1. jimmylee1974's Avatar
    hi guys,

    I am jimmy from singapore. was in the queue to buy a 9700 at Singtel, and the guys there say I HAVE TO BUY the BIS if i need to recieve emails on my phone.

    I am not talking about pushmail, i dont need that. on my E72, I can just connect anytime i want to recieve and send emails (not pushmail). all these with just a regular data plan.

    Can the BB9700 do that without the Blackberry service?

    i have been wanting to get the 9700, but i dont need the mails to be pushed to me, so am not willing to pay monthly subs for the extra service.
    05-31-10 05:37 AM
  2. mjbesen310's Avatar
    You need BIS or BES in order to have a Blackberry. Your buying a Blackberry, therefore you need to buy BIS to get your service from them...
    05-31-10 06:06 AM
  3. jimmylee1974's Avatar
    You need BIS or BES in order to have a Blackberry. Your buying a Blackberry, therefore you need to buy BIS to get your service from them...
    if thats the case, isnt Blackberry email a whole load of ****? especially to access my personal email, not corporate.

    I can access email on a E72 or a Iphone anytime, without this BIS thingy.

    So please tell me, other that the push mail thing, and combined mailbox thing, Whats the BIG DEAL about BB email client then? vs E72 or even an Iphone???

    I really need to know
    05-31-10 07:15 AM
  4. hakeem23's Avatar
    Follow this instruction to enable internet on your bb w/o BIS: bb.anworm.com and then you can just check your mail via web or install shangmail. Consider yourself lucky living in Spore with BB Service while me here in Brunei, there's no BB Service. So why not just subscribe the BIS? Use the prepaid as a start

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    05-31-10 07:28 AM
  5. kbz1960's Avatar
    You still had to pay for a data plan with your E72? If so it's no different (maybe cheaper) then paying for the bb data plan BIS.
    05-31-10 07:28 AM
  6. jimmylee1974's Avatar
    can some kind soul tell me how does a blackberry benefit a customer like me?

    - i used my personal email regularly, i am currently using E72 and synchronise my email whenever i need (i have an existing data plan in place)

    - I dont need push mail ( not important)

    - i travel abroad for work at times, and i need to access my email.

    Regards,
    05-31-10 07:34 AM
  7. BigBadWulf's Avatar
    BlackBerries are designed as a very secure smartphone, and all data is routed through the RIM servers. You can use a 3rd party browser such as Bolt, and then with a basic data plan access your email through it's site, ie Yahoo. The native browser wouldn't work without BIS, nor BBM or pushed email. The point of having a BlackBerry to most is those features and security. Also, if your carrier realizes you have a BlackBerry, they could very well force a BB data plan on you. They certainly do in the States.

    Edit - You also would find it impossible to install applications via the device, or use almost any of them




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    Last edited by BigBadWulf; 05-31-10 at 07:47 AM.
    05-31-10 07:44 AM
  8. jimmylee1974's Avatar
    thanks. will that mean it takes longer to recieve my mail, since it has to be routed thru RIM's servers?

    What do you mean, impposible to install applications?

    I presume i can install everthing in the App World right?




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    05-31-10 08:02 AM
  9. a_silent_song's Avatar
    Email on BIS is usually instant. You would not be able to use email, internet, BlackBerry Messenger, etc without a BIS plan. You also would not be able to install from App World without a BIS plan either, as it's a requirement and will detect that you're not running the proper data plan to access it.

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    05-31-10 08:06 AM
  10. BigBadWulf's Avatar
    The push emails through RIM are almost instant, and regularly beat my PC.
    All apps would need BB data to function, as does AppWorld. If you're using it on your device, your carrier sees that data, and will catch you.
    Out of curiousity, what's the cost difference between the data package you now have, and the BlackBerry package?




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    05-31-10 08:09 AM
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