[ScoobyDoo555]

I've just seen reference to the new 9860 in the news.... but what is the difference between this and the Torch 2 (9810)

Apologies if it's a noob question though.

Dan

[MrLynd54]

From what I understand, the 98XX series phones are Torch lines of phones but the differences are reflected in the last 2 numbers. Depending on which carrier, and weather the phone is built GSM for say AT&T (9810) or CDMA for another carrier (9860).

[ZMc1834]

The difference between the 9810 and the 9850/9860 is that the 9810 is the 2nd generation of the Torch with slide out QWERTY keyboard; the 9850/9860 is the 1st generation(if you don't count the Storm Series) Torch all touch screen device. So if you want to think of it this way Torch 9810=Torch w/ Slider and the Torch 9850/9860=Torch All Touch

[walcolm]

The difference between the 9810 and the 9850/9860 is that the 9810 is the 2nd generation of the Torch with slide out QWERTY keyboard; the 9850/9860 is the 1st generation(if you don't count the Storm Series) Torch all touch screen device. So if you want to think of it this way Torch 9810=Torch w/ Slider and the Torch 9850/9860=Torch All Touch

by "Torch 9850/9860=Torch All Touch" does it mean the device does not have a key board like the storm series?

[GingerSnapsBack]

by "Torch 9850/9860=Torch All Touch" does it mean the device does not have a key board like the storm series?

No. The 9850/9860 Monza/Monaco will be v-keyboard only.

[ZMc1834]

No. The 9850/9860 Monza/Monaco will be v-keyboard only.

Thanks for the help ColdSunshine. As CS stated, it will have a virtual-keyboard like every other touchscreen device on the market. Just consider the Torch 9850/9860 a completely revamped, or atleast we hope, Storm.

[Fubaz]

this should clear things up
New BlackBerry devices said to be arriving at Bell before the end of August | CrackBerry.com

[GingerSnapsBack]

Screen shot from the video of the Monaco/Monza in the rumored BB section:



I'm not a fan of the raised buttons and WTF does it have a trackpad for if it's a full touch screen phone?

[Deathcommand]

9860 full touchscreen

9810 sliderrrrr.

The end.

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[ScoobyDoo555]

Sweet - confusion cleared up

Dan

[kbz1960]

Screen shot from the video of the Monaco/Monza in the rumored BB section:



I'm not a fan of the raised buttons and WTF does it have a trackpad for if it's a full touch screen phone?

Perhaps the trackpad is for better/easier selection of text etc.

[ZMc1834]

Perhaps the trackpad is for better/easier selection of text etc.

Agreed, even when I am on my iPad, I have noticed a few times in which it would have been easier to select a link with a trackpad rather than trying to tap the direct location, especially on sites with small links.

[gunderscorewil]

Screen shot from the video of the Monaco/Monza in the rumored BB section:



I'm not a fan of the raised buttons and WTF does it have a trackpad for if it's a full touch screen phone?

as was said, it's probably for text selection and it's not uncommon on smartphones.

[GingerSnapsBack]

as was said, it's probably for text selection and it's not uncommon on smartphones.

Meh. Whatever rubs your Buddah. IMO, it's redundant to have a touch screen AND a track pad. I do miss the track pad from my Curve, but it's easier for me at least to "pinch" the text on the phone and move my fingers out to highlight what I want.

[southlander]

I'm not a fan of the raised buttons and WTF does it have a trackpad for if it's a full touch screen phone?

The trackpad gives much more precise control and also allows you to select on screen controls without your finger obscuring the view.
Touch is fine for apps but clumsy on websites that are not designed to work well with touch only.

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[sportline]

what;s the screen? 4.3" super amoled? 3.7" ? 4?

[_StephenBB81]

what;s the screen? 4.3" super amoled? 3.7" ? 4?

Screen looks to be a hair larger than the iPhone 4, being 3.7-inch 800 x 480 capacitive display