1. dmvksa's Avatar
    I have heard a rumour that I should be ablle to download something to make my blackberry work even though the email and instant messaging has been shut down by the govt. Can anyone help.
    08-06-10 04:35 AM
  2. Branta's Avatar
    If the network is forced to shut down BB data service or remove it from account provisioning, you can't beat it. Your phone becomes a dumbphone.

    If the data service is disabled on the Saudi networks your phone should still work while roaming on overseas networks. If they remove it from your account it applies everywhere but you should no longer be billed for the discontinued service.
    08-06-10 05:51 AM
  3. Tiassa's Avatar
    I also wouldn't try to get around the Saudi authorities, they have a reputation of taking harsh actions against those who violate their laws.
    08-06-10 10:37 AM
  4. Reed McLay's Avatar
    According to this morning news reports, nothing has changed in KSA. Email and Messaging are still fully functional.

    The bluff has been called.
    08-06-10 10:43 AM
  5. bushako's Avatar
    According to this morning news reports, nothing has changed in KSA. Email and Messaging are still fully functional.

    The bluff has been called.
    if i heard it correct only the BBM was suspended. Emailing service should still be active.
    08-06-10 11:10 AM
  6. Reed McLay's Avatar
    BBC News - Blackberry service saved in Saudi

    A ban on the use of the device for sending and receiving messages was due to have come into force.

    And locals said the handsets stopped working for four hours.

    Blackberry manufacturers RIM (Research in Motion) are reported to have said that a solution had been found to satisfy the local authorities, who claimed the devices compromised national security.
    ...
    Any claims that we provide, or have ever provided, something unique to the government of one country that we have not offered to the governments of all countries, are unfounded. … RIM cannot accommodate any request for a copy of a customer's encryption key, since at no time does RIM, or any wireless network operator or any third party, ever possess a copy of the key. This means that customers of the BlackBerry enterprise solution can maintain confidence in the integrity of the security architecture without fear of compromise.
    A solution has been found, you can't get there from here.
    08-06-10 11:17 AM
  7. binti.sahara's Avatar
    Posted from my CrackBerry at wapforums.crackberry.com

    there is no way this lockout would have lasted. bb is tooooo integrated into the business world.

    people love their personal wealth more than they love the safety of their nation.

    is it REALLY that dangerous though? is there some type of matrix spy type of stuff going on?

    Posted from my CrackBerry at wapforums.crackberry.com
    08-06-10 01:51 PM
  8. JohnnyTheCanuck's Avatar
    This isn't meant as a cheap shot towards the Muslim world at all: Isn't it Ironic that these countries are the ones worried about "National Security" when it has been the western world and foreign soil that has been the site of a majority of grim attacks by Terrorist groups (British Subway, WTC, etc etc etc)

    and besides the point.. if one were to instigate a terrorist plot, why would they use BBM to plan it? Lol.

    They are trying to be "Big Brother" and claiming "National Security" for violating people's privacy (something that is not a right in those cultures and nations)
    08-06-10 04:45 PM
  9. JohnnyTheCanuck's Avatar
    08-06-10 04:50 PM
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    "Help! Any way of bypassing Saudi lockout"

    It's called regime change.
    08-06-10 06:22 PM
  11. JohnnyTheCanuck's Avatar
    "Help! Any way of bypassing Saudi lockout"

    It's called regime change.
    Lmao.

    Posted from my BlackBerry using BerryBlab
    08-06-10 06:40 PM
  12. Reed McLay's Avatar
    "Help! Any way of bypassing Saudi lockout"

    It's called regime change.
    Unfortunatly, that is exactly the fear that motivates those states concerned.
    08-06-10 09:42 PM
  13. skyboxer's Avatar

    and besides the point.. if one were to instigate a terrorist plot, why would they use BBM to plan it? Lol.

    BBM groups would work well I would think. Let's hope they don't use it.

    Posted from my CrackBerry at wapforums.crackberry.com
    08-07-10 07:04 AM
  14. omerw's Avatar
    maybe u guys sud try using BES.
    when Pakistan banned BB services all users on BIS had to face blockage of service while BES users experienced no stoppage what so ever.
    08-07-10 09:18 AM
  15. FF22's Avatar
    RIM and Saudi reached a deal - servers in Saudi.
    08-07-10 09:42 AM
  16. kill_9's Avatar
    Originally Posted by RIM Statement
    Any claims that we provide, or have ever provided, something unique to the government of one country that we have not offered to the governments of all countries, are unfounded. RIM cannot accommodate any request for a copy of a customer's encryption key, since at no time does RIM, or any wireless network operator or any third party, ever possess a copy of the key. This means that customers of the BlackBerry enterprise solution can maintain confidence in the integrity of the security architecture without fear of compromise.
    With the settlement reached between Research in Motion (RIM) and the Government of Saudi Arabia we have proof that the preceding words from RIM were meaningless words. If communications over the RIM-operated network are truly secure then at no time should the messages be readable until the message is deposited on the BlackBerry Enterprise Server of the end-client organization. Apparently, communications are not as secure as RIM has touted.

    Shame om RIM.
    08-07-10 02:30 PM
  17. 1812dave's Avatar
    RIM caved. BIG mistake. no, make that a COLOSSAL mistake. They just gave new meaning to the term "Pandora's Box". Don't laugh when I say that RIM could end up being another Palm. Enterprise clients are not going to be happy about this news.
    08-07-10 03:23 PM
  18. Reed McLay's Avatar
    With the settlement reached between Research in Motion (RIM) and the Government of Saudi Arabia we have proof that the preceding words from RIM were meaningless words. If communications over the RIM-operated network are truly secure then at no time should the messages be readable until the message is deposited on the BlackBerry Enterprise Server of the end-client organization. Apparently, communications are not as secure as RIM has touted.

    Shame om RIM.
    RIM caved. BIG mistake. no, make that a COLOSSAL mistake. They just gave new meaning to the term "Pandora's Box". Don't laugh when I say that RIM could end up being another Palm. Enterprise clients are not going to be happy about this news.
    The story is still developing. At this time, there has been no confirmation from Research in Motion of a KSA deal.

    Nobody has a credible souce, yet.
    08-07-10 03:31 PM
  19. 1812dave's Avatar
    The story is still developing. At this time, there has been no confirmation from Research in Motion of a KSA deal.

    Nobody has a credible souce, yet.
    A deal to avert BlackBerry ban could be precedent - Yahoo! News

    it looks like they HAVE agreed to allow servers be installed in-country.
    08-07-10 03:35 PM
  20. Radius's Avatar
    With the settlement reached between Research in Motion (RIM) and the Government of Saudi Arabia we have proof that the preceding words from RIM were meaningless words. If communications over the RIM-operated network are truly secure then at no time should the messages be readable until the message is deposited on the BlackBerry Enterprise Server of the end-client organization. Apparently, communications are not as secure as RIM has touted.

    Shame om RIM.
    I'm sorry but I can't see this as being a big issue. Anyone who uses a non-RIM device has no expectations of security in any country and by choosing RIM they have security over some of their communications. But ultimately it is up to that country whether or not to allow such products into the hands of the populace.

    If the USA does not want to allow it then I believe RIM should cater to their individual needs and allow the UAE to access the communications of their citizens as they see fit just like any other device be it iPhone or anything.

    Coming down on RIM for deciding to be like everyone else and attempt to save their market share is foolish. So what, they should lose access to an entire market?

    If people here want to be crusaders for justice, start somewhere practical and stop people for being stoned to death because they went into public without a male escort or something. There are much greater problems there than someone reading their text messages reminding their husband to bring home something for dinner.
    08-07-10 03:37 PM
  21. Reed McLay's Avatar
    When I read it here, it happened. Until then, it is speculation.

    BlackBerry - Press Releases

    The OP topic has been resolved. Let's keep the 'News and Rumors' where it belongs.

    http://forums.crackberry.com/f40/rim...arabia-510254/

    08-07-10 03:42 PM
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