Chen's venture to android soul purpose was to kill the hardware division it's clear now
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- Chen's job was (and still is) to save the company and turn it into a profit-earning business. If that means focusing on software and axing hardware, that's what will happen. Any CEO that continues to dump money into a unit that isn't turning a profit and has no expectation to do so in the future is abdicating his primary job to the shareholders. Anyone claiming that Chen "had an agenda to get rid of the handset business" is implying that he intentionally discarded the interests of the shareholders for his own selfish interests in order to prove some point that some here keep claiming he wanted to make. The "easier" conclusion (which some are all too eager to draw) is that Chen is a moron - which seems to run counter to his performance at SAP. However, I also realize it's 2016 and the era of instant gratification and immediate results with accompanying knee-jerk reactions and analysis is alive and well - and actual facts get discarded for opinions that must be right because "I think, therefore it is."
People can whine about "coulda, woulda, shoulda" until the lights go out, but none of that changes anything about the past - not the facts that were present, or the decisions that were made. You can't base decisions based on "what could/should have been" unless you want to risk betting the farm; you have to deal with the present situation and plan accordingly. I don't know why all of that is so hard to accept, but ... well, yeah I do. See above. People can even whine and complain about what should be done going forward - and any "obvious conclusions" drawn from such armchair analysis are worth approximately a warm pitcher of spit.
If hardware goes away because it's not making money, it goes away. It won't be the first time a company bailed on what was an immensely profitable unit, and it won't be the last. Mattel bailed on home gaming systems, Sony gave up on the Walkman when it quit turning a profit; IBM moved out of typewriters, etc. etc. etc. If you can't change focus and insist on plowing money into something losing money knowing it's likely to keep losing money, there's a bankruptcy court with the company's name on it somewhere. Maybe that's what some people would like to see; myself, I'd prefer the company to live to fight another day.02-24-16 08:16 PMLike 9 - BB10 may be dead for the consumer, but it would be foolish for blackberry to kill off the hardware business completely. It's crucial for end to end security. No matter how much they patch android and secure it, it will never be as secure as a blackberry device running a blackberry OS. I think in the future, BB10 phones will only be available to companies willing to pray a premium for top-notch security.
Posted via CB10BallRockReaper likes this.02-24-16 08:39 PMLike 1 -
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- Chen's job was (and still is) to save the company and turn it into a profit-earning business. If that means focusing on software and axing hardware, that's what will happen. Any CEO that continues to dump money into a unit that isn't turning a profit and has no expectation to do so in the future is abdicating his primary job to the shareholders. Anyone claiming that Chen "had an agenda to get rid of the handset business" is implying that he intentionally discarded the interests of the shareholders for his own selfish interests in order to prove some point that some here keep claiming he wanted to make. The "easier" conclusion (which some are all too eager to draw) is that Chen is a moron - which seems to run counter to his performance at SAP. However, I also realize it's 2016 and the era of instant gratification and immediate results with accompanying knee-jerk reactions and analysis is alive and well - and actual facts get discarded for opinions that must be right because "I think, therefore it is."
People can whine about "coulda, woulda, shoulda" until the lights go out, but none of that changes anything about the past - not the facts that were present, or the decisions that were made. You can't base decisions based on "what could/should have been" unless you want to risk betting the farm; you have to deal with the present situation and plan accordingly. I don't know why all of that is so hard to accept, but ... well, yeah I do. See above. People can even whine and complain about what should be done going forward - and any "obvious conclusions" drawn from such armchair analysis are worth approximately a warm pitcher of spit.
If hardware goes away because it's not making money, it goes away. It won't be the first time a company bailed on what was an immensely profitable unit, and it won't be the last. Mattel bailed on home gaming systems, Sony gave up on the Walkman when it quit turning a profit; IBM moved out of typewriters, etc. etc. etc. If you can't change focus and insist on plowing money into something losing money knowing it's likely to keep losing money, there's a bankruptcy court with the company's name on it somewhere. Maybe that's what some people would like to see; myself, I'd prefer the company to live to fight another day.02-28-16 01:14 PMLike 2 - DenverRalphyRetired Network ModChen's "sole" purpose in the Android venture, was because the hardware division has been on life support for far too long already, and all other methods of resuscitation ended in failure. The Android venture is just an experimental medicine as a Hail Mary attempt to revive it since all other available options had proven ineffective.02-28-16 02:35 PMLike 3
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- Chen's soul purpose was to make the shareholders money, as that is all that matters. If he can make BB profitable he will kill hardware. If there is no chance to make money on hardware, he will quit doing it. Its pretty simple really.02-28-16 05:28 PMLike 3
- I don't understand why everyone is fixated on shareholders. Even if they were private, you wouldn't keep pumping resources in a non-money maker.
Posted via CB1002-28-16 05:49 PMLike 0 - It wouldn't be the first time. There are major establishments that axed their handset division but are still around...
Ericsson
Siemens
Bosch
Nokia (?)
*ME173Xneoberry99 likes this.02-28-16 05:50 PMLike 1 - Hey, let's release a hybrid keyboard slab phone with no unique security features running a two generation old android OS and price it at 700...what could go wrong. This was not designed to succeed.boysontheblock and acovey like this.02-28-16 10:40 PMLike 2
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Posted via CB1002-28-16 11:15 PMLike 0 -
Those are all in the Nortel category with multiple products in different fields. BlackBerry at its peak was a single product company: handsets, and it's a much younger company than those.acovey likes this.02-29-16 05:59 AMLike 1 - Everyone wants them to smash it out of the park, but Chen is taking the money ball approach.
Small incremental improvement, mathematically better by just a bit. Carrier support has ticked up, Android will improve the demand part of the equation, again just slightly. They only need a marginal improvement on all aspects of the hardware side to call it a success.
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