BlackBerry running android? You sure you want that?
- This is to all the android fans on this site that seem to be drooling at the prospect of BlackBerry devices running android.
You do realize that you will NOT be able to root your BlackBerry. You therefore won't be able to run ad blocking software, firewalls and different ROM's. Remember, BlackBerry said they will not run android unless they can secure it.
It would also mean you will not be able to remove Google software that BlackBerry will be required to install. You also probably will not be able to remove other possible bloatware installed by carriers (which they almost always lock down).
Almost all of the diehard android fans Root their phones so they can do what they want with it. Again, on a BlackBerry, this will not be possible.
I would never run an android device without the ability to root it and remove the ton's of Google and carrier crap, install ad blocking software and a firewall. All stuff that I don't feel I need to do on my BlackBerry but is essential on an android device.
So think real hard again about if you really want android running on BlackBerry devices.07-16-15 02:41 PMLike 4 - This is to all the android fans on this site that seem to be drooling at the prospect of BlackBerry devices running android.
You do realize that you will NOT be able to root your BlackBerry. You therefore won't be able to run ad blocking software, firewalls and different ROM's. Remember, BlackBerry said they will not run android unless they can secure it.
It would also mean you will not be able to remove Google software that BlackBerry will be required to install. You also probably will not be able to remove other possible bloatware installed by carriers (which they almost always lock down).
Almost all of the diehard android fans Root their phones so they can do what they want with it. Again, on a BlackBerry, this will not be possible.
I would never run an android device without the ability to root it and remove the ton's of Google and carrier crap, install ad blocking software and a firewall. All stuff that I don't feel I need to do on my BlackBerry but is essential on an android device.
So think real hard again about if you really want android running on BlackBerry devices.
Posted via CB1007-16-15 02:43 PMLike 12 - With android runtime, you can run almost all android apps you want. And I'm sure the runtime will continue to improve with future updates.
Also, MOST android apps do nothing but harvest everything from your phone. Who want's that?
With a non-rootable BlackBerry phone, what about the app permissions?07-16-15 02:49 PMLike 2 -
I like my privacy, thanks.07-16-15 02:53 PMLike 4 - Ah yes, I forgot you were a privacy and information security expert who knows precisely what personal data was obtained by Google from my Nexus 4. My apologies to you, oh Great Privacy Expert.07-16-15 02:55 PMLike 12
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Every day I read about more and more secure servers and high level companies being breached and/or hacked. You loose some of your privacy for using the internet technology, period.07-16-15 02:57 PMLike 23 - Right now BB10 is the only OS that BlackBerry is working on officially (other than all the QNX stuff).
I don't think everyone here is all that excited about Android.... just that instead of Chen shutting down hardware completely there might be a slight chances that "something" BlackBerry will still survive.
You do realize the BB10 sales are under 1 million a quarter, and still falling? You do realize that half the apps in BlackBerry World are over a year old? You do realize that BB10 development has slowed? You do realize that developers are not getting updated native development tools? You do realize they haven't updated the runtime in a while now?
I get it, you don't like Android.... well Windows isn't in much better shape and Apple isn't open to sharing.... not sure what else you wanted Chen to do.07-16-15 03:01 PMLike 9 - Hah, alrighty there buddy. I was just being obtuse, but anyone who's willing to make such broad-sweeping statements most certainly has no idea what they're talking about. Every single app I ran on my Nexus 4 leaked my personal data to Google and the developers? You don't even have any idea what apps I ran, nor how my Privacy Settings are configured on my Google account. You have no idea what you're talking about.07-16-15 03:03 PMLike 6
- I have some news for you about privacy, if your connected to the grid, forget about privacy my friend. There is no such thing as a fully secured network unless it's a closed loop with no outside access.
Every day I read about more and more secure servers and high level companies being breached and/or hacked. You loose some of your privacy for using the internet technology, period.
Your attitude (and most of the general public's) towards privacy is why there are not stricter rules in place with what these companies can do with your information or how much of it they should be allowed to collect.07-16-15 03:03 PMLike 3 - Not really, but while we at CB don't really want Android, everybody else doesn't really want BB10.sir mictol likes this.07-16-15 03:06 PMLike 1
- What I want is for Blackberry to succeed and survive in a market that is currently crushing it beneath its heel. What I want is to be able to buy a Blackberry phone in the future, because it does everything I want and need. If Android opens that path to success, so be it. BB10 isn't going to magically increase its market share and it's already down to one third of one percent, Android runtime notwithstanding.
If you'd rather see the company a) quit the hardware business or b) crash and burn completely, versus making an Android phone, then BBRY's best interests and yours don't converge anyway.07-16-15 03:09 PMLike 4 - Everyone knows that. But I do not need to feed the machine any more than necessary.
Your attitude (and most of the general public's) towards privacy is why there are not stricter rules in place with what these companies can do with your information or how much of it they should be allowed to collect.
But, if you look at the way technology is pushing forward at an incredible pace, there is no guarantees when it comes to protecting your data when your connected to the grid and most folks today depend on the grid for their banking, email, social media and so on. I have just learned to accept it and it doesn't mean I like it, but that's reality of the current situation.DarkJoker33 likes this.07-16-15 03:09 PMLike 1 - DenverRalphyRetired Network ModI'd be willing to bet that if BBRY releases Android handsets (which is still rumor), that there'd likely be consumer grade models and enterprise grade. Enterprise devices would have the bootloader locked down and encrypted by default to prevent rooting, and consumer grade would not be completely locked down. I say likely, because if BBRY wants to see success with Android devices, they'd have to cater to the popular benefit of being able to fully customize the device which makes Android so popular. And it wouldn't be hard to do. Both grades can be released on the same hardware.
Penned via Tapatalk07-16-15 03:14 PMLike 7 - Can someone tell actually the reason why it needs to be android?
Obviously personally I would prefer the bb10 os.
My question is : is there a problem with having full google license ( meaning access to Google services, play, etc) whilst operating on bb10?
Is that possible or does google requires all it products to run on android based OS.
P/S: Please Mr. Chen, just keep the os but expand it to support Google's license/products.
Posted via CB1007-16-15 03:18 PMLike 3 - I would be the first in line to buy the new Android based Blackberry if the price was competitive with the current devices out there. Hopefully Blackberry thinks the same way when it comes to pricing it?07-16-15 03:20 PMLike 2
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Penned via Tapatalk07-16-15 03:27 PMLike 3 - I just don't care, does anyone really care? if you still have a phone, always up to date, secure with Android apps and with hub, peek, flow and BlackBerry productivity, do you really care?
Z10 via CB1007-16-15 03:29 PMLike 3 - I'm currently a Nexus 6 user and I did not root it. I use it stock. I actually wish BB would keep developing BB10. But I also wish Chen had kept trying to get native developers. I think once he abandoned native app development and openly encouraged those developers to move to Android the writing was on the wall. I hope if they do create an Android device that they are able to keep the hub and active frames.
Posted via the CrackBerry App for Android07-16-15 03:30 PMLike 3 - DenverRalphyRetired Network ModThere's very little reason to root anymore. I used to be a root junky. But all the features I used to root my device to obtain are now features built into Android. I think the last device I rooted was a Gingerbread device (maybe ICS, it's been so long I struggle to remember). I don't really care about ad blocking anymore since realistically, app developers have learned that obtrusive ads are a detriment to app adoption so very few apps have ads that are significantly noticeable. Most OEMs and carriers have moved the majority of their bloatware apps out of the system partition so they can be easily uninstalled. And I don't need custom ROMs anymore because the features I wanted from them are now incorporated into custom launchers (I use Nova personally) that don't require root. But hey, that's just me. There are still tons of users who live and die by rooting and ROM'ing their devices.
Penned via Tapatalk07-16-15 03:43 PMLike 6 - Competitive pricing would have to be a certainty if they commit to "going android". They'd have to ensure that they offer all the same advantages as other Android devices. The price point being one of them. Otherwise Joe Consumer is just going to look elsewhere.
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Slider might be good specs... but I doubt you'll see gimmicky things like a fingerprint reader, waterproofing or brushed metal body.... things that are kinda cool.
And without a major marketing push... I just don't see them even trying anything for the consumer market. To be honest I wouldn't be surprised if new DroidBerry's don't require a BES subscription out of the box.07-16-15 03:47 PMLike 0 - DenverRalphyRetired Network ModThat is what I doubt they'll be able to do with their low volume and having to now outsource production.
Slider might be good specs... but I doubt you'll see gimmicky things like a fingerprint reader, waterproofing or brushed metal body.... things that are kinda cool.
And without a major marketing push... I just don't see them even trying anything for the consumer market. To be honest I wouldn't be surprised if new DroidBerry's don't require a BES subscription out of the box.
First, it would require an official end to BB10 device production, simply because you don't compound the difficulties of a struggling hardware business by adding a 2nd OS/Platform line of devices into the mix. It'd have to be one or the other, not both.
Second, given the first point, it's inherently obvious that they're inches away from dumping the hardware business altogether. If they decide to go Android, it'd be a last ditch effort to save that aspect of the company. There can't be any half measures. The only real option is to go all in. If it works out, great. If it doesn't, you lick your wounds, write it off, and sleep contentedly at night knowing that the nightmare is over. But to ensure any realistic expectation that it might work out, they'd have to make a significant investment into the effort and risk.
Which is why I'm pretty sure BBRY is pretty mum on the subject. It's a tricky situation and they're treading carefully before committing (assuming the rumors are real).
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