Finally RIM gets a break. Apple has problems too!
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- I would not consider that to be a "problem". The device is doing what it is designed to do. Users need to learn how to use their devices in order to avoid international charges, and also need to purchase appropriate data plans if they plan to use a lot of data.
I've used >200MB data in one day on a BlackBerry.12-09-11 11:46 AMLike 5 - Tre LawrenceBetween RealitiesI would not consider that to be a "problem". The device is doing what it is designed to do. Users need to learn how to use their devices in order to avoid international charges, and also need to purchase appropriate data plans if they plan to use a lot of data.
I've used >200MB data in one day on a BlackBerry.
avt123 likes this.12-09-11 11:49 AMLike 1 - Accidental PostSlayer of MisinformationIt's not an Apple problem it's a user issue.............and on another note iCould only backs up when connected to wifi, plugged into a charger and screen locked....
You MUST be connected to a Wifi network to start a backup......Last edited by Accidental Post; 12-09-11 at 11:56 AM.
reeneebob likes this.12-09-11 11:50 AMLike 1 - avt123O.G.I would not consider that to be a "problem". The device is doing what it is designed to do. Users need to learn how to use their devices in order to avoid international charges, and also need to purchase appropriate data plans if they plan to use a lot of data.
I've used >200MB data in one day on a BlackBerry.12-09-11 11:50 AMLike 0 -
Many ISPs also limit Internet data usage. If the ISP has a cap, and the user chooses to stream Netflix/Hulu every day or run BitTorrent 24/7 and exceeds the cap, it is not the fault of the ISP. Nor is it the fault of the PC HW/SW for allowing these applications to be run.12-09-11 12:23 PMLike 0 -
Sent from my iPhone4S using Tapatalk12-09-11 12:36 PMLike 5 - Managing the data usage is the responsibility of the user, not the device manufacturer.
Many ISPs also limit Internet data usage. If the ISP has a cap, and the user chooses to stream Netflix/Hulu every day or run BitTorrent 24/7 and exceeds the cap, it is not the fault of the ISP. Nor is it the fault of the PC HW/SW for allowing these applications to be run.
I have run heavy internet use with social feeds running and all within my old cap of 800 MB. An iPhone doing the same stuff will go to approx 1.5 - 2.0 GB. Its a users fault but Apple made the device so that carriers can profit12-09-11 12:48 PMLike 0 - yep def no surprise there, but great that they are not bashing RIM this time.
Blackberry are amazing when it comes to data, heck every month I end
up at 150-160mb and I use a lot of facebook, photobucket uploading,
youtube and of course tons of web browsing.12-09-11 01:04 PMLike 0 -
Now, could the code be written in such a way to use less data without sacrificing the user experience? I have no idea. I would think that if they could, they would have already done that.
My 9810 uses more data than my 9800 did, but that is because my browsing experience is quicker and richer. Because my browser is quick, I rely less on my computer. Hence, more data usage. However, I have this advantage...I have a grandfathered unlimited data plan.
It is not the phone, it is the user. The user has to understand that the ability to use some new "cool" features (such as Siri) comes with a price.12-09-11 01:04 PMLike 3 - Yes, I'm sure that's why they released iMessage, so the carriers can profit. I'm also sure that's why FaceTime is wi-fi only, and why they've restricted some other services to wi-fi as well, so that carriers could profit. Your argument makes perfect sense as long as you ignore all the unsupportive factsavt123 and phonejunky like this.12-09-11 01:08 PMLike 2
- Yes, I'm sure that's why they released iMessage, so the carriers can profit. I'm also sure that's why FaceTime is wi-fi only, and why they've restricted some other services to wi-fi as well, so that carriers could profit. Your argument makes perfect sense as long as you ignore all the unsupportive facts
The issue is that the device makers work hand in hand with the carriers for marketing purposes and to determine how to structure plans. They sell low data plans to make the phones appear more affordable, however this renders many of the features unusable. These are mass market devices and the majority of consumers are not particularly tech savy (myself included).12-09-11 01:18 PMLike 0 - Apple made the phone to be a communication and an entertainment device. It does do this well which means that the users will be using more data than with a phone that is less entertainment oriented. It was not created to make the carriers a profit on overcharges of data. People use more data because they are doing things to burn it up.
Now, could the code be written in such a way to use less data without sacrificing the user experience? I have no idea. I would think that if they could, they would have already done that.
My 9810 uses more data than my 9800 did, but that is because my browsing experience is quicker and richer. Because my browser is quick, I rely less on my computer. Hence, more data usage. However, I have this advantage...I have a grandfathered unlimited data plan.
It is not the phone, it is the user. The user has to understand that the ability to use some new "cool" features (such as Siri) comes with a price.
It could do better at data. Hands on12-09-11 01:18 PMLike 0 - Accidental PostSlayer of MisinformationFaceTime is not WiFi only.
The issue is that the device makers work hand in hand with the carriers for marketing purposes and to determine how to structure plans. They sell low data plans to make the phones appear more affordable, however this renders many of the features unusable. These are mass market devices and the majority of consumers are not particularly tech savy (myself included).
Do you wear a tinfoil hat too?
Hang with friends in one city. Visit family in another. Make that important meeting. And catch the game at the ballpark. With a tap, you can make video calls from your iPhone to someone else’s iPhone, iPad 2, iPod touch, or Mac over Wi-Fi.* And be there in person even when you’re not.12-09-11 01:22 PMLike 0 - FaceTime is not WiFi only.
The issue is that the device makers work hand in hand with the carriers for marketing purposes and to determine how to structure plans. They sell low data plans to make the phones appear more affordable, however this renders many of the features unusable. These are mass market devices and the majority of consumers are not particularly tech savy (myself included).
Enable FaceTime On iPhone 4 3G Network Running iOS 5.0/5.0.1 | iJailbreak.comavt123 likes this.12-09-11 01:34 PMLike 1 - FaceTime video calling added to iPhone 4... and it's WiFi-only -- Engadget
You see, not only is FaceTime wi-fi only, but it's been one of its most criticized flaws.Last edited by Economist101; 12-09-11 at 01:44 PM.
avt123 likes this.12-09-11 01:34 PMLike 1 - FaceTime video calling added to iPhone 4... and it's WiFi-only -- Engadget
You see, not only is FaceTime wi-fi only, but it's been one of its most criticized flaws.avt123 and Tre Lawrence like this.12-09-11 03:35 PMLike 2 - actually it has to do more with the fact that a lot of AT&T customers where on the unlimited data plan back then.
Now a bigger percentage of their customers are on the 200mb data plan.12-09-11 06:09 PMLike 0 - Facetime is WiFi-only, unless the user jailbreaks his iPhone. iOS: Using FaceTime
Enable FaceTime On iPhone 4 3G Network Running iOS 5.0/5.0.1 | iJailbreak.com12-09-11 06:52 PMLike 0
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