'd rather remove apps running in background first then work that way.

    I was told at another forum to just upgrade my OS and that could fix the problem. (BlackberryOS - Your Blackberry RIM Software and RIM Applications Source - Huge memory leak problem)
    04-22-10 02:20 AM
  15. amazinglygraceless's Avatar
    That would work but if they memory issue persist you are still going to go the
    reinstall apps one by one to nail it down.
    04-22-10 02:28 AM
  16. ttfmaep's Avatar
    From reviewing your list and from my own experience with my 96 MB 8330, I think you have too many medium/large apps. I think you need to do some pruning. Look at the sizes of all your apps using Desktop Manager Application Loader.

    I could make several suggestions, but I would start with deleting App World.

    I can also tell you that Where's My Phone is OK. (Although it will be in your list of running apps, its effect is negligible.)
    04-22-10 06:36 AM
  17. Radius's Avatar
    The one thing to realize is the "memory drain" you are seeing is somewhere around normal. As the device runs it likes to reserve a bunch of memory for its own use.

    But as everyone here is pointing out you have a bigger problems with too many installed apps, or you are storing files and pictures in your internal memory and burning up all your free space.
    04-22-10 10:15 AM
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