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You can recover data, but the data was encrypted.
You can set the iPhone to do a full wipe after you enter the wrong password 10 times as well, but the remote wipe will also go through any other SIM card or WiFi network the phone uses, and if you've nicked a phone you're probably not smart enough to recover data or hack past the passcode screen anyway, so you'll take the original SIM out and put another one in or hook up to a WiFi network at some point, and when that happens, the remote wipe will initiate.
BTW, with GMail IMAP on the iPhone, SSL is used throughout the entire communication process, with no middleman server between GMail and the phone. This is a more secure setup than the BIS, though probably inferior to the BES, depending on the setup of the BES server in question.
At the end of the day, nothing is 100% secure. BlackBerry devices are quite close, but there's always a way in to anything, as demonstrated by the Torch browser hack. iPhones do not have security as a priority, but they still have fairly good measures in place which are, at the very least, enough to keep a thief out of your data. Android phones are pretty much the least secure phones on the market.
If I had top secret confidential information I didn't want to get into anyone else's hands as a matter of urgency, I'd likely keep it in a BES connected BlackBerry. The devices are the most secure, as is the BES setup. But the BIS offers lackluster security in comparison in terms of encryption as the data passes through. For this reason, I wouldn't trust that protocol as much.
The protocol of simple direct IMAP (mail server > client as opposed to mail server > BIS > client) with SSL enabled is more trustworthy than the BIS IMO.
So, really, it depends where you stand. The devices are the most secure but the BIS protocol has flaws. And I'm just rambling now, so I'll shut up
06-01-11 05:02 AM - Lol, don't, you seem to know your stuff.You can recover data, but the data was encrypted.
You can set the iPhone to do a full wipe after you enter the wrong password 10 times as well, but the remote wipe will also go through any other SIM card or WiFi network the phone uses, and if you've nicked a phone you're probably not smart enough to recover data or hack past the passcode screen anyway, so you'll take the original SIM out and put another one in or hook up to a WiFi network at some point, and when that happens, the remote wipe will initiate.
BTW, with GMail IMAP on the iPhone, SSL is used throughout the entire communication process, with no middleman server between GMail and the phone. This is a more secure setup than the BIS, though probably inferior to the BES, depending on the setup of the BES server in question.
At the end of the day, nothing is 100% secure. BlackBerry devices are quite close, but there's always a way in to anything, as demonstrated by the Torch browser hack. iPhones do not have security as a priority, but they still have fairly good measures in place which are, at the very least, enough to keep a thief out of your data. Android phones are pretty much the least secure phones on the market.
If I had top secret confidential information I didn't want to get into anyone else's hands as a matter of urgency, I'd likely keep it in a BES connected BlackBerry. The devices are the most secure, as is the BES setup. But the BIS offers lackluster security in comparison in terms of encryption as the data passes through. For this reason, I wouldn't trust that protocol as much.
The protocol of simple direct IMAP (mail server > client as opposed to mail server > BIS > client) with SSL enabled is more trustworthy than the BIS IMO.
So, really, it depends where you stand. The devices are the most secure but the BIS protocol has flaws. And I'm just rambling now, so I'll shut up
Isn't Gmail on BIS imap as well? At one point I did have my gmail set up using imap settings instead of the gmail plugin, you kind of had to trick the system, enter a random email address and password and then the BIS site would ask you for more details. That's where you could set up gmail as imap.
Anyway, my work email that I get from www.1and1.co.uk is set up as imap on my blackberry with the SSL box ticked. Going from pop3 set up to imap set up made my email delivery instant as opposed to the up to 15 minutes wait previously.
Posted from my CrackBerry at wapforums.crackberry.com06-01-11 05:17 AM - Historically, GMail and the BIS weren't exactly best friends, but these days you just do a CAPTCHA verification thing on the GMail account and you can set it up as you do with any other e-mail account on the BIS.
I have to now admit I don't know the intricate details of how GMail and the BIS work together, but as I understand it, BIS e-mail in general works by telling RIM's servers to check for e-mail on your account then forwarding any new messages to your device. Since the e-mail on a BlackBerry has always been true push, I wouldn't have thought RIM would use the IMAP protocol, but I could very well be wrong.
I think the IMAP system you're referring to might be the GMail app, which, like the one I had on my old Nokia, pulls your e-mail from Google using fast refresh rates. When I used it, there was no true push, but it had the same effect for this reason. However, I believe Google has since enabled true push for GMail on all devices. I set it up on my iPhone's default Mail app before, but it was in beta at the time and wasn't reliable, so I took it off and never really found a need to enable it again.
If anyone reading this knows more than we do, please do weigh in here.
BTW, as a side note, I'd like to say how much I like the BlackBerry user community on this forum. Apple and Android fanboys are always going mad whenever anyone says a bad word about their platform, but a general theme I've noticed here is that discussing the merits of different platforms doesn't warrant having your head chopped off by ravenous fanboys. It's a pleasant change
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