[DJM626]

A has my vote

[dcaffeine8d]

A

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[c_legaspi]

My take is BlackBerry will just have less than 5 percent of tthe mobille phone and that's best case scenario. If they go android who knows

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[STV0726]

Why do I still get the feeling that people are voting what they want to happen rather than what they logically, best-mindedly think will actually happen?

Let me be explicit: just about all of us, sans trolls and those that don't understand the basic concepts of competition = better for all, want A to happen. But don't vote A if you don't think that is actually what is going to happen.

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[STV0726]

Chen makes no secret that he wants out of consumer apps, dumping even free services like Score Loop.

That's where you, in my humble opinion, go over the line where a cite or two is needed to draw that conclusion. More info please...



-STV on Z10STL100-3/10.2.1.3247 TMO US

[Heinz Katchup]

Why do I still get the feeling that people are voting what they want to happen rather than what they logically, best-mindedly think will actually happen?

Let me be explicit: just about all of us, sans trolls and those that don't understand the basic concepts of competition = better for all, want A to happen. But don't vote A if you don't think that is actually what is going to happen.

-STV on Z10STL100-3/10.2.1.3247 TMO US

When you see the glass half empty you'll get that feeling. The positive people of CrackBerry just can't help but agree with the best case scenario.

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[thurask]

B+

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[Shadowyugi]

I vote A.

It's going to either be a slow progress (I personally believe this) or spontaneous. Either way, they have their work cut out for them.

[kye2000]

I vote B

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[MarsupilamiX]

If I have a good day, I tend to B.
On a bad day, it's C.

No flagship all touch device, the move to the Amazon app store, no good midrange device (as in, affordable with specs that aren't 2 years old), no ultra cheap 100$ phone, and a focus on keyboard phones, pretty much make it impossible to say A.

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[Banco]

I'll go for A as well. I think the worst is over and while they won't suddenly surge to become massive players in the foreseeable future, there are some promising signs. The plummeting sales are from the legacy handsets, and the last quarter showed a 60% increase in BB10 sales. It's now a low base, certainly, but the falls in BBOS numbers are now unwinding and they're in position to start making a bit of progress.



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[MarsupilamiX]

I'll go for A as well. I think the worst is over and while they won't suddenly surge to become massive players in the foreseeable future, there are some promising signs. The plummeting sales are from the legacy handsets, and the last quarter showed a 60% increase in BB10 sales. It's now a low base, certainly, but the falls in BBOS numbers are now unwinding and they're in position to start making a bit of progress.

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Honestly, when you basically had no sales to begin with, 60% isn't impressive at all.

Hyperbolically, that's a situation where BlackBerry sold 0units in the beginning and then finally 1.
That's an increase of +infinity!!!!!

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[antoscimento]

I vote A

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[Banco]

Honestly, when you basically had no sales to begin with, 60% isn't impressive at all.

Hyperbolically, that's a situation where BlackBerry sold 0units in the beginning and then finally 1.
That's an increase of +infinity!!!!!

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What would you prefer, -60% sales on a low base? They are where they are, showing increased sales at that kind of level is a positive. Otherwise what's the point in getting out of bed in the morning?

Nothing can change the mess they made of things in the last few years, but BB10 outsold BBOS for the first time, and sales are going the right way. You don't need many quarters of that kind of growth for it to become highly noticeable.

[MarsupilamiX]

What would you prefer, -60% sales on a low base? They are where they are, showing increased sales at that kind of level is a positive. Otherwise what's the point in getting out of bed in the morning?

Nothing can change the mess they made of things in the last few years, but BB10 outsold BBOS for the first time, and sales are going the right way. You don't need many quarters of that kind of growth for it to become highly noticeable.

I agree with you, that it's better than -60%, but it's not THAT good.

Considering YoY growth, BlackBerry will have to show far more than that.
They want to sell 10M phones to be break-even, so we take that as their official goal.
This represents something between 0.5-0.8% marketshare this year.
Trust me, they need far more than some relatively good quarters, to be acknowledged once again.

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[Banco]

I agree with you, that it's better than -60%, but it's not THAT good.

Considering YoY growth, BlackBerry will have to show far more than that.
They want to sell 10M phones to be break-even, so we take that as their official goal.
This represents something between 0.5-0.8% marketshare this year.
Trust me, they need far more than some relatively good quarters, to be acknowledged once again.

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The YoY position is skewed by the collapse in BBOS sales. One quarter doesn't say more than about that quarter, but the point about strong growth in BB10 sales is that it changes the narrative dramatically, and indicates the potential for overall growth. No one is saying that 60% means Apple are quaking in their boots, it means it's a positive sign, particularly if such growth is maintained or (with the Z3) accelerates. They have to start somewhere, and criticising it as not being enough rather misses the obvious point that it is a case of attempting to reverse a freefall. What did you expect? 500% growth right now? It takes time to turn a company around - this is a sign of improvement.

[lovedaazn]

I wish I could vote A. But to be realistic I think B.

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[eyesopen1111]

That's where you, in my humble opinion, go over the line where a cite or two is needed to draw that conclusion. More info please...



-STV on Z10STL100-3/10.2.1.3247 TMO US

Yep, the answer is C. I was referring to the fact that Chen has given up control and direction of BB10 consumer apps to a competitor named Amazon and its Amazon app store. Do you see any of the competing OSes (iOS, Android, Windows Phone, or Fire OS) giving up the consumer side of their app stores? Of course not! Why? Because they plan to stay in the consumer side of the business. What does Chen do? He sells out to Amazon and gets rid of his developer relationship people. He is O-U-T.

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[Carrtman]

Realistically B but of course hoping and praying for A

[ronfc]

I'd go for A.

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[aha]

No idea, but hope it is A.

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[Dunt Dunt Dunt]

I vote you add this as a poll so it will provide you with the "counts".


C

It all hinges on if enterprise has been waiting for BES12....

Do think BES12 is going to be what enterprise wants.... just don't think they have been waiting for it to finial get here. Or that BlackBerry is stable enough.

[KDB84]

I vote for A.

[qbnkelt]

I vote you add this as a poll so it will provide you with the "counts".


C

It all hinges on if enterprise has been waiting for BES12....

Do think BES12 is going to be what enterprise wants.... just don't think they have been waiting for it to finial get here. Or that BlackBerry is stable enough.

They have not been waiting. You will hear near the end of the calendar year of another US federal agency refreshing their mobile fleet by moving away from BlackBerry and to either iPhone 5s or SG5/Note 3, with possibility of a Windows Phone (Icon) after a new chip that is expected December January. That's all they're waiting for.

[LP_Rigg]

C due to losing all US carrier support. And yes, the U S is not the whole world, but still drives worldwide trends