Has RIM 'peaked'? Blackberry versus Apple which is better for business users? oh-oh.
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- I'm going to go over to an iPhone forum just to see if they talk about BlackBerry(or Android) nearly as much as BlackBerry users here talk about the iPhone.
Posted from my CrackBerry at wapforums.crackberry.com05-26-10 12:06 PMLike 0 - They don't. I've been on the tipb.com (CrackBerry's sister site for the iPhone) site for a few months now and I don't think I've seen a single forum posting referring to blackberries.05-26-10 12:19 PMLike 0
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I suspect iPhones and other competitors are spoken about here so often because they have something many Blackberry owners want but RIM can't/won't develop and integrate in to their current or future phones and/or OS.
Seems like simple common sense to me.
Posted from my CrackBerry at wapforums.crackberry.com05-26-10 12:25 PMLike 0 - amazinglygracelessRetired Mod
What is the underlying security architecture of a BlackBerry and HOW is it
superior to other platforms?
If a user only uses a BlackBerry for messaging, music, videos, games..... how is
it not as much of a "toy" than an iPhone? The point here is that the usefulness
of any device depends on the person using it. Consider that if you choose to
answer this question.05-26-10 12:27 PMLike 0 -
- Oh no! NOT ANOTHER BB vs. iPhone thread!!! These threads should be locked because the discussion gets nowhere and it becomes very negative. As a Crackberry member, I'm getting really sick of this because it isn't necessary to have a new thread everyday about iPhone vs. Blackberry.
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05-26-10 12:53 PMLike 0 - Yes, RIM has peaked...they are done. They did not pay close enough attention to what the 12 year olds wanted and now all the corporate and government businesses that used to buy bb because of data security and email will be dropping them for more games and apps. Oh well, it was a good run while it lasted.
If you're wanting an iPhone because you want something more media and game friendly, go get one. They work great, as do the droids, but none of them are going to destroy the bb business. There are so many phones because there are so many personal preferences.Last edited by grey; 05-26-10 at 03:21 PM.
05-26-10 03:17 PMLike 0 -
- BrantaRetired Network Mod
The real proof is in-service performance and operator perception. To date there are no credible reports of a successful attack against a BB device without assistance (willing or otherwise) from the user to install rogue software. Compare that with widely reported compromise of competing devices, both in the wild and demonstrated during Black Hat conventions.05-26-10 03:35 PMLike 0 - I confess that I don't have a clue to what lies behind bb data security, but if banks, and the government (particularly all of the federal law enforcement agencies...FBI, ICE, CIA, ATF, etc...) will use bb's exclusively, then that's a strong enough endorsement of data security. I don't feel a need to know the details any more than I need to know how to build an engine from scratch in order to drive my truck. But above all of what I do and don't know, I think that everybody should get whatever phone they want. It just frustrates me when people buy a bb, and then complain because it doesn't do what an iphone or droid do. If anyone is not happy with what their bb does, go get something else.05-26-10 04:02 PMLike 0
- amazinglygracelessRetired Mod"nuff said.
I work for a governmental agency and almost a year ago we took almost 300
BlackBerrys out of service (full disclosure: on my recommendation) and replaced them other devices.
This may come as a total shock to you but we are as secure as we were with RIM.05-26-10 04:30 PMLike 0 - All I can say is that if e-mail is important iPhone is a NO NO. The iPhone e-mail is a bit un-predictable, sometimes your e-mails come through fine. Other times, there is a 20 minute delay or more before you get them! It is annoying, and I don't even use e-mail much! Also the iPhone has no multi-tasking at the moment. In the next software update it will get multi-tasking, but if you watch a youtube video on it, the multitasking isn't going to be all that great.
Blackberry = more of a "tool"
iPhone = more of a "toy".
In conclusion, you choose what suits you best. However, I do think that quality of RIM products are higher, then that of Apple.05-26-10 07:16 PMLike 0 -
All I can say is that if e-mail is important iPhone is a NO NO. The iPhone e-mail is a bit un-predictable, sometimes your e-mails come through fine. Other times, there is a 20 minute delay or more before you get them! It is annoying, and I don't even use e-mail much!
Hopefully nothing really important is in them, otherwise he's screwed. Some tool.05-26-10 08:03 PMLike 0 - I have had a blackberry for three+ years now. First was a Curve 8320, then a Bold 9700, and then I switched from TMO to VZW. Before I got my BB I had a Motorola RIZR. I always thirsted for what BB had to offer. But I tried IPhones and they didn't satisfy me. And now Android phones don't satisfy me. With all the apps and gadgets, they're unnecessary. To me, my Blackberry does everything I need it to do for work and play, the options are well laid out and easy to use (my gf had an android phone and I couldn't even find options I use everyday on bb) and if it weren't for the sure press screen I wouldn't have a storm cuz I loved the keyboards so much. It's all preference. And complaining on a blackberry forum and wishing for other phones or downing bb's make no sense. Especially coming from a Crackberry moderator.05-26-10 08:11 PMLike 0
- And complaining on a blackberry forum and wishing for other phones or downing bb's make no sense. Especially coming from a Crackberry moderator.
LOL.
Hey Graceless - didn't you get the meemo that you can't express discontent with something BB because you are a moderator?
If you didn't it was probably a BIS outage...*snort*05-26-10 08:49 PMLike 0 - amazinglygracelessRetired Mod
person to explain the security of the BB. No one has but they are sure as heck
hurt by a different point of view.
Gotta love fanboys05-26-10 08:57 PMLike 0 - Really? Let's try a little test. Answer these two questions, IN DETAIL.
What is the underlying security architecture of a BlackBerry and HOW is it
superior to other platforms?
Now I don't know the details to the certificates that RIM carries that the other manufacturers do not, but they do exist, do they matter to 99% of the IT world? NOPE, what does matter is BES, and complete control over the hardware, that is the "security" that business likes, remote wipe commands, and IT controlled syncing, everything done on my BB is logged and can be traced if I were to be hit by a bus and my BB crushed, and me dead, the company could pick back up and move forward without data loss, as far as I know Android nor iPhone offer this level yet.
If a user only uses a BlackBerry for messaging, music, videos, games..... how is
it not as much of a "toy" than an iPhone? The point here is that the usefulness
of any device depends on the person using it. Consider that if you choose to
answer this question.
You are correct, the BB and the iPhone are BOTH perfectly capable at being a Toy, and a Business phone, just it is easier for the iPhone to become a toy, as it does have FAR more toy usefulness, and the BB has more useful Business tools on board, Documents to Go on the BB is far superior to that on the Apple platform, can't say the Android platform as I have yet to use it.
I really really Hope RIM has something up their sleeves with BES/BIS moving into 2011, and that OS6.1 is a business geared incremental upgrade to OS6.
I would go crazy if I had to use an iPhone for work, an Android I might consider. just nothing that has to use iTunes.05-26-10 09:10 PMLike 0
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