1. GoJaysGo's Avatar
    Does anyone know if the Priv is produced/manufactured by Foxconn?
    11-12-15 02:11 PM
  2. Bla1ze's Avatar
    No. It's built by Wistron.
    11-12-15 02:15 PM
  3. BlackQtCoder's Avatar
    Classic was

    Posted via CB10
    11-12-15 02:16 PM
  4. gravymonster's Avatar
    Classic was

    Posted via CB10
    Pretty sure it was the Leap.

    Posted via CB10
    11-12-15 02:20 PM
  5. Taigatrommel's Avatar
    Pretty sure it was the Leap.

    Posted via CB10
    If I am not mistaken, the Z3 was the very first Foxconn device, while the Classic indeed was the first big, global BlackBerry device by Foxconn.

    Posted via CB10
    11-12-15 02:21 PM
  6. curves2000's Avatar
    Actually it was the first device launched under CEO John Chen and that was the Z3 focused on emerging markets.

    To my knowledge thus far only Z3 and Classic have been produced by Foxconn

    Posted via CB10
    11-12-15 02:22 PM
  7. JulesDB's Avatar
    Z3 was the first

    ___BlackBerry 10 makes me stay___
    11-12-15 05:33 PM
  8. z10Jobe's Avatar
    Going by memory, the z3 was the first device followed by the Classic. As far as I know, these are the only two by Foxconn. Please correct me if I'm mistaken.

    Posted via CB10
    11-12-15 05:50 PM
  9. Drenegade's Avatar
    Priv is made in Mexico.

    Posted via CB10
    11-12-15 08:29 PM
  10. Bla1ze's Avatar
    Priv is made in Mexico.

    Posted via CB10
    That wasn't the question lol. Lots of places have manufacturing facilities in Mexico including Foxconn, Wistron.

    In any case, it was NOT built by Foxconn. It was built by Wistron.
    11-13-15 05:33 PM
  11. thurask's Avatar
    Z3, Classic. Those are Foxconn. The rest aren't.
    11-13-15 05:41 PM
  12. Bbnivende's Avatar
    No. It's built by Wistron.
    What can be said about whether the Passport and Classic are still in production or is BlackBerry selling inventory.
    11-13-15 05:46 PM
  13. thurask's Avatar
    What can be said about whether the Passport and Classic are still in production or is BlackBerry selling inventory.
    I doubt they're in production. Pumping out too many devices bit them in the arse with the Z10.
    11-13-15 05:49 PM
  14. FirstBerry101's Avatar
    bla1ze what was the nme of the employee who built the first one?

    Posted via the CrackBerry App for Android
    11-13-15 06:03 PM
  15. Troy Tiscareno's Avatar
    What can be said about whether the Passport and Classic are still in production or is BlackBerry selling inventory.
    They are both out of production - but like the 9900, could theoretically have another run of them made should the demand warrant it. But normal manufacturing procedure for making phones with the (relatively low) demand of the PP or Classic is to estimate the total number of sales for the entire first year, and then produce that many in one production run (it costs a lot of money to re-tool a production line, so every effort is taken not to do that anymore often than necessary). The inventory is then bulk-packed to a storage warehouse someplace, and then devices are taken out of storage inventory and packaged up to fulfill orders (they aren't put in retail packaging at the factory). This allows shifting of inventory from one place to another, and for any updates to artwork, packaging or documentation to be included with the next shipment of phones.

    When you make something like the iPhone, where demand is huge especially for the first few months after launch, then phones are packaged during the production run and *some* production lines run the year 'round, while others are only run during the initial launch surge. That's a luxury of a high-demand, high-volume product - you won't have inventory sitting around for very long - it cycles through quickly, allowing you to optimize production and distribution to a greater extent.

    It's very possible that the Priv may be out of production by Jan or Feb (and it may technically be out of production now, and waiting for an opening with their contract manufacturer to make another run). Demand is always highest for a new smartphone during its first 2 quarters, so manufacturing usually lasts sometime through the launch quarter and then ceases (or, if there's enough volume, is continued but scaled back greatly). We don't know how the Priv's demand curve will hold up, but we do know that BB and their manufacturing partners are being VERY conservative about production numbers - they can't afford to produce too much inventory, so they'll try to keep channel inventory low but ship often, to better gauge demand and to be able to throttle production to match the demand curve.
    Laura Knotek, Uzi and Bbnivende like this.
    11-13-15 07:56 PM
  16. MmmHmm's Avatar
    They are both out of production - but like the 9900, could theoretically have another run of them made should the demand warrant it. But normal manufacturing procedure for making phones with the (relatively low) demand of the PP or Classic is to estimate the total number of sales for the entire first year, and then produce that many in one production run (it costs a lot of money to re-tool a production line, so every effort is taken not to do that anymore often than necessary). The inventory is then bulk-packed to a storage warehouse someplace, and then devices are taken out of storage inventory and packaged up to fulfill orders (they aren't put in retail packaging at the factory). This allows shifting of inventory from one place to another, and for any updates to artwork, packaging or documentation to be included with the next shipment of phones.

    When you make something like the iPhone, where demand is huge especially for the first few months after launch, then phones are packaged during the production run and *some* production lines run the year 'round, while others are only run during the initial launch surge. That's a luxury of a high-demand, high-volume product - you won't have inventory sitting around for very long - it cycles through quickly, allowing you to optimize production and distribution to a greater extent.

    It's very possible that the Priv may be out of production by Jan or Feb (and it may technically be out of production now, and waiting for an opening with their contract manufacturer to make another run). Demand is always highest for a new smartphone during its first 2 quarters, so manufacturing usually lasts sometime through the launch quarter and then ceases (or, if there's enough volume, is continued but scaled back greatly). We don't know how the Priv's demand curve will hold up, but we do know that BB and their manufacturing partners are being VERY conservative about production numbers - they can't afford to produce too much inventory, so they'll try to keep channel inventory low but ship often, to better gauge demand and to be able to throttle production to match the demand curve.
    Very informative. Thanks.
    11-13-15 08:24 PM
  17. curves2000's Avatar
    They are both out of production - but like the 9900, could theoretically have another run of them made should the demand warrant it. But normal manufacturing procedure for making phones with the (relatively low) demand of the PP or Classic is to estimate the total number of sales for the entire first year, and then produce that many in one production run (it costs a lot of money to re-tool a production line, so every effort is taken not to do that anymore often than necessary). The inventory is then bulk-packed to a storage warehouse someplace, and then devices are taken out of storage inventory and packaged up to fulfill orders (they aren't put in retail packaging at the factory). This allows shifting of inventory from one place to another, and for any updates to artwork, packaging or documentation to be included with the next shipment of phones.

    When you make something like the iPhone, where demand is huge especially for the first few months after launch, then phones are packaged during the production run and *some* production lines run the year 'round, while others are only run during the initial launch surge. That's a luxury of a high-demand, high-volume product - you won't have inventory sitting around for very long - it cycles through quickly, allowing you to optimize production and distribution to a greater extent.

    It's very possible that the Priv may be out of production by Jan or Feb (and it may technically be out of production now, and waiting for an opening with their contract manufacturer to make another run). Demand is always highest for a new smartphone during its first 2 quarters, so manufacturing usually lasts sometime through the launch quarter and then ceases (or, if there's enough volume, is continued but scaled back greatly). We don't know how the Priv's demand curve will hold up, but we do know that BB and their manufacturing partners are being VERY conservative about production numbers - they can't afford to produce too much inventory, so they'll try to keep channel inventory low but ship often, to better gauge demand and to be able to throttle production to match the demand curve.


    Thanks for this information! I know that it's common practice for people to wait for a "newer build" in the hopes that quality goes up from any known issues. This happens for all sorts of products and not just Blackberry's.

    So when we, Blackberry fans look at the box and see what we think is the production date, is that accurate? From the explanation you have given it would almost appear that the date written on the box would be more along the lines of a packaging date.

    Thanks for the info. Just trying to get a better understanding as to Blackberry production methods.



    Posted via CB10
    11-13-15 09:28 PM
  18. Troy Tiscareno's Avatar
    It's exactly the packaging date, not the production date of the hardware.

    Example: the last Z10s were produced in May of 2013, but if you buy one today, you might get a box marked as late as June or July or 2015.
    11-14-15 12:56 AM
  19. Bbnivende's Avatar
    They are both out of production - but like the 9900, could theoretically have another run of them made should the demand warrant it. But normal manufacturing procedure for making phones with the (relatively low) demand of the PP or Classic is to estimate the total number of sales for the entire first year, and then produce that many in one production run (it costs a lot of money to re-tool a production line, so every effort is taken not to do that anymore often than necessary). The inventory is then bulk-packed to a storage warehouse someplace, and then devices are taken out of storage inventory and packaged up to fulfill orders (they aren't put in retail packaging at the factory). This allows shifting of inventory from one place to another, and for any updates to artwork, packaging or documentation to be included with the next shipment of phones.

    When you make something like the iPhone, where demand is huge especially for the first few months after launch, then phones are packaged during the production run and *some* production lines run the year 'round, while others are only run during the initial launch surge. That's a luxury of a high-demand, high-volume product - you won't have inventory sitting around for very long - it cycles through quickly, allowing you to optimize production and distribution to a greater extent.

    It's very possible that the Priv may be out of production by Jan or Feb (and it may technically be out of production now, and waiting for an opening with their contract manufacturer to make another run). Demand is always highest for a new smartphone during its first 2 quarters, so manufacturing usually lasts sometime through the launch quarter and then ceases (or, if there's enough volume, is continued but scaled back greatly). We don't know how the Priv's demand curve will hold up, but we do know that BB and their manufacturing partners are being VERY conservative about production numbers - they can't afford to produce too much inventory, so they'll try to keep channel inventory low but ship often, to better gauge demand and to be able to throttle production to match the demand curve.
    Is your take on the Passport and Classic that if they make any more of these devices there will be no apk runtime? Or do think that BB10 existing devices are exempt but any new Enterprise BB10 devices would only have native apps. Thanks

    Posted via CB10
    11-14-15 01:32 AM
  20. Prem WatsApp's Avatar
    Is your take on the Passport and Classic that if they make any more of these devices there will be no apk runtime? Or do think that BB10 existing devices are exempt but any new Enterprise BB10 devices would only have native apps. Thanks

    Posted via CB10
    It probably depends on the Software Release loaded onto the devices... we don't know what 10.3.3 will bring, though... and whether it's gonna be "compulsory"... ;-)

    If it ships with 10.3.2, it will have pretty much everything except Flash...

      AC/CB - back in black or highway to mobile h*ll? ;-P  
    11-14-15 07:12 AM
  21. Troy Tiscareno's Avatar
    Is your take on the Passport and Classic that if they make any more of these devices there will be no apk runtime? Or do think that BB10 existing devices are exempt but any new Enterprise BB10 devices would only have native apps. Thanks
    IMO, the latter... except that I don't believe there will be any new models of BB10 phones. Rather, I think BB will do like they did with the 9900, and, if necessary, make another small run of Classics and/or Passports if stocks run low and enterprises demand more phones in the future. Making more of existing models only means production costs - making an all-new phone means that they also have a lot of R&D, marketing, and other costs as well. For a product that has never made a cent in profit, it makes zero sense to take on those extra costs.

    I believe that, by April or May of 2016, that the BB10 userbase will be down to about 5M users worldwide, as the Priv and any follow-on BB Android devices pull users away from BB10, and I wouldn't be surprised to see that number fall to 3M by the end of 2016 - not long after I believe BB will release the final BB10 update (10.3.4) and announce officially that BB10 is EOL. Or, to put it another way, I think BB10 will fall below 3M users before BBOS does - but that's not because BBOS was better (it wasn't), but rather that BBOS was so much more widely adopted than BB10 was, and because BB10 users are more likely to want modern devices with up-to-date specs and full app functionality than BBOS users are.

    I suspect that BB's license with Google will allow them to continue to produce existing BB10 models, with the ART intact, for as long as BB deems necessary, but that any future BB10 devices would have to have the ART removed (which, let's be real, means new BB10 devices wouldn't be viable, even to most BB10 fans).
    Bbnivende likes this.
    11-14-15 02:06 PM

Similar Threads

  1. How to Factory Reset your BlackBerry Priv
    By CrackBerry News in forum CrackBerry.com News Discussion
    Replies: 1
    Last Post: 11-25-15, 09:01 AM
  2. Blackberry Protect
    By Hedley9 in forum BlackBerry Priv
    Replies: 8
    Last Post: 11-17-15, 01:03 PM
  3. How can I delete pictures on my new PRIV they are on the SD card?
    By CrackBerry Question in forum BlackBerry Priv
    Replies: 5
    Last Post: 11-14-15, 08:48 PM
  4. Third party launchers and the Hub
    By heyjohnnybravo in forum BlackBerry Priv
    Replies: 7
    Last Post: 11-12-15, 06:40 PM
  5. How to move Password Keeper data to the BlackBerry Priv
    By CrackBerry News in forum CrackBerry.com News Discussion
    Replies: 0
    Last Post: 11-12-15, 01:51 PM
LINK TO POST COPIED TO CLIPBOARD