1. beachhoppr's Avatar
    Everyone who says I have nothing to hide misses the point. You DO have something to "hide" or you wouldn't have curtains on your living room windows. Basically you don't want people seeing you on the couch watching TV. So you hide in your home. Email is no different.

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    08-22-13 05:46 PM
  2. mikeo007's Avatar
    Everyone who says I have nothing to hide misses the point. You DO have something to "hide" or you wouldn't have curtains on your living room windows. Basically you don't want people seeing you on the couch watching TV. So you hide in your home. Email is no different.

    Posted via CB10
    No, I close the curtains as a courtesy to my neighbours, so they don't have to see my pale white backside.
    08-22-13 05:49 PM
  3. PP_Bone's Avatar
    I would pay whatever Lavabit was charging. I think it was around $8-$16 per year.
    08-22-13 05:53 PM
  4. howarmat's Avatar
    Everyone who says I have nothing to hide misses the point. You DO have something to "hide" or you wouldn't have curtains on your living room windows. Basically you don't want people seeing you on the couch watching TV. So you hide in your home. Email is no different.

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    That is not even remotely close to the same. Whats in my email is different than me and the wife doing "things" behind curtains.
    08-22-13 06:00 PM
  5. Toddboy71's Avatar
    I'm amazed that very few people give a crap when people go through their private correspondence, regardless whether they have anything to hide. Frankly, it's MY business, even if it's meaningless to me. When we give away freedoms, where does it stop? Give an inch, take a mile.

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    08-22-13 06:04 PM
  6. grover5's Avatar
    I'd pay for it. I like to protect my privacy. Doing something wrong has nothing to do with it for me.
    08-22-13 06:08 PM
  7. PP_Bone's Avatar
    I hope Snowden got himself some insurance and archived some personal stuff from the emails and other communications of the criminals acting in the name of our government. I'd like to see him put it to use.
    08-22-13 06:08 PM
  8. amazinglygraceless's Avatar
    That is not even remotely close to the same. Whats in my email is different than me and the wife doing "things" behind curtains.
    Memo to self: Add heavy drapes for Matt to Christmas list
    08-22-13 06:13 PM
  9. howarmat's Avatar
    I'm amazed that very few people give a crap when people go through their private correspondence, regardless whether they have anything to hide. Frankly, it's MY business, even if it's meaningless to me. When we give away freedoms, where does it stop? Give an inch, take a mile.

    Posted via CB10
    if the NSA wants to go thru my email and others and it will help protect america then im all for it. What is to say 2 terrorists cant sign up for this email and correspond with each other and plot out an attack?
    08-22-13 06:16 PM
  10. PP_Bone's Avatar
    I dunno. This terrorist under every bed stuff is genuine tinfoil hat fodder ...
    08-22-13 06:19 PM
  11. Toddboy71's Avatar
    if the NSA wants to go thru my email and others and it will help protect america then im all for it. What is to say 2 terrorists cant sign up for this email and correspond with each other and plot out an attack?
    There are limits and it's a fine line. But I'm sorry, the Patriot Act (which I was in favor of at the time) has totally overstepped it's original intention. It's gotten ridiculous.

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    08-22-13 06:21 PM
  12. TioPepe78's Avatar
    Nothing, nothing to hide, let them get bored reading my email lol. I guess unless you are a terrorist or do some illegal activity why to worry for security agencies reading email? I guess this practice actually helps to catch terrorist activities and infant porn and things like that, so in the overall I think it does more good than harm.

    That's my personal opinion I know a lot of people (maybe most of the people) will be against it and I understand, some will feel like someone broke into their house and watched all their personal stuff, and that is an understandable feeling and that I respect.

    What should never happen is that someone (government or anyone) make public our personal stuff without our permission.
    08-22-13 06:25 PM
  13. howarmat's Avatar
    There are limits and it's a fine line. But I'm sorry, the Patriot Act (which I was in favor of at the time) has totally overstepped it's original intention. It's gotten ridiculous.

    Posted via CB10
    i do agree with that too but it is what it is
    08-22-13 06:26 PM
  14. grover5's Avatar
    There are limits and it's a fine line. But I'm sorry, the Patriot Act (which I was in favor of at the time) has totally overstepped it's original intention. It's gotten ridiculous.

    Posted via CB10
    The Patriot Act (a little Orwellian sounding) was an overreaction to the wrong problem. We had the needed intelligence, our govt didn't share enough information and communicate enough across agencies to connect the dots,
    08-22-13 06:27 PM
  15. PP_Bone's Avatar
    There are limits and it's a fine line. But I'm sorry, the Patriot Act (which I was in favor of at the time) has totally overstepped it's original intention. It's gotten ridiculous.
    Yea. I mean where does it end???

    How much would you pay for a secure email account?-4130_9669_480.jpeg
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    08-22-13 06:30 PM
  16. scribacco's Avatar
    How much would you pay for a BlackBerry email account that was secure and could not be hacked by the NSA?
    Is this something BlackBerry should sell? It could go through their NOCs.
    Would they do this and p1ss off the American government or are they too big a customer?
    I already pay $50 a year for Hushmail
    08-22-13 06:31 PM
  17. jaylysf's Avatar
    I wouldn't but I think BBM can serve the needs of emails once it becomes a desktop and/or browser based.

    JayZ10
    08-22-13 06:35 PM
  18. npunk42's Avatar
    So nobody here cares if Google sifts through your emails looking for keywords so they can market to you?
    Nobody cares if their email info is being sold to third party companies?
    This has been going on a long long time, if there was going to be an infringement on anyones liberty, or some such problem it would be showing up by now. Until it does they can look, see, and sell just as the contract states and I agreed to.
    To answer your question, no I wouldn't pay extra for a secure from the NSA email account.
    08-22-13 06:37 PM
  19. PP_Bone's Avatar
    I wouldn't but I think BBM can serve the needs of emails once it becomes a desktop and/or browser based.

    JayZ10
    Do you think a true desktop client will happen? I always thought BBM to pc would be great, even if the pc user doesn't have a BlackBerry.
    08-22-13 06:38 PM
  20. grover5's Avatar
    Do you think a true desktop client will happen? I always thought BBM to pc would be great, even if the pc user doesn't have a BlackBerry.
    I'm really hoping for that too.

    Posted via CB10
    08-22-13 07:19 PM
  21. SparkyBC's Avatar
    Nothing is ever 100% secure. Any company that states this is full of you know what. That being said i wouldn't pay a dime, a person can easily setup their own mail server if they are truly paranoid.
    08-22-13 07:27 PM
  22. beachhoppr's Avatar
    I'm amazed that very few people give a crap when people go through their private correspondence, regardless whether they have anything to hide. Frankly, it's MY business, even if it's meaningless to me. When we give away freedoms, where does it stop? Give an inch, take a mile.

    Posted via CB10
    Thank you! That's what it was saying

    Posted via CB10
    08-22-13 07:47 PM
  23. DenverRalphy's Avatar
    Everyone who says I have nothing to hide misses the point. You DO have something to "hide" or you wouldn't have curtains on your living room windows. Basically you don't want people seeing you on the couch watching TV. So you hide in your home. Email is no different.

    Posted via CB10
    Not really. I also leave my curtains open from time to time, because I occasionally don't care what the neighbors see. But then too.... I've had the pleasure of experiencing "up against the window sex". Did somebody witness it? I dunno. But then too... We didn't care.

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    08-22-13 08:06 PM
  24. jaylysf's Avatar
    Do you think a true desktop client will happen? I always thought BBM to pc would be great, even if the pc user doesn't have a BlackBerry.
    I think they'd have to if they want to be relevant. GroupMe allows you to add people who uses the app as well as text messaging. You can also log in with a browser. If BBM doesn't do whatever it takes to expand it's going to die like AIM.

    JayZ10
    08-22-13 08:08 PM
  25. polytan02's Avatar
    Things to hide or not, this is not the issue.

    To be in good (mental) health, it is proven that we need to isolate ourselves and keep a secret garden. Knowing that we are tracked all the time is exactly like loosing freedom.

    You got to London and there are as everywhere which record 24/7. On top of that all your messages, phone discussions and emails are tracked and monitored.
    To some extend, this is no different from being in some sort of prison.

    This is why we need a global secured system even for the messaged exchanged with the wife simply saying that the fishes have been fed.

    They have been way to far in craziness and people monitoring.

    Posted via CB10
    08-23-13 01:02 AM
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