BlackBerry finally making progress with the App situation.
- Getting my q10 I knew that blackberry didn't have very many big name apps but I didn't really care because I knew you could sideload the apps. But I'm glad they are finally getting native app like instagram, vine, Isis and snapchat.
Posted via CB1010-07-13 10:02 PMLike 0 -
- Bold_until_Hybrid_ComesWaterloo's FinestProgress is not made until they are available in BB world. Hopefully these apps end up being nearly full functioning as the claims (iGrann, whine, snappy, etc)10-07-13 10:16 PMLike 3
- Wait? Instagram, vine and snapchat are on BB10? That's news to me! Good news if it's true. Or are these some "alternative" apps using undocumented, reverse engineered APIs that can change at any time and break the apps?
If it's official support, fantastic. If not, it's not going to matter.10-07-13 10:18 PMLike 3 - Wait? Instagram, vine and snapchat are on BB10? That's news to me! Good news if it's true. Or are these some "alternative" apps using undocumented, reverse engineered APIs that can change at any time and break the apps?
If it's official support, fantastic. If not, it's not going to matter.
Posted via CB10canuckvoip likes this.10-07-13 10:34 PMLike 1 - The way I interpret the op is that he means the platform is getting apps like...as in similar too ...
Lighten up and let some threads remain positive for goodness sake. Would it kill some of you?10-07-13 10:35 PMLike 8 -
- the past few years and by few I mean 6 or more, Apps have been a standard requirement on all platforms of OS.
Apple and iOS have been leading the charge and raising the bar for Apps, the other platforms in some cases, unable to keep up. Apple brags about all the Number of Apps available in the store and how they blow the competition away. Billions of consumers have chewed on this thought of "Apps" and yes, yes, yes... Apps Apps Apps... more apps.
I've enjoyed BlackBerry devices for several years. 7100 sure type to be exact dates my BlackBerry involvement. I've had almost every model of BlackBerry including my current Z10, at times changing to the current device four months at a time. Definitely Crackberry fit the describing of my obsession.
I first started downloading apps on my BB8100 pearl, yes I know pearls are for girls... but it's still a blackberry, starting with Crackberry app. These apps I noticed were merely shortcuts for the mobile website m.www.filltheblank.com, didn't disappoint me, but my Web browser on the blackberry could be bookmarked for the mobile website and not take space on my home screen. I did this for years not understanding the App discussion on apple and Windows and blackberry for that matter.
In the last two years I've tried several android devices and finally a iPhone4s. I noticed these devices had terrible Web browsers and at times couldn't load a mobile website without wifi. There is no wonder apps or applications were required for iPhone and some early android OS phones. The Web browsers couldn't handle the small requirements to load the website. Making the devices inferior to BlackBerry and Trio.
To offset this, applications were developed and simple people ate it up. Making applications a requirement on devices that don't need them.
The Mass' rule who is the industry leader. I pod was a good invention. I phone is an ipod with mobility. Needing a wheelchair for its Web browser.... applications being for handicapped devices.
Aaron Julius
@ AJfromLummi
Posted via CB1010-07-13 10:48 PMLike 2 - Wait? Instagram, vine and snapchat are on BB10? That's news to me! Good news if it's true. Or are these some "alternative" apps using undocumented, reverse engineered APIs that can change at any time and break the apps?
If it's official support, fantastic. If not, it's not going to matter.
Also, when the iPhone was first introduced it had the best browser ever seen on a smartphone... yet users and developers still wanted native apps. The browser is irrelevant and it's won't save RIM just like it didn't save Palm.10-07-13 11:03 PMLike 3 -
- I think all these reverse engineered apps says more about the quality of devs that we have than merely me-too developers. The fact that we have numerous devs that are talented enough and smart enough to reverse engineer hidden APIs, etc means we can expect even greater things from them soon.canuckvoip likes this.10-08-13 12:40 AMLike 1
- I think all these reverse engineered apps says more about the quality of devs that we have than merely me-too developers. The fact that we have numerous devs that are talented enough and smart enough to reverse engineer hidden APIs, etc means we can expect even greater things from them soon.
Posted via CB10canuckvoip likes this.10-08-13 01:10 AMLike 1 - Yeah, it's not. Knock off apps don't mean the situation is improving. In fact, it almost looks worse... People from other platforms are looking for "name brands".
Also, when the iPhone was first introduced it had the best browser ever seen on a smartphone... yet users and developers still wanted native apps. The browser is irrelevant and it's won't save RIM just like it didn't save Palm.harlemsfinest27 likes this.10-08-13 01:22 AMLike 1 - I think all these reverse engineered apps says more about the quality of devs that we have than merely me-too developers. The fact that we have numerous devs that are talented enough and smart enough to reverse engineer hidden APIs, etc means we can expect even greater things from them soon.10-08-13 01:23 AMLike 4
- What are you even talking about? What is a "me too developer"? You mean NATIVE developers.. or developers who want to put there apps on a platform that is worth the investment. Let me help you out. This is NOT a good thing we are getting third party apps. It's a step above side loading. And FYI if instagram or vine decides to kill it they can at any time10-08-13 01:34 AMLike 0
- Yeah, it's not. Knock off apps don't mean the situation is improving. In fact, it almost looks worse... People from other platforms are looking for "name brands".
Also, when the iPhone was first introduced it had the best browser ever seen on a smartphone... yet users and developers still wanted native apps. The browser is irrelevant and it's won't save RIM just like it didn't save Palm.
I think you're lying if you don't occasionally laugh at the names yourself! lol...and I don't think it impresses potential customers...
...but it's actually a great thing for the current userbase....it's usually not super stable, and there is not future guarantee, but it IS better than nothing, and the developers deserve great credit. It's not great for the platform in general.10-08-13 01:42 AMLike 3 - Agreed. That was an unfair shot at other developers...in fact, BB developers who labour to bring something of their own concept and design, whether it becomes "big" or not, deserve special credit. The fact is, copying a big app is about as "me too" as it gets, but I don't think we should be criticizing them - they're doing an enormous amount of work- either unless the real app maker objects.
Posted via CB10RDslva likes this.10-08-13 06:15 AMLike 1 - Lol what? How is it a cheap shot? I've labored and made an app of my own concept and put it on the store. It means that these third party devs see that the platform needs these reverse engineered apps to fill a void. I and most people would rather have reverse engineered apps that could be shut down at any second rather than a snap chat -like app that only works on BlackBerry devices....
I am really very surprised that you openly judge the latter to be more praise-worthy. It's actually very troubling to me, however, that is your choice. At the least however, I don't think the other developers deserve your insult.10-08-13 06:47 AMLike 0 - It's fine that you'd rather have a replica of the real thing - that's exactly why getting certain apps to your platform is important. That doesn't mean you need to belittle those who try to generate their own authentic alternatives. While I too would rather have the copy of the mainstream app, I think it's far more noble, and ambitious to generate your own alternative, than to make a grey-area mimic app. So as I said, if anyone should be called a "me too" person, it's the latter. However, as I said, both deserve credit for their efforts.
I am really very surprised that you openly judge the latter to be more praise-worthy. It's actually very troubling to me, however, that is your choice. At the least however, I don't think the other developers deserve your insult.
I mean, you're joking, right? This is sarcasm, right? Not an evidence that humanity has fallen so low IQ is a luxury?
The apps are NOT, in fact, "me too". Calling them that would be an incredible insult to intelligence in general. These apps are efforts from community member for the community. They are not another thing that totally looks like Instagram but is actually not, with servers located in Nigeria donated by the High Prince Mbuto Okoye, or maybe yet another puzzle app featuring vertically stretched chinese bikini models. You'll have access to the real deal, because someone does what others couldn't do. What logic did you even use to call those "me too"?
And what is that "noble" word doing in your paragraph? Because you literally just described Zynga's business model as "noble": Zynga offered their very own alternative to other games, they make games that looks like other games out there right down to the numbers, progression pace and theme, but are totally NOT other games and totally are NOT grey-area mimics that access other games' resources. Noble indeed.
Oh wait, Zynga just got sued, now it's going down.
Seriously, I agree that they're grey area, they can be shut down at any given time with no warning whatsoever, and you literally can't say "Instagram supports BlackBerry 10", but to belittle them as "me too" and call Zynga's business model as noble is stretching. Very far.
By the way, Windows Phone 8 did what these, *ahem*, as you call them, "me too" devs do. Go and check for "LINE" in Windows Marketplace, you'll see TWO LINE apps, one by Naver Japan (actual owner), another by Nokia. Naver didn't want to support Windows Phone 8 right away, so Nokia basically made their own, no doubt with cash injection from Microsoft.
What I'm very interested at is your train of logic: how you can call mimics noble but trying to access the real deal is "me too". The phrase "me too" to me means "oh hey, yeah I can do something like that too. Not quite THAT but something like that". These apps, they're not "something like that", they're doing "exactly that"
Z10 STL100-1/10.1.0.4633RDslva likes this.10-08-13 07:20 AMLike 1 -
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