[djdragon]

I just need to correct this a bit. Almost every illegal streaming site I use is 100% flash Just saying

And porn site. Now you know why people are freaking over the loss of Flash.

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[gfondeur]

Lol
That so Damn truth

[jtv1]

So iPhone has the best battery life.

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Hold on; Is using flash all about the battery usage or about being able to view certain films on your mobile Ummmmm?

jtvberry

[aha]

Hold on; Is using flash all about the battery usage or about being able to view certain films on your mobile Ummmmm?

jtvberry

I would not deny that many interesting sites on Internet only provide video services in flash technology at this point and a healthy amount of them are consumed by me on my mobile devices regularly... but I am talking about ill-funded school and library systems that only have primitive sites developed over many years based on flash technology. Many many children and parents can't check their homework assignment on their mobile devices because their iPhone or droids don't supported it anymore, now do we have to suffer the same fate? That?s a bigger question than how we entertain ourselves, is it not?

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[jtv1]

I would not deny that many interesting sites on Internet only provide video services in flash technology at this point and a healthy amount of them are consumed by me on my mobile devices regularly... but I am talking about ill-funded school and library systems that only have primitive sites developed over many years based on flash technology. Many many children and parents can't check their homework assignment on their mobile devices because their iPhone or droids don't supported it anymore, now do we have to suffer the same fate? That?s a bigger question than how we entertain ourselves, is it not?

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This is the problem, you hit it on the head.
Where our devices are based on enterprise and business, you would think that we would find a way to implement both HTML whatever and Flash, for the sake of easy migration and at best to continue a business running seamlessly.

Business now and in the future, will depend on the children being able to take part in the infrastructure of any nation in the future, if the chance is not pulled away from them at birth.

jtvberry

[Kris Simundson]

And porn site. Now you know why people are freaking over the loss of Flash.

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Actually they all converted to html 5 earlier this year, so have both players in place so if you don't have flash it goes auto to html 5

Port industry loves to adopt the latest and greatest tech, aka blu ray

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[jtv1]

Actually they all converted to html 5 earlier this year, so have both players in place so if you don't have flash it goes auto to html 5

Port industry loves to adopt the latest and greatest tech, aka blu ray

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Now where getting somewhere, building something.

All the mayhem and destruction has just been making me feel ever-so-sad, and it just ain't right to throw away recyclbes

jtvberry

[jtv1]

For the last few days I have noticed that my third party app BBC IPlayer or browser in watching any TV programme, has been rather grainy on both my BlackBerry PlayBook and Z10, only to change to a clear picture whenever it's ready.

Is this part of the change over from flash to htlm5

jtvberry

[robsteve]

One of the problems with the HTML5 feeds is they don't tend to have the quality for HDMI output to a TV. It seems a lot of these feeds are intended for phones or tablets with smaller screens. When you hit the full screen option, the quality is awful. With flash, it seem to match the quality to the screen size.

For example, when the Breeders cup was on a few weeks ago, we didn't have cable TV where we were and we tried it via the website. It had a free live stream, which was flash. We got this to work on my Passport and then used the Slimport to TV. It worked. Meanwhile I tried the site on a PlayBook. The flash site was very slow to load and gave an option of another feed, which I assumed was HTML5. This stream worked, but was pretty small. Eventually I got the PlayBook working on Flash, hooked it to the TV and went full screen, high def.

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This was not my only experience where I have seen non-Flash options and they were of lower quality than the Flash options. In addition, some of the Apps, such as the one for Bell, will disable HDMI output because they do not want you streaming it to a TV, just on the phone.

The loss of flash may have more to do with media and licensing. We saw this initially with the PlayBook when some Flash sites (Hulu) were disabled for the PlayBook because their content was not licensed for tablet use. I assume when media is licensed, the licensee, has to choose which transmission methods it wants to license and pay accordingly.

[jtv1]

I have noticed for about two weeks now, I believe you call it "Using Live Stream", while watching a BBC live programme (British Broadcasting Cooperation) my PlayBook started stalling, even to the point of stopping the programme completely.
The smooth picture has been becoming grainy being able to see the screen pixels.
A point comes where a flash, film negative shows and even volume is lost.

But what surprised me was the fact that the age difference between the PlayBook and the OS10, had no bearing.
This is happening on both OS devices.

Battery usage is not the issue here and should not be even mentioned till the efforts to update or upgrade are solved.

I would say, I am using the Bluetooth features on my PlayBook on my Samsung 2560w Giga Sound System but I do not believe this should bear on our devices delivering.

jtvberry

[deadcowboy]

It's too bad, but Flash is a dead technology filled with security holes. HTML5 please. I have no love for Flash. Though it was convenient.

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[Supa_Fly1]

Dear simu31

Adobe have 4 applications well 5.

Reader, Flash, AIR, ShockWave and Connect.
As far as I know, these are free everywhere and no matter which device.

I have heard of there being vulnerabilities with Adobe apps and also Java, but certain browsers and apps won't function without them, as far as I understand.Win

Non of the other browsers, "Google Chrome" for example, do use flash but Google Chrome team control the updates so it runs in the background without your knowledge.
Because flash is embedded. The same can be said for Win8 and 8.1

jtvberry

Flash is a plug-in not imbedded never has never will be! Too many security holes!

BlackBerry - Accept no substitute. Period!

[mnc76]

Sad news A lot of streaming sites are flash based and thx to BB10 I am able to stream that on my TV via hdmi..

Exactly. There are still tons of useful sites that use Flash. Many news sites still use proprietary flash based players.

Many sites have specialty apps for viewing video content on iPhone's (and sometimes Android), but not BlackBerry. Flash was a way for BlackBerry users to still access this content without needing a special app (i.e.: a special app that doesn't and may never exist for BlackBerry phones).

Until they all switch, the removal of Flash is a bad move for my BlackBerry web experience

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[spike12]

Flash was a way for BlackBerry users to still access this content without needing a special app (i.e.: a special app that doesn't and may never exist for BlackBerry phones).
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In my opinion I think this is the main reason that flash is important to blackberry users.. It helped fill the gap when no app was in place especially to view streaming media.

[mnc76]

This isn't the best example if a useful site but

No Flash on.



With Flash turned on.


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[southlander]

HTML 5 is the future.

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It always is. Lol. (kidding).

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[southlander]

This isn't the best example if a useful site but

No Flash on.



With Flash turned on.


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Isn't part of the problem that the browsers user agent can't be changed? I mean if you visit a Web site that's coded to not need flash when say an iOS or Android device hits it, then the user agent will need to be set to one of those to get the content served correctly. It would seem?

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[mnc76]

Again, not the best example, but note that there is a People magazine app for the iPhone.

Without Flash, BlackBerry users have no way to watch videos on people.com.




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[rocker_man1]

No It's not DEAD... I need it to watch Live streams that still are all flash, and if they kill flash I won't be able to watch live streams any more... When live streams change to HTML5, kill flash as you wish.

Flash is being phased out, but there's still plenty of websites that use the, so I still want it. Kill it when nothing is using it.

Sorry to say on mobile it is dead. That is the long and short of it. BlackBerry was a holdout but not anymore.

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[southlander]

Again, not the best example, but note that there is a People magazine app for the iPhone.

Without Flash, BlackBerry users have no way to watch videos on people.com.




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But if you could set the user agent to say Chrome for Android then you could get served the non flash content.

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[BK_NY_RAY]

Why? Because it's anti security.

Done.

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[Simon Bland]

Hardly done mate! It should be a choice! I'm secure enough for now thankyou!!!

The best phone ever! Passport! Xxx

[jtv1]

Hardly done mate! It should be a choice! I'm secure enough for now thankyou!!!

The best phone ever! Passport! Xxx

I do side with that, particularly that it is something that should of been considered when flash was first supplied for our browsers.
We should have a choice of turning it on or off.

jtvberry

[Dave Bourque]

But if you could set the user agent to say Chrome for Android then you could get served the non flash content.

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Which is probably the plan for BlackBerry. PM sites with flash to me and I'll submit them to BlackBerry.

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[BK_NY_RAY]

It should be optional. Everything should be optional. And let's be honest, a lot of people aren't informed, don't know, don't understand or don't understand, so there should be a message when wanting to turn on flash warning you.

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