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  1. DolemiteDONS's Avatar
    06-23-16 10:55 AM
  2. Dunt Dunt Dunt's Avatar
    Chen also insisted that 2015 would be a growth year for BlackBerry.... yet they laid off people and revenues fell overall.

    He is a salesman, trying to sell a product... BlackBerry the company, to investors.

    Too be honest I don't know if he can make the smartphone business profitable... what I do expect is that it will have to happen with fewer than 2 Million devcies a YEAR, and will be a slow process of getting these customers to switch from BBOS/BB10 to Android.
    Last edited by Dunt Dunt Dunt; 06-24-16 at 01:38 PM.
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    06-23-16 11:27 AM
  3. Drenegade's Avatar
    Chen also insisted that 2015 would be a growth year for BlackBerry.... yet they laid off people and revenues fell overall.

    He is a salesman, trying to sell a product... BlackBerry the company, to investors.

    Too be honest I don't know if he can make the smartphone business profitable... what I do expect is that it will have to happen with fewer than 2 Million devcies a quarter, and will be a slow process of getting these customers to switch from BBOS/BB10 to Android.
    2 million devices per quarter? They would be delighted at that. At this rate, we're lucky to see just 1 million devices sold PER YEAR!

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    06-23-16 02:00 PM
  4. JeepBB's Avatar
    2 million devices per quarter? They would be delighted at that. At this rate, we're lucky to see just 1 million devices sold PER YEAR!

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    I reckon DDD made a typo

    500k x 4 quarters = 2M per year.

    I agree with the rest of his post though - Chen is talking things up. It's his job, he's CEO.
    TgeekB, TGR1, kirson and 1 others like this.
    06-23-16 03:17 PM
  5. John Vieira's Avatar
    Honestly, unless something fantastic happens, this is one less Blackberry customer.

    I was willing to stick for the quality of products and commitment to them. But they don't have either one anymore.

    They also charge way too much money for them. Other companies are making better products for a lower price.

    Posted via a Priv on an 6.0 Mushroom
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    06-23-16 03:35 PM
  6. Sairos's Avatar
    I was willing to stick for the quality of products and commitment to them. But they don't have either one anymore.
    The products still have high quality.
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    06-23-16 03:40 PM
  7. anon(1852343)'s Avatar
    But its android now

    Blackberry Passport Running 10.3.2.2813
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    06-23-16 03:43 PM
  8. John Vieira's Avatar
    The products still have high quality.
    Passport screen lifting, double typing, and Priv creaking and groaning and screen clicking.

    No, the products are no longer high quality.

    Posted via a Priv on an 6.0 Mushroom
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    06-23-16 04:25 PM
  9. Sairos's Avatar
    Passport screen lifting, double typing, and Priv creaking and groaning and screen clicking.

    No, the products are no longer high quality.

    Posted via a Priv on an 6.0 Mushroom
    I don't think it was reported by Tech reviewers that the phones struggle from build quality.. However I do agree that the pricing is bad and the competition offers better pricing.. But you got to excuse them for their struggle.. They can't compete with the Chinese for several reasons.. Now they're outsourcing the phone making, so you will see better specs and pricing in the next two android devices.

    Plus, BlackBerry offers this personal touch that's lacking in any other device.. All the phones out there are bunch of generic big screen phones. You probably can't tell them apart from a few meters in a Cell phones store.. But every BlackBerry device is personal and feels different.. You kinda Miss the phone when you stop using it.. Give the two android devices a chance..
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    06-23-16 04:39 PM
  10. John Vieira's Avatar
    I don't think it was reported by Tech reviewers that the phones struggle from build quality.. However I do agree that the pricing is bad and the competition offers better pricing.. But you got to excuse them for their struggle.. They can't compete with the Chinese for several reasons.. Now they're outsourcing the phone making, so you will see better specs and pricing in the next two android devices.

    Plus, BlackBerry offers this personal touch that's lacking in any other device.. All the phones out there are bunch of generic big screen phones. You probably can't tell them apart from a few meters in a Cell phones store.. But every BlackBerry device is personal and feels different.. You kinda Miss the phone when you stop using it.. Give the two android devices a chance..
    I don't need it to be reported. I owned both the passport, and I own a Priv. I suffered through screen lifting, and the creaking and groaning.

    The only personal touch I've seen from blackberry is a decline in quality along with their cost cutting.

    I won't give the new android devices a chance because I'm not in the market for a downgrade.

    At 400USD, probably 550CAD, I can just pick up a one plus 3 or any high end huawei.

    I understand WHY blackberry can't competed on specs/price. But that doesn't mean I have to put up with it.

    Posted via a Priv on an 6.0 Mushroom
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    06-23-16 06:41 PM
  11. Sairos's Avatar
    I don't need it to be reported. I owned both the passport, and I own a Priv. I suffered through screen lifting, and the creaking and groaning.

    The only personal touch I've seen from blackberry is a decline in quality along with their cost cutting.

    I won't give the new android devices a chance because I'm not in the market for a downgrade.

    At 400USD, probably 550CAD, I can just pick up a one plus 3 or any high end huawei.

    I understand WHY blackberry can't competed on specs/price. But that doesn't mean I have to put up with it.

    Posted via a Priv on an 6.0 Mushroom
    Okay Mate.. You know where the door is.. Farewell.
    06-23-16 07:03 PM
  12. TgeekB's Avatar
    I don't think it was reported by Tech reviewers that the phones struggle from build quality.. However I do agree that the pricing is bad and the competition offers better pricing.. But you got to excuse them for their struggle.. They can't compete with the Chinese for several reasons.. Now they're outsourcing the phone making, so you will see better specs and pricing in the next two android devices.

    Plus, BlackBerry offers this personal touch that's lacking in any other device.. All the phones out there are bunch of generic big screen phones. You probably can't tell them apart from a few meters in a Cell phones store.. But every BlackBerry device is personal and feels different.. You kinda Miss the phone when you stop using it.. Give the two android devices a chance..
    That's the thing. If you're going to sell a device for $700, it had better be top of the line.
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    06-24-16 06:41 AM
  13. TGR1's Avatar
    I reckon DDD made a typo

    500k x 4 quarters = 2M per year.

    I agree with the rest of his post though - Chen is talking things up. It's his job, he's CEO.
    Agreed. Until software and services can soak up the difference and then some, he can't abandon hardware.
    06-24-16 08:05 AM
  14. NG888's Avatar
    Okay Mate.. You know where the door is.. Farewell.
    Grt attitude, I hope BlackBerry doesn't share your sentiment towards customers.

    Posted via the CrackBerry App for Android
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    06-24-16 08:40 AM
  15. schumi_xtreme01's Avatar
    I don't need it to be reported. I owned both the passport, and I own a Priv. I suffered through screen lifting, and the creaking and groaning.

    The only personal touch I've seen from blackberry is a decline in quality along with their cost cutting.

    I won't give the new android devices a chance because I'm not in the market for a downgrade.

    At 400USD, probably 550CAD, I can just pick up a one plus 3 or any high end huawei.

    I understand WHY blackberry can't competed on specs/price. But that doesn't mean I have to put up with it.

    Posted via a Priv on an 6.0 Mushroom
    adios end your suffering...

    Posted via CB10
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    06-24-16 09:29 AM
  16. JeepBB's Avatar
    Grt attitude, I hope BlackBerry doesn't share your sentiment towards customers.

    Posted via the CrackBerry App for Android
    Sadly, given the ease with which BB abandoned the BBOS guys (30M of them), the Playbook guys (2M?), and later the BB10 guys (10M?); I think BlackBerry *does* share that sentiment.

    Personally, I think the BB Android guys are next to be abandoned. It just hasn't happened ... yet.
    06-24-16 10:20 AM
  17. togarika's Avatar
    I hope BlackBerry has plans to release a BB10 in the near future.

    BlackBerry BB10 forever
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    06-24-16 10:30 AM
  18. kirson's Avatar
    I hope BlackBerry has plans to release a BB10 in the near future.

    BlackBerry BB10 forever
    I think the next BB10 device will be release shortly after the next BBOS device and immediately after the next Playbook...
    06-24-16 10:40 AM
  19. landorghini's Avatar
    I think spending any type of money on the Android is a waste, especially when you OS is being supported by higher ups and they still need updates not just certifications..but actual patches and/or improvements. Just 3 good devices: low tier (classic), mid tier (full touch z60), and high tier (full touch blackberry passport 3)

    Invest in yourselves and not others
    06-24-16 10:41 AM
  20. Dunt Dunt Dunt's Avatar
    I think spending any type of money on the Android is a waste, especially when you OS is being supported by higher ups and they still need updates not just certifications..but actual patches and/or improvements. Just 3 good devices: low tier (classic), mid tier (full touch z60), and high tier (full touch blackberry passport 3)

    Invest in yourselves and not others
    Android gives them a chance... BB10 had it's shot and failed.
    Sairos likes this.
    06-24-16 11:21 AM
  21. kirson's Avatar
    Android gives them a chance... BB10 had it's shot and failed.
    BB10 had it's shot and failed = sad, but true.

    Android gives them a chance = sad.
    06-24-16 01:10 PM
  22. Dunt Dunt Dunt's Avatar
    BB10 had it's shot and failed = sad, but true.

    Android gives them a chance = sad.
    I think PKB users would rather have the option of Android than no option at all....

    But yeah after those early years of us mocking Android, it's tough to eat crow.... But the truth is Android has become a stable platform, depending on how you set it up it can even be a pretty secure/private platform.
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    06-24-16 01:41 PM
  23. kvndoom's Avatar
    I think the next BB10 device will be release shortly after the next BBOS device and immediately after the next Playbook...
    I for one cannot WAIT to not buy the next Playbook!

    Passport SE, "The BlockBerry" - Cricket Wireless
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    06-24-16 01:52 PM
  24. Asvertus's Avatar
    Grt attitude, I hope BlackBerry doesn't share your sentiment towards customers.

    Posted via the CrackBerry App for Android
    They DO it right now.

    "U want an BB10 phone? Get our Android Phones or leave!" that's BlackBerry now.

    Posted via CB10
    06-24-16 02:00 PM
  25. kirson's Avatar
    I think PKB users would rather have the option of Android than no option at all....

    But yeah after those early years of us mocking Android, it's tough to eat crow.... But the truth is Android has become a stable platform, depending on how you set it up it can even be a pretty secure/private platform.
    All kidding aside, I agree with you 100%. Unfortunately, I am on Sprint.
    06-24-16 02:04 PM
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