1. killerfooty's Avatar
    I've been a long time BB user, I love the platform and love the company. I've just recently dunked my 9800 in some water. Surprisingly, the device is still working pretty optimally but there is water between the LCD & lens and some of the buttons require a second strike here or there to get the input. Considering it was a full submerge, I'm very impressed.

    I'm ready to get a new device but I'm looking at the available units and just scratching my head. All the devices I'm contemplating are OS 7 of course. The 9900, 9810 or 9850/60 seem like decent devices but as is the current knock with RIM, the hardware seems a bit "last year". I'd pretty much jump in with both feet for a 9900 but the absence of "auto-focus" has me thinking it's not such a good decision. As far as I can tell, I'm faced with a few options since all current OS 7 phones won't get getting BBX upgrades in the fall...

    1. I keep my current device and get a PB. I figure with the use of bluetooth, the PB and the new OS 2.0, I should be able to get through until the BBX platform goes public on HH.

    2. I run this device until it kacks, then use my old 9700 until BBX devices are out there and do an upgrade to the next-wave devices.

    3. I just suck it up and realize that BBX in fall may be too optimistic and just get an OS 7 device. Should this be my best option, I'd like people to weigh in on which device they prefer. I use Social media heavy, work email/text heavy, medium duty calling but the phone MUST be a good media device, I travel a tonne and my phone is my mobile sanity card.

    Anyway, any help would be great, I'm a bit out of touch with how the lay of the land is panning out moving ahead for RIM so I'm relying on the CB collective to help inform me of the best path forward.
    02-23-12 08:11 AM
  2. soogriff's Avatar
    I have the 9930 and it doesn't seem "last year" to me. I don't have a problem with heavy social media, email, or text. The extra battery bundle is a life saver when on the road. BBX is coming up, but I'm at peace with giving it some time to work out any kinks it may have. The 9930 has kept me pretty happy.

    If your device craps out, that may make the decision for you. But if you're an addict like some of us on CB, you may have a spare BB (or two) in a drawer somewhere.

    Good luck to ya.
    02-23-12 08:17 AM
  3. killerfooty's Avatar
    Heh, I was using the "last year" reference in comparison to Android Galaxy Nexus/Note. How is the camera on the 9900 with no auto-focus? Is the screen big enough for reading email nicely? That's one of the biggest things I like about the Torch.

    I do have some old lugs I was going to use as an alternative, that's for sure. O
    02-23-12 08:22 AM
  4. o4liberty's Avatar
    The 9930 is a great device probably Rims best to date. As far as the auto focus goes its not that bad. I have learned that no matter how mega pixels a camera phone has its still not as good as a regular camera. I take a lot of photos for my work and now use a small canon Elph 300 hs and the quality of the photos compared to any phone is night and day. With drop box I can get any photo I want on my phone I take with my camera.

    Sent from my BlackBerry 9930 using Tapatalk
    02-23-12 08:50 AM
  5. TgeekB's Avatar
    I love my 9810 and it's not "last year" to me. I also have a PB which really enhances the experience. Glad to hear you're not thinking about jumping ship. Blackberry has a lot to offer right now and most of us think it will only get better.
    02-23-12 09:00 AM
  6. adrenaline_x's Avatar
    Used All three.

    After being on 3 versions of iphones over the past 3 years i never thought i would ever get a phone with a keyboard. The 9900 sucked me in. Lack of autofocus sucks for up close images and my wife complains about hers alot when trying to take pictures of text.

    9810 is okay, i hated the keyboard and the screen was too small to type on, but its a HUGE upgrade to the 9800 that i tried out before passing it to another employee and keeping my iphone 4. The 9810 feel light years ahead and is very responsive.

    The 9860 was a great phone and great replacement for my iphone 4. The keyboard was a bit squished i felt compared to my 9900 but the full screen and watching videos etc was worth it. I gave that to the CFO as he wanted to try it while i a was using the htc evo 3d.. I didn't get it back from him and had a 9900 still sitting on my desk so i started using it while i waited to upgrade another employee and grab a 9860 for myself..

    Never happened, i love my 9900 too much to give it up

    If I were to choose now i would be stuck between the 9860 and the 9900.

    I'm not going to lie, as soon as a BB10 device comes out i will be getting it asap.

    I'm a phone you know
    02-23-12 09:33 AM
  7. killerfooty's Avatar
    How is dropbox on the 99XX? That's a great way of doing it. I use photos all the time for work and am mobile 50-80% of my weeks.
    02-23-12 09:34 AM
  8. killerfooty's Avatar
    Did you ever have the 9800? I heard the difference between the two is Night & Day. I'm torn on the slider though, I like the "phone" keyboard, screen, touch, buttons & trackpad BUT the slider seems really hokey for a mechanism, mine got clacky pretty quickly.
    02-23-12 09:35 AM
  9. adrenaline_x's Avatar
    Yes. I used a 9800 for a day and found it to be far to laggy/slow so i kept my iphone..

    NEw 9810 night and day difference. Its super fast.

    The water damage on the phone will likely disappear after a while. If you hadn't put your phone in a bad of rice for 24 hours yet i would do that.. You can also replace the screen on your phone as well and may be another option.

    I'm yet to take apart a 9800/10 but have replaced screens and keyboards in all of the pre os 7 phones.
    02-23-12 09:52 AM
  10. killerfooty's Avatar
    Thanks for the all the info Adrenaline_x. I may just go out to grab the 9900 or 9850/60 today. After you reviews, I don't feel so apprehensive, then probably just grab a BB10 phone a couple months after they get released. How do you like your PB 32?
    02-23-12 10:03 AM
  11. adrenaline_x's Avatar
    If you are coming off a 9800,9700,9780 the new phones feel light years ahead. The web browsing alone makes it worth the upgrade. Web pages load just as fast as my iphone4 did.

    Love my PB. I have an ipad as well and since i got the Playbook i haven't used my ipad more the 3 times when my playbook battery is dead. Its the perfect size for me and i take it everywhere and allows me to remote desktop into our company servers remotely. The ipad is too big to ever leave the house/office.

    If you like the all touch screen, the 9860 is a great phone. But after using the 9900 its hard to use a touch screen again. The 9900 keyboard is light years ahead of the 9800/10 and 97XX series.

    I was trying to get my wife to upgrade since october and was finally able to get her to move to a white 9900 (i'm jealous) and keeps telling me " i should of upgraded when you told me" Initally the 9900 bugged her ear because of the sharper edges vs her 9780.

    Always having a network connection via bridge is a win for me.. I (company) ditched 3g plan for the ipad after gettng my playbook.

    When i was hooked on the iphone she wouldn't use my old 3g other then to play angry birds.. Glad she never switched since the iphone 4 doesn't function as a phone.

    Last edited by adrenaline_x; 02-23-12 at 10:21 AM.
    02-23-12 10:16 AM
  12. killerfooty's Avatar
    Well, I'm not a huge fan of all touch to be honest but I want something that has a good display for movies and media while travelling abroad (I spend 1-2 weeks on the road/month) and I really like the bigger screen for reading emails and browsing web.

    I LOVED my old 9000, probably the best phone (for the time) I've owned, so I'm really drawn to the 9900 just because of the keyboard, it's a beast, always has been. I'm semi-tempted to get a 9900 & 64gb PB for a touchscreen/media device but the PB's lack of Skype and Netflix has me questioning it as a tablet.
    02-23-12 10:45 AM
  13. killerfooty's Avatar
    And doesn't the PB have some weird codecs missing for audio/visual playback?
    02-23-12 10:46 AM
  14. alexandros2011's Avatar
    i went from a 9700 to a 9810 and i totally love it. best decision i couldve made. i couldve chosen the 9900, but coming from the 9700 it seemed just a bit of more of the same for me. plus i love the touch screen and keyboard combo of the 9810. the camera on this is fantastic, some of the pics ive taken with is is better than a stand alone digital camera. super fast processor as well and i love the bigger screen. guess im a happy camper
    02-23-12 10:53 AM
  15. adrenaline_x's Avatar
    Skype is missing and annoying. Netflix i cancelled since we never used it at home.

    I have a large media libary at home and most media plays fine on the playbook. The issues arrive when the audio is encoded in anything other then mono or stereo. Anything with 5.1 embedded results in video without sound. The playbook doesn't down convert to stereo. You can fix this easily yourself by re-encoding the audio as stereo with freeware tools.. Or grab content that has stereo specified in the nfo

    Depending on how savy you are, you can setup apache or iis on your home machine allowing you to login and stream your own content to your playbook while on the road. You upstream bandwidth will most likely be the determining factor though.
    02-23-12 11:25 AM
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