1. localexpat's Avatar
    Saw this on Macrumors, thought it would be interesting to discuss. Did the NSA hack Blackberries?

    NSA Was Able to Capture Live Data From Compromised iPhones in 2008, Including Live Camera, GPS, and More - Mac Rumors
    12-31-13 06:37 AM
  2. SEAWARRIOR's Avatar
    i think any platform can be compromised if they try hard enough,,, it's just more difficult on a BB,,, the tools those Not So Anonymous guys have are pretty slick...
    12-31-13 07:51 AM
  3. FFR's Avatar
    12-31-13 08:20 AM
  4. Poirots Progeny's Avatar
    Not So Anonymous.

    Class

    And look, this topic has been done to death. Anything can be broken any number of ways. If someone wants something from you theyll move the earth to get it. Those boys have the budget.

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    12-31-13 08:40 AM
  5. jpvj's Avatar
    Well - I already did a long post about excactly this screenshot so I will make it short:
    the "CMIME" keyword indicates the email was transmitted through BIS, which by design is ... less secure ... The secure solution is called BES.

    There is no evidence the email has been captured "on the fly" (wiretapped, decrypted and SRP stream decoded). It might as well has been extracted from a BlackBerry device.

    This situation is very different today: Non-BES users are using standard email protocols with standard encryption. All the protocols are very well described, and as you might have read from the Snowden leak, it seems that NSA has used quite a lot of money trying to weaken the actual encryption implementations. I have no knowledge if it is true or not, and if it is which products have been affected.

    Basically all smartphones using same protocol and encryption are equal hard/easy to wiretap, because they work the same way.

    BB10 can be used with a BES10 server adding another layer of encryption to the Exchange Active Sync traffic. If you assume BlackBerry are not evil and have implemented the AES algorithm correctly and AES is still a secure way of encrypting data, this could be a secure path to choose.

    So the answer is not black and white.
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    12-31-13 09:55 AM
  6. SamFromDowntown's Avatar
    The best source of information we have here is Snowden and from Snowden we know that BES is very tough to crack. See here:

    Report: UK and US spies have cracked BlackBerry's BES encryption - Blackberry, Apple, security, U.S. National Security Agency, government - Good Gear Guide by PC World Australia

    According to this source, it takes a "sustained, targeted attack" to crack it. This means no dragnet spying on BES.

    This is very different than what we now know about iPhones, where, as we learned from the Chaos conference yesterday, that there is 100% success rates in implanting malware into iPhones that can sniff all traffic, implant files, hijack camera and microphones.

    And you wondered why BlackBerry kept saying its customers wanted BB to keep making hardware?
    12-31-13 10:36 AM
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    12-31-13 06:28 PM

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