Is the GPS on the tour locked?
- I'm ditching my storm for the Tour when its out, however i've been searching around on the internet as to whether or not the GPS on the Tour is the same as the Storm. I use Google Maps and Poynt alot and if i have to go back to a locked GPS (aka. my 8330) its gonna drive me nuts!
If there's a thread somewhere that clearly states this, feel free to point me in that direction.. (unless there is no clear answer on this yet..!)
thanks06-24-09 01:13 PMLike 0 - I had heard the same thing - future devices wouldnt be locked, but they werent going back and fully unlocking previous devices. I cant remember where i read it, so i wasnt sure if this was actually the case of not..thanks06-24-09 01:20 PMLike 0
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- I remember seeing something about aGPS being unlocked on one of the BB devices as well and that it allowed for faster sat connection and increased battery performance due to reduced satellite search times when using 3rd-party nav apps. Was i just seeing or misinterpreting things or is this an actual feature? How would you achieve this?
Posted from my CrackBerry at wapforums.crackberry.com06-24-09 01:42 PMLike 0 - You will have the same results as the Storm. A-GPS is locked to BB Maps and VZ Nav only, while GPS is unlocked.06-24-09 02:10 PMLike 0
- From RIM's website:
GPS on the Tour:
"Assisted, Autonomous and Simultaneous GPS enabled with preloaded BlackBerry Maps application and for e911 capabilities."
Assisted - Means that it uses cell towers to more quickly identify its location. This is a byproduct of the e911 requirements.
Autonomous - Doesn't need the carrier for the GPS to function. This means it's unlocked.
Simultaneous - GPS and phone radios can operate at the same time.06-24-09 06:09 PMLike 0 - From RIM's website:
GPS on the Tour:
"Assisted, Autonomous and Simultaneous GPS enabled with preloaded BlackBerry Maps application and for e911 capabilities."
Assisted - Means that it uses cell towers to more quickly identify its location. This is a byproduct of the e911 requirements.
Autonomous - Doesn't need the carrier for the GPS to function. This means it's unlocked.
Simultaneous - GPS and phone radios can operate at the same time.
Is the bolded text in the above post the same as what i asked previously from the following post?
I remember seeing something about aGPS being unlocked on one of the BB devices as well and that it allowed for faster sat connection and increased battery performance due to reduced satellite search times when using 3rd-party nav apps. Was i just seeing or misinterpreting things or is this an actual feature? How would you achieve this?
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I really hope someone can shed some light on this for me, i'd really like to know.06-24-09 06:39 PMLike 0 - I remember seeing something about aGPS being unlocked on one of the BB devices as well and that it allowed for faster sat connection and increased battery performance due to reduced satellite search times when using 3rd-party nav apps. Was i just seeing or misinterpreting things or is this an actual feature? How would you achieve this?
Posted from my CrackBerry at wapforums.crackberry.com06-24-09 06:54 PMLike 0 -
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yes it will..
GPS is whats normally used for most things..
aGPS adds the ability of cell tower triangulation so it makes it more accurate..
but with just plain GPS its accurate enough for anything we will use it for.06-25-09 04:12 AMLike 0 - A few points:
aGPS does not use cell tower triangulation. It uses cell towers to assist in determining location, but not by means of triangulation.
Secondly, aGPS is more broad than GPS. This is to say that the aGPS in the 9630 has a fully functional standalone GPS.
Whether or not the GPS is locked or unlocked to other programs is not dependent on it being aGPS or GPS. It's just a matter of the firmware disabling access to the radios.
RIM's website advertises the tour has having a fully capable GPS that is accessible to 3rd party software. Whether or not Verizon decides to cripple it cannot be determined by the type of GPS chip in the Tour.06-25-09 09:20 AMLike 0 - A few points:
aGPS does not use cell tower triangulation. It uses cell towers to assist in determining location, but not by means of triangulation.
Secondly, aGPS is more broad than GPS. This is to say that the aGPS in the 9630 has a fully functional standalone GPS.
Whether or not the GPS is locked or unlocked to other programs is not dependent on it being aGPS or GPS. It's just a matter of the firmware disabling access to the radios.
RIM's website advertises the tour has having a fully capable GPS that is accessible to 3rd party software. Whether or not Verizon decides to cripple it cannot be determined by the type of GPS chip in the Tour.
That said, Verizon seems to be trending towards leaving the GPS unlocked, and only locking the aGPS for VZ Nav (and BB Maps for BlackBerries). The Tour is no exception, so expect it to be exactly like the Storm, i.e. aGPS locked but GPS unlocked. Be aware that for all intents and purposes this should suit 99.9% of your navigation needs. Some people make a big fuss about aGPS, but they should realize that those big expensive Navi units you buy for your car never had aGPS.Last edited by richro; 06-25-09 at 12:19 PM.
06-25-09 09:45 AMLike 0 - So with standard GPS unlocked on the tour, we should be able to use 3rd-party apps that provide turn-by-turn directions, and we won't have to use VZNav? Not only do i not like it, it's a **** of an expensive service if you ask me...
Posted from my CrackBerry at wapforums.crackberry.com06-25-09 10:14 AMLike 0 - So with standard GPS unlocked on the tour, we should be able to use 3rd-party apps that provide turn-by-turn directions, and we won't have to use VZNav? Not only do i not like it, it's a **** of an expensive service if you ask me...
Posted from my CrackBerry at wapforums.crackberry.com06-25-09 11:22 AMLike 0 -
In reality, once GPS is fully primed, the "fix" time differences are very small... less then 2-3 seconds... and that's just for SAT locks.Last edited by JRSCCivic98; 06-25-09 at 07:13 PM.
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