Did Apple just leave the door open for BB, Windows with iPhone 5S/C?
- I just realized that Apple only just now supports 4g in my contry with the 5S, it was never about technology or support for them09-10-13 02:43 PMLike 0
- Apple doesn't innovate, of course. Exactly what would they have to do to innovate in your eyes? A battery that lasts forever?
Please, you have no idea what you're talking about, and you're completely ignorant about apple history and technology in general. Apple wasn't the first to make a touch screen phone, nor the first to make a tablet. They were the first to be successful.
They're not the first to have fingerprint technology, but this will be the first time it's worked correctly. A year from not every phone will come out with a fingerprint scanner, including Blackberry if it's still alive.
Herre's the deal, there is nothing apple could do that would make their haters give them credit. Doesn't mean these aren't great phones, doesn't mean they won't sell like crazy. Apple is always improving, they don't have to blow people away because of their position.
Blackberry DOES need to innovate, and they are completely unable to do so, putting out phones that are irrelevant in today's market.09-10-13 02:44 PMLike 6 - Since this phone will have a 64 bit OS and Processor (unless it is running a 32 bit emulator that will basically make having 64 bit a mute point) does this mean the iPhone app ecosystem will be starting from scratch? I remember when Windows 7 64 bit came out and all the issues people had with programs not working.
If you have a 64-bit Mac, you can run 32-bit OS X apps with no issue. There is no emulator or compatibility layer needed. The 32-bit apps run perfectly natively, as I'm sure they will on iOS. Apple got it right on the Mac, why would they suddenly not know how to do this on iOS?Bsbudd and seemsixty7 like this.09-10-13 02:48 PMLike 2 - He also states consumers don't care about processor speed, but then uses megapixels as something they DO care about. MPLexus301 just spins the story any way that it makes blackberry look good an apple bad. He has no idea what he's talking about.09-10-13 02:48 PMLike 2
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To be quite honest, I was hoping that with the release of the 5S, Apple would have given me a reason to dump my Z10 but from what we saw today, I'm not there yet.09-10-13 02:54 PMLike 0 - The one positive I see in the fingerprint scanner is security. What I mean by this is there is an epidemic of Iphone thefts that law enforcement has been struggling to curb. I have seen numerous reports of unsuspecting people walking down the street in NYC fully engrossed in their phones only to have someone run up and snatch the phone from their hands and run away.
If the fingerprint scanner is truly a security feature where it can't be easily unlocked without the right fingerprint, then this will be a major selling point for many people on campuses and big cities everywhere.seemsixty7 likes this.09-10-13 02:55 PMLike 1 - If I knew how, I'd learn to care even less about what Apple does or doesn't do with their phone...cause I have a BlackBerry 10, nuff said.09-10-13 02:58 PMLike 0
- Question: When developing for Desktop systems and the difference between 32 bit and 64bit systems. Yes the 64 bit system smokes the 32 bit system when running all 64bit apps, but is actually slower when running 32 bit apps. I'm not sure if this is the case with iOS apps, but why wouldn't it be. Apple prides itself on the huge number of apps. How many of those apps are going to be recompiled for 64bit processing? It has taken years for the desktop to get a majority of programs to run in true 64bit mode and there have been a huge number of bugs issues and incompatibilities come up. Someone educate me about this in regards to iOS development. I see the 64bit processor as being a negative in reality, if the 32 bit apps run slower on it. Marketing wise with Apple's machine it won't matter until enough people complain about it much like they did with Apple Maps.
Posted via CB10Pete The Penguin likes this.09-10-13 03:04 PMLike 1 - Agreed, It appears that they've chosen to use the same chassis from the 5 for the 5s- recycle the inner hardware to the 5c-add a plastic cover, preinstall iOS7 and introduce it as new. The gaming looks awesome on the 5s, but iOS7 looks like it belongs to a power puff girl (it may be better than it looks)..doubt it. The fingerprint scanner, sounds cool, and offering free office software is a minor compromise, given the lack luster offerings and improvements. All in all, the gap has [officially] closed between android and Iphone (I would say Android is better), and there is plenty of room for BB and WP8 to close ground.09-10-13 03:08 PMLike 3
- ...if bb is aggressive with marketing? We have been saying this forever. They never market enough. Thats always been the downfall09-10-13 03:09 PMLike 4
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Posted via CB1009-10-13 03:14 PMLike 0 - The sensor size (per pixel) is really important. I'm glad that Apple keeps sticking to the point that this is more important than the number of pixels, because they are absolutely right. I think pictures on the 5S will prove that.
The fingerprint id is more convenient than putting your passcode or swipe each time, so I'm looking forward to that.
But other than that, I'm not sure the speed increases will be that much of a selling point. I think the whole upgrade from 4S/5 to 5S is small enough overall that people who are upgrade-eligible will probably at least look at Microsoft/Nokia, etc.
Sent from my iPad Mini using Tapatalk09-10-13 03:14 PMLike 2 - Wow...I read something from someone else that has me thinking. The biggest 'issue' with the 64bit os is that its only forward looking. So Apple will have to have two branches in there app store. One for 64 bit one for 32 bit. All the old hardware will not be able to support the 64 bit os. This is another strong arm 'buy' the new product move (smart sell more phones), but can introduce fragmentation. Also this could be a precursor to making one OS across all Apple devices, no more OSX. Less support means more money...all very sensible moves.09-10-13 03:19 PMLike 0
- Can't wait to try this.... except if I have a bandage on my finger.... or gloves when its cold... or when my hands are wet.... and when my hands are dirty.... or when i'm in a rush.... or when I want someone else to use my phone... or .....
just as useful as siri in a room with other people speaking...09-10-13 03:22 PMLike 0 - Can't wait to try this.... except if I have a bandage on my finger.... or gloves when its cold... or when my hands are wet.... and when my hands are dirty.... or when i'm in a rush.... or when I want someone else to use my phone... or .....
just as useful as siri in a room with other people speaking...
09-10-13 03:25 PMLike 3 - Can't wait to try this.... except if I have a bandage on my finger.... or gloves when its cold... or when my hands are wet.... and when my hands are dirty.... or when i'm in a rush.... or when I want someone else to use my phone... or .....
just as useful as siri in a room with other people speaking...
Sent from my iPad Mini using Tapatalk09-10-13 03:27 PMLike 3 - You're talking about systems where there API and/or ABI differences going from 32 to 64 bit processors. That should not be the case in going from A6 to A7. I would not expect any 32-bit app to be slower. We'll of course confirm this in a couple of weeks.
Again, for most apps I don't think this will be a major issue. There may a few exceptions, but the good thing about mobile application stores in general (not just Apples) is that you use the tool to recompile your app and upload it to the store and people see an update available. It shouldn't be a very big issue (again for most apps), especially when you consider how well defined and narrow the APIs are in a mobile OS versus a desktop one.
Again, I think that's a poor assumption. I think the apps that would benefit from 64-bit (games, instagram type apps, etc.) would probably be updated within weeks of the launch of the phone. Look how quickly everyone updated their apps for the iPhone 4 and 5 screens. Or how quickly we all supported iOS6.
It's not possible to crank clock speed in these devices. So Apple has the right idea is going wider (multiple 64-bit cores). It's hard to spin this one as a negative really.09-10-13 03:28 PMLike 0 - BlackBerry clearly has it's share of serious problems, but it seems to me that Apple just left the door open with the iPhone 5S/C announcement. Repackaging the iPhone 5 in plastic and calling it the "C", and upgrading the processor and camera technology (not hardware) and calling it the "5S" is far from the innovation that many have come to expect from Apple. Even the general consensus around my office (full of people who are iPhone users and don't know squat about phones) is "that's it?"
I'd love to see BB come out with a very aggressive campaign for the Z30, because it seems to me that the phone now has a shot in hell of looking very competitive against the iPhone.
Thoughts?09-10-13 03:30 PMLike 0 -
I think the 64bit evolution is natural, don't misunderstand that. I just think it will bite them much like it bit intel and Microsoft. It takes time to move to a new platform, whether it be underlying processor (32 bit vs 64 bit) or a complete revamp of your OS (BBOS to BB10) iOS7 will be available in 32 bit and 64 bit. 64 for the 5S and 32 bit for the 5C. Right? I see some lessons to be learned for Apple. Nothing easily avoided in this industry. It is simply a growing pain.09-10-13 03:38 PMLike 0 -
Again, we'll see how it is in 10 days...seemsixty7 likes this.09-10-13 03:39 PMLike 1
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