[bjm007]

I'm a very loyal BlackBerry user for almost a decade; still using my 9800 slider as my main phone.

After waiting a very long time for a BB10 device to upgrade to, I'm mystified at how bizarre the outcomes are in the Z10 and the Q10. Given that most BlackBerry holdouts like myself are rather traditional people who like keyboards for example, the functionality of the Z10 and the Q10 seem strangely out of step with what was really needed to satisfy their core customers. We waited a VERY long time for a device that doesn't even have a home button or track pad, and requires a screen gesture just to answer the damn phone... Weird. Anyway, I feel bad for BlackBerry because I think they squandered their huge market share on a disconnected strategy, but the market will ultimately decide that.

My ultimate question is this: While I'm waiting for something better to come along, is the difference in chip speed alone worth migrating from the 9800 to the 9810 in the mean time? At least the 9810 has a 1.2 GHz processor compared with the 9800, which is a little more than half of that. The only thing I'm missing is true LTE, but I'm using this more for the phone and the keyboard anyway.

I would be going backwards to go forward, but it's the only option that get's me a faster phone, while keeping some of the legacy functionality I have come to rely on: a keyboard, and a few familiar buttons to navigate with.

So what do you all think? I could use a bit of advice...... Thanks.

[Lendo]

I had a 9810 and I loved almost everything about it. The only exception was having to turn the phone sideways for webpages to fit the screen. That drove me nuts. And replacing the slider ribbon a couple times, but other than that it was a great phone. I'd have kept it until BB10 if I hadn't got a 9900 for 50$.

[VeniceBB]

Never been on the 9800 or 9810 myself, but before you decide to get a 9810 you might want to consider waiting just a little longer. You know, considering the fact that BB announced they'll release one more BB OS7 device this year. Of course it's up to you, but I probably wouldn't make the investment now if it might only be for a few months.

[kbz1960]

Never been on the 9800 or 9810 myself, but before you decide to get a 9810 you might want to consider waiting just a little longer. You know, considering the fact that BB announced they'll release one more BB OS7 device this year. Of course it's up to you, but I probably wouldn't make the investment now if it might only be for a few months.

Depends on where the OP is. Is this new BBOS device going to be sold there?

[VeniceBB]

Ah yes, that is a good point kbz1960. Hopefully more information about that device and availability will come forward soon.

[bjm007]

I'm in the US... Where will new OS7 device be sold? Is that the A10? I'm still a keyboard fan...........

[One Missed Call]

My advice as an owner of 2 9800s and 1 9810:

Stay away from the 9810.

The size and design of those devices are my favorite, however, OS7 compared to OS10 is like driving a Lada instead of a Porshe.

I firmly believe that a hybrid design is essential for BlackBerry to improve reception of its OS10 but take it from me. I dropped a lot of cash of the OS7 9810 less than a year ago and I should have stuck with the 9800 until I got my Q10. It wasn't worth the money, or the comitmment that came with it to get the hardware credit.

PS. For some reason the 9810 always felt more glitchy then the 9800. Not sure why.

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[bjm007]

My advice as an owner of 2 9800s and 1 9810:

Stay away from the 9810.

The size and design of those devices are my favorite, however, OS7 compared to OS10 is like driving a Lada instead of a Porshe...

PS. For some reason the 9810 always felt more glitchy then the 9800. Not sure why.

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Interesting... Is that the general consensus, that OS7 is glitchier than OS6?

[cevag]

Absolutely not.

Interesting... Is that the general consensus, that OS7 is glitchier than OS6?

[bjm007]

Quote Originally Posted by bjm007 View Post
Interesting... Is that the general consensus, that OS7 is glitchier than OS6?
Absolutely not.

Ok, I got it... It's not the OS then. It's the 9810, which might be glitchier than the 9800... Is that the assertion? Anybody else agree?

[Lendo]

9810 was a giant leap forward with a tiny bump in Device Identification as far as I'm concerned.

[bjm007]

9810 was a giant leap forward with a tiny bump in Device Identification as far as I'm concerned.

Thanks, but what exactly do you mean by device identification?

[Lendo]

9800 to 9810..

[Lendo]

This is a pretty in depth review. You decide.

[Don_Henry]

bjm - if this helps at all: I have owned both the 9800 and still own and love my 9810. Notwithstanding all the new things that BB10 brings to the table - I cannot give up all the things that OS7 has (hard buttons, trackpad,) and software features like LED notifications, profile customizations, etc.

I can assure you the 9810 is a solid device and most decidedly much better than the 9800 (and BTW I loved my 9800 too!)

I run tons of apps - many of which are battery consumers - and I run hybrid OSs from BerryLicious. I NEVER have any problems with "spinning clock", or memory leakage, or device freezes, or the other problems that are commonly reported. And even if you dont want to run a hybrid OS, any of the latest str8 7.1 OSs are very fine.

And in my experience - 7.1 is not "glitchier" than 6.0 - nor is the 9810 "glitchier" than 9800.

As another poster stated, the 9900 series are also good - personally, I like the larger screen of the 9810.

In either case (9810 or 9900) - I would not wait too long - they may not be available new for too much longer . .

Sent from my BlackBerry 9810 using Tapatalk

[cbeeches]

I made switch from 9800 to 9810. I really like the 9810. No Problems. There are a few differences to get familiar with, but it's simple. I am glad I made the switch to 9810

[One Missed Call]

Perhaps my experience is not typical. However, I can say with hesitation (and as a HUGE slider/hybrid fan), the 9800 series of blackberry is not a wise investment today unless you can get it for very little money and out of contract.

If you sign a 2/3 year contract for that device, it won't be long before you realize the browser is useless (by today's standards) and that will only become worse as time passes.

Don't take my word - try it out. You"ll see what I mean.

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[go1ndr]

Went from a 9800 to the 9810 and the 9810 is light years ahead of the 9800, especially if you are running a current OS update or hybrid like Don Henry or others. No comparison in the phones as far as I'm concerned--that said, I now have the Q10 and once again, it is absolutely light years ahead of the 9810--that I too still love and use via wifi for some emails and other stuff. It took about 3 hrs to forget the track ball and learn the basic "swipes" of the Q10 but I can tell you with out a doubt, I would never go back unless I needed a back up until I got another BB10. These are honest opinions from a fairly heavy user. Good luck with your decision and do yourself a favor and go to an ATT or Verizon store and play around with a Q10 (since you like a keyboard) for a few mins. You will be glad you did. BTW, if you do go for the 9810, upgrade to at least the .861 OS or a hybrid, as it is stable and all or the majority of all of the bugs are out of the OS so it runs smoothly.

[southlander]

The OS 7 phones are a lot better than the OS 6 phones. Double the processor speeds and about 25% more ram. Also as I recall the OS 7 phones were the first to get dedicated graphics accelerators.

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[SK122387]

Thanks, but what exactly do you mean by device identification?

He means Torch 9800 vs Torch 9810. Only adding the 10 to the numbers, where as the Bold 9700 was replaced by a Bold 9780, which added 80 to the 9780, for many of the same changes that the 9810... 5megapixel camera, faster processor, more memory, if I recall. So it would have made more sense to call the 9810 the 9880, I guess, because the upgrades over the 9800 should have gotten it a higher number than 9810.

I have a Z10 and Q10 now, but before the Z10, my main devices were my 9900 and 9810. I got the 9810 on T-Mobile, and I was excited because before, only at&t got the 9800, and I had never gotten a chance to have a slider phone. Before the Z10, the 9810 was the phone with the biggest screen I had used. I even kept it for a little while after I got my Z10, thinking I would out my micro sim in an adapter and use it in my old 9810 every once in a while...but after having BlackBerry10, there was no way I'd go back to OS7.

I too was really fond of the trackpad and the call/end keys, and was nervous about the Z10. I had really no issue typing on the Z10 because the on screen keyboard is so good, but I really got the Z10 to hold me over until the Q10 came out..and wow, what an awesome keyboard it has. You don't seem to want to try a BlackBerry 10 device, but should you change your mind, the Q10 would be what you'd want. It's absolutely the best BlackBerry I've owned (it was my 15th BlackBerry phone to date).

The new OS7 device will probably be for "emerging markets" aka not in the United States, and the rumored A10 will be BlackBerry's flagship BlackBerry 10 touchscreen device, with a larger screen to compete with the Galaxy Note series and other phones in the "phablet" category. It for sure doesn't sound like something you'd be interested in. I loved the trackpad too, and I had the 9700, two 9780s, two 9900s and the 9810..that's 6 phones with the trackpad..but with the Q10 especially, I just don't miss it at all, and as hard as it is to believe, BlackBerry 10 makes the trackpad seem obsolete.

But if you must have it, then get the 9810. It was a great phone for me, I had the silver one, and it had a fresh look to it. It rarely got slow, and the keyboard was pretty good, though a little narrower than my 9900's. It has a good 5mega pixel camera with autofocus, which was great for me at the time.. my only gripe is that the battery door got creaky over time, but that's probably because I'd have to take it off a lot to get to my sim card when I'd switch to my 9900.