Carrier IQ (spyware?) is on Blackberry's too?!
- Sith_ApprenticeMod Team EmeritusGoogle Nexus Android phones and original Xoom tablet do not include Carrier IQ tracking software | The Verge
Won't comment on iOS.
The carriers can and *do* modify Android though-that's what I'm implying.
Also http://blog.chpwn.com has the iOS info12-01-11 08:39 AMLike 0 - DenverRalphyRetired Network ModVZW, O2, and Vodafone UK, have already confirmed their devices don't contain CIQ.
Glad I'm with VZW.
Sent from my ADR6300 using Tapatalk12-01-11 09:48 AMLike 0 - These Are the Phones We're Pretty Sure Don't Have Carrier IQ
All Verizon phones
All Nokia handsets
All Windows Phones
All Vodafone Phones
All O2 Phones
Google Nexus phones (Google Nexus One, Nexus S, Galaxy Nexus)
Original Xoom12-01-11 10:02 AMLike 0 -
I don't believe RIM gives out its "3" signing key to anyone either - it's required to use powerful, undocumented backdoor APIs only RIM has access to.12-01-11 10:09 AMLike 0 - This is encouraging, but might the code be on there somewhere else if it was installed another way? You downloaded it yourself, so it got placed like any other application.
Just trying to cover all bases. This story is too troubling and there's been too much silence from RIM and too many lawyers from Carrier IQ and statements from Sprint that don't backup what Trevor found. The reason I stay with RIM is security.
Good to see this helpful thread after tracking this story for a week and no decent Blackberry explanations anywhere...12-01-11 10:12 AMLike 0 -
- DenverRalphyRetired Network Mod
LOL. Some research helps.12-01-11 10:21 AMLike 0 - DenverRalphyRetired Network Mod[edit]deleted... wasn't thinking straight and question was moot.
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12-01-11 10:23 AMLike 0 -
To me that doesnt categorically state that the software isnt on their phones, only that they dont collect any data from them. Mr Eckhart has already proven that although Carrier IQ deny collecting any keystrokes, etc...that they infact are!
Vodafone UK on the other hand have stated it does not use Carrier IQ in any of its businesses, and does not use any other software like it, and it adheres strictly to privacy regulations in the jurisdictions where it operates.
paidContent:UK - Mobile12-01-11 10:49 AMLike 0 - I read this article from RT News and its a youtube link with a android programmer explaining the issue on a htc phone.
Smartphone spyware keystroke conspiracy — RT
But I guess a BB programmer can do the same thing?
Monitor different phones on wi-fi, 3g, keymapping etc sent to CIQ.
Posted from my CrackBerry at wapforums.crackberry.com12-01-11 10:56 AMLike 0 -
- Tre LawrenceBetween Realities
Research In Motion said on Thursday that it does not install or authorize its carrier partners to install, "Carrier IQ" software on its BlackBerry smartphones.12-01-11 11:25 AMLike 0 - RIM says it's not on our BlackBerries:
Great news!
RIM says Carrier IQ software not for BlackBerry | Reuters
Posted from my CrackBerry at wapforums.crackberry.com12-01-11 11:27 AMLike 0 - N8ter,
RIM has made an official statement that they never put it on their devices nor do they authorize or have ever authorized carriers to do so. However, your company may do that or other big brother stuff as they see fit.
So, for regular users, I believe we are clear of this one. Still, even BB is vulnerable if you download stuff to your phone from questionable sources.
I suggest people consider using a PW for access to the phone and also for any dowloads. That way, no one can swipe your phone for a minute or two and then put it back after they downloaded malware.
Most of us don't do any James Bond stuff but some people do this kind of stuff for fun so protect yourself with the following steps:
1. Get a BlackBerry phone.
2. Activate Passwords for access and downloads (eight or more number letter combos is recommended)
3. Never download something from an unknown and trusted source.
If you do this, (RIM has a 10 year track record/history of not being breached. Every other major platform has) you should be just fine and secure.12-01-11 11:28 AMLike 0 - It's been a long time since I've posted, mainly because my other posts were about stripping bbos down and removing languages from presigned cods.
What I will say is that while making custom firmware (hybrids) for my girlfriend, I noticed carrieriq being referenced without even opening the cod as a container(zip) (you can view them in notepad). I did not know what it was so I never said anything(I was looking for languages and media/resource data within cods to remove).
Point is, it's there.12-01-11 11:59 AMLike 0 - DenverRalphyRetired Network ModI know this doesn't apply to BB's. But if any Android users are following this thread, and your phone is rooted, supposedly you can use Bloat Freezer to disable CIQ.12-01-11 12:00 PMLike 0
- Now, while I'm more inclined to believe RIM, I don't see the incentive for Eckhart to say that Carrier IQ is installed on BlackBerry and even Nokia phones, even when their respective companies deny it being there. When RIM says it denies authorization to the application, can the carriers do it anyway? I wish Trevor would do a second video, this time on a BlackBerry to prove this software exists, pre-installed without the end-user's knowledge, and is logging everything it does on the Android version.
Also, any word on whether this program is being used by AT&T or T-Mobile?12-01-11 12:09 PMLike 0 - For it being on the Blackberry: Pics [or video] or it isn't there.
I saw the Android video, and I have not seen any proof that it exists on Blackberry at all. RIM's statements seems solid, and even though corporate speak I trust them this time. Show us the goods on BB, Eckhart.12-01-11 12:30 PMLike 0 - I would speculate that WP7 not having it is simply because the they simply haven't developed it yet. AFAIK, WP7 phones don't restrict the carriers from putting their own software on the device. Apple is the only company that restricts any bloatware from being put on their devices.
It's not a matter of how secure an OS is. If the software is allowed to be installed, it can be done. Regardless of brand or OS.12-01-11 12:37 PMLike 0 - Tre LawrenceBetween RealitiesI know this doesn't apply to BB's. But if any Android users are following this thread, and your phone is rooted, supposedly you can use Bloat Freezer to disable CIQ.12-01-11 12:38 PMLike 0
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- Sith_ApprenticeMod Team EmeritusNow, while I'm more inclined to believe RIM, I don't see the incentive for Eckhart to say that Carrier IQ is installed on BlackBerry and even Nokia phones, even when their respective companies deny it being there. When RIM says it denies authorization to the application, can the carriers do it anyway? I wish Trevor would do a second video, this time on a BlackBerry to prove this software exists, pre-installed without the end-user's knowledge, and is logging everything it does on the Android version.
Also, any word on whether this program is being used by AT&T or T-Mobile?
Not on AT&T or Verizon that I have seen. ALso, ANY user can install this themselves.
Carrier IQ Agent for Blackberry
there you go, happy installing lol
So yes, it CAN be on BlackBerry devices, just does ship on them.12-01-11 12:46 PMLike 0 -
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