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  1. webpirate's Avatar
    This might be interesting for those who want to get the gps working without the QPST program. In other words you can get your gps working without even attaching to a computer....

    NOTE: You can really screw up your device by messing around with options available in this screen. This is meant for those who know what they are doing and are willing to take some risks.

    Since OS 4.0 or so there has been a hidden Engineering Screen in the BlackBerry OS. It contains a ton of options and views into what you device is doing and how it is running. For example, DigitalbOy put together a guide on how to disable 2G or 3G on an AT&T Bold without debranding it. It is pretty easy to get into the screen but it takes a little work to get it to go away and the options available have no guide to help you through them.


    You can use the easy Thyth-o-matic Engineering Screen Unlock Code Generator at absolous.no-ip.com/projects/escreen/index.php to generate a code to view the engineering screen. Access is controlled through a code generated from your application version, device PIN, and device uptime.

    From the instructions:

    To access the escreen, access the device "Help Me!" screen. For QWERTY devices, perform the key combination Alt+Shift+H on the homescreen. For SureType devices, type Alt+EACE on the homescreen. For SurePress devices, hold the Escape button, and tap the screen upper left, upper right, upper left, and upper right corners in that sequence.

    The "Help Me!" screen contains the application version, PIN, and current up time. Without leaving the "Help Me!" screen, enter that information into the generator. The generator will give you the 8 digit code for the current "Help Me!" screen. If you close the "Help Me!" screen, the device uptime will no longer match the uptime used to generate the code.

    Type the 8 digit code into the "Help Me!" screen. You will not see the digits as you type them, but once all 8 correct digits are entered, the escreen will activate. Make sure to use Alt for the numbers on QWERTY devices. Make sure to use multitap to enter the digits on SureType devices.

    Once activated, the escreen will replace the "Help Me!" screen for the duration specified when generating the code. You can close the escreen earlier by setting your device clock ahead past the expiration time, reactivating the "Help Me!" screen, then setting your device clock back to normal. Note: Devices with a vendor ID of 1 (RIM engineering sample devices) will always have the escreen open.

    Then go to: "Radio Engineering Screens" --> "GPS" -->"GPS Options" -->
    Set "Session" to "New Position" and then Save
    Set "Network Access" to "Allowed with dmod"
    Set "Privacy Option" to "low" and then save
    Set "Transfer Protocol" to "TCP/IP" and then save
    Then set Operation mode to "MS based" then Save.


    Then go to: "PDE Options" And Enter the correct "IP Address" and "Port Number" depending on the list below and then save

    Then go back up to "Transfer Protocol" and set it to "TCP/IP" or "DBE" depending on the list below and then save

    Alltel
    PDE IP Address = 205.142.19.100
    PDE Port Number = 8888
    PDE Transport = IP
    Position Calculation = Mobile

    Sprint:
    PDE IP Address = 68.28.31.49
    PDE Port Number = 5017
    PDE Transport = IP
    Position Calculation = Mobile

    Telus:
    PDE IP Address = 216.198.139.92
    PDE Port Number = 8889
    PDE Transport = IP
    Position Calculation = Mobile

    Verizon:
    PDE IP Address: 66.174.95.132
    PDE Port number: 8888
    PDE Transport: IP
    Position Calculation: Mobile

    Unconfirmed
    Bell:
    PDE IP Address: 206.47.201.75
    PDE Port number: 8888
    PDE Transport: IP
    Position Calculation: Mobile

    US Cellular (Same as Alltel)
    PDE IP Address = 205.142.19.100
    PDE Port Number = 8888
    PDE Transport = IP
    Position Calculation = Mobile

    MetroPCS:
    Server IP Address = 198.17.1.0
    Server Port Number = 3425
    PDE Transport = IP
    Position Calcultation = PDE

    AT&T:
    PDE IP Address: 66.209.11.61
    PDE Port number: 8888
    PDE Transport: IP
    Position Calculation: Mobile

    I hope this work for you.......
    07-17-09 07:41 AM
  2. bacon.jay's Avatar
    I was under the impression that the gps on the 8330 was service book-driven. Does this override the service book or something?

    Posted from my CrackBerry at wapforums.crackberry.com
    07-17-09 08:50 AM
  3. OmegaF150's Avatar
    I don't know but I might have to try this later unless I see some negative feedback from people lol.

    Posted from my CrackBerry at wapforums.crackberry.com
    07-17-09 09:03 AM
  4. goz5000's Avatar
    This might be interesting for those who want to get the gps working without the QPST program. In other words you can get your gps working without even attaching to a computer....

    NOTE: You can really screw up your device by messing around with options available in this screen. This is meant for those who know what they are doing and are willing to take some risks.

    Since OS 4.0 or so there has been a hidden Engineering Screen in the BlackBerry OS. It contains a ton of options and views into what you device is doing and how it is running. For example, DigitalbOy put together a guide on how to disable 2G or 3G on an AT&T Bold without debranding it. It is pretty easy to get into the screen but it takes a little work to get it to go away and the options available have no guide to help you through them.


    You can use the easy Thyth-o-matic Engineering Screen Unlock Code Generator at absolous.no-ip.com/projects/escreen/index.php to generate a code to view the engineering screen. Access is controlled through a code generated from your application version, device PIN, and device uptime.

    From the instructions:

    To access the escreen, access the device "Help Me!" screen. For QWERTY devices, perform the key combination Alt+Shift+H on the homescreen. For SureType devices, type Alt+EACE on the homescreen. For SurePress devices, hold the Escape button, and tap the screen upper left, upper right, upper left, and upper right corners in that sequence.

    The "Help Me!" screen contains the application version, PIN, and current up time. Without leaving the "Help Me!" screen, enter that information into the generator. The generator will give you the 8 digit code for the current "Help Me!" screen. If you close the "Help Me!" screen, the device uptime will no longer match the uptime used to generate the code.

    Type the 8 digit code into the "Help Me!" screen. You will not see the digits as you type them, but once all 8 correct digits are entered, the escreen will activate. Make sure to use Alt for the numbers on QWERTY devices. Make sure to use multitap to enter the digits on SureType devices.

    Once activated, the escreen will replace the "Help Me!" screen for the duration specified when generating the code. You can close the escreen earlier by setting your device clock ahead past the expiration time, reactivating the "Help Me!" screen, then setting your device clock back to normal. Note: Devices with a vendor ID of 1 (RIM engineering sample devices) will always have the escreen open.

    Then go to: "Radio Engineering Screens" --> "GPS" -->"GPS Options" -->
    Set "Session" to "New Position" and then Save
    Set "Network Access" to "Allowed with dmod"
    Set "Privacy Option" to "low" and then save
    Set "Transfer Protocol" to "TCP/IP" and then save
    Then set Operation mode to "MS based" then Save.


    Then go to: "PDE Options" And Enter the correct "IP Address" and "Port Number" depending on the list below and then save

    Then go back up to "Transfer Protocol" and set it to "TCP/IP" or "DBE" depending on the list below and then save

    Alltel
    PDE IP Address = 205.142.19.100
    PDE Port Number = 8888
    PDE Transport = IP
    Position Calculation = Mobile

    Sprint:
    PDE IP Address = 68.28.31.49
    PDE Port Number = 5017
    PDE Transport = IP
    Position Calculation = Mobile

    Telus:
    PDE IP Address = 216.198.139.92
    PDE Port Number = 8889
    PDE Transport = IP
    Position Calculation = Mobile

    Verizon:
    PDE IP Address: 66.174.95.132
    PDE Port number: 8888
    PDE Transport: IP
    Position Calculation: Mobile

    Unconfirmed
    Bell:
    PDE IP Address: 206.47.201.75
    PDE Port number: 8888
    PDE Transport: IP
    Position Calculation: Mobile

    US Cellular (Same as Alltel)
    PDE IP Address = 205.142.19.100
    PDE Port Number = 8888
    PDE Transport = IP
    Position Calculation = Mobile

    MetroPCS:
    Server IP Address = 198.17.1.0
    Server Port Number = 3425
    PDE Transport = IP
    Position Calcultation = PDE

    AT&T:
    PDE IP Address: 66.209.11.61
    PDE Port number: 8888
    PDE Transport: IP
    Position Calculation: Mobile

    I hope this work for you.......
    Very nice should save a lot of looking around for the apps to do this with the pc, and I would post this in the GPS section of the forums too

    Posted from my CrackBerry at wapforums.crackberry.com
    07-17-09 11:45 AM
  5. anon(2051033)'s Avatar
    If I'm on Verizon would this let me override the block that they have on the gps and 3rd party applications?
    07-17-09 02:07 PM
  6. spectraphysics's Avatar
    Well, I gave this a shot and Google Maps still doesn't work on my Verizon Curve. BB Maps still functions normally however, so it didn't break anything. Other ideas?
    07-17-09 02:53 PM
  7. OmegaF150's Avatar
    I don't think google maps works on anything lol. Have u tried any third party apps? I also think it is just another way to the " a real fix for broken gps" thread.

    Posted from my CrackBerry at wapforums.crackberry.com
    07-17-09 03:25 PM
  8. bandmaria's Avatar
    Can not get it to work on the curve, ok how stupid of me, did'nt enter correct "uptime"
    Last edited by bandmaria; 07-17-09 at 04:15 PM.
    07-17-09 03:42 PM
  9. Big Spartacus's Avatar
    I second Devil's question, does anyone have an answer?
    07-17-09 04:15 PM
  10. OmegaF150's Avatar
    Well I was going to try this but my comp crashed. So I need to get it back up and running to try.

    Posted from my CrackBerry at wapforums.crackberry.com
    07-17-09 04:21 PM
  11. OmegaF150's Avatar
    Well I was going to try this but my comp crashed. So I need to get it back up and running to try.

    Posted from my CrackBerry at wapforums.crackberry.com
    07-17-09 04:50 PM
  12. jay9055's Avatar

    Then go to: "PDE Options" And Enter the correct "IP Address" and "Port Number" depending on the list below and then save

    Then go back up to "Transfer Protocol" and set it to "TCP/IP" or "DBE" depending on the list below and then save
    I dont see "PDE Options" on my engineering screens (8330m)
    07-17-09 05:00 PM
  13. Nathan79's Avatar
    I tried that option to fix the gps in my telus 8330.. The one thing i noticed is that after a battery pull the info you entered is gone.. whereas using the other method in that thread posted above, it stays and is permanent..
    07-17-09 11:20 PM
  14. lorissimo's Avatar
    Followed step-by-step and it seems to have worked for me! Thanks! I'll keep you posted if it changes...
    07-18-09 10:27 PM
  15. HellKatzX's Avatar
    Then go back up to "Transfer Protocol" and set it to "TCP/IP" or "DBE" depending on the list below and then save

    I don't get this part?
    07-19-09 01:46 AM
  16. OmegaF150's Avatar
    lorissimo, does this mean you got gps working for third party applications like google maps??
    This was going to be my next question. Got my comp back up might have to try this.

    Posted from my CrackBerry at wapforums.crackberry.com
    07-19-09 11:44 AM
  17. Catimus's Avatar
    Been struggling with this problem for almost a year since I got my Curve. Tried the fix using the instructions above, most of the things were already set as outline just had to change to MS option and enter in the IP. Worked like a charm with GoogleMaps. When finding my location give me a cell site location at first then narrows to my location. But unfortunatly as I have QuickPull running nightly, it does loose the info once that goes off.
    07-19-09 12:29 PM
  18. OmegaF150's Avatar
    Well ill give it a go and see what happens. Maybe tonight or tomorrow.

    Posted from my CrackBerry at wapforums.crackberry.com
    07-19-09 06:55 PM
  19. lorissimo's Avatar
    This was going to be my next question. Got my comp back up might have to try this.

    Posted from my CrackBerry at wapforums.crackberry.com
    Yes... it worked with Google Maps...
    07-19-09 11:06 PM
  20. lorissimo's Avatar
    I tried that option to fix the gps in my telus 8330.. The one thing i noticed is that after a battery pull the info you entered is gone.. whereas using the other method in that thread posted above, it stays and is permanent..
    but this did happen to me tonight... I had to reprogram the information...
    07-19-09 11:13 PM
  21. anon(2051033)'s Avatar
    but this did happen to me tonight... I had to reprogram the information...
    So every time you reset the phone this feature gets erased. Nathan said something about another method that it is permanent. Did I miss something in the OP's block of text?
    07-19-09 11:18 PM
  22. lorissimo's Avatar
    So every time you reset the phone this feature gets erased. Nathan said something about another method that it is permanent. Did I miss something in the OP's block of text?
    Not sure on every reset. I "reprogrammed" it last night and it was working perfectly. When I woke up this morning it wasn't. Hadn't turned the phone off nor did I reset it. I went into the programming screen and the IP info was gone. Reentered the info, saved it, double checked that it saved, exited out of the programming screen and right into Google Maps. Works perfectly. I don't know why the info seems to "disappear" like that??????

    I'd like to know about the "permanent" method as well. Maybe he/she is referring to the method which requires PC software to access the GPS info to change it. I tried that and it didn't work for me. I'm sure it's because I am running OS .160. From what I read you need .77 or lower to do it. You can downgrade your OS and then perform the fix and after upgrade your OS. I really don't want to go to all that trouble. I thought the OP's method would be perfect. If the information would would "stay" (so to speak) it would be perfect. Does anyone know why the IP info disappears?
    07-20-09 09:29 AM
  23. anon(2051033)'s Avatar
    Hmm very interesting, I'll give it a try when I get home. Also, I don't know anything about software development but maybe there is a way an application can be devolped that automatically will find the key needed to access the menu, then go into the settings and change the information at the click of a button?
    Not sure how hard this would be but a lot of people would benefit from it instead of having to constantly manually enter the information.

    Posted from my CrackBerry at wapforums.crackberry.com
    07-20-09 09:35 AM
  24. lorissimo's Avatar
    Hmm very interesting, I'll give it a try when I get home. Also, I don't know anything about software development but maybe there is a way an application can be devolped that automatically will find the key needed to access the menu, then go into the settings and change the information at the click of a button?
    Not sure how hard this would be but a lot of people would benefit from it instead of having to constantly manually enter the information.

    Posted from my CrackBerry at wapforums.crackberry.com
    If it where that easy live would be grand! :-) Let me know how it works out for you. You're on a different carrier so your results might be interesting...
    07-20-09 09:41 AM
  25. cchapman's Avatar
    Thank you a whole bunch! I have an 8330m on the US Cellular network with BES. I have spent hours on the phone with US Cell and RIM trying to get this issue resolved. They finally told me on July 15th that they would soon be releasing a statement about this issue, but that still doesn't say when the issue will be resolved. I followed the instructions listed here, and it worked great. I did notice that for US Cellular I was supposed to have the Position Calculation set to Mobile, but couldn't find a place to change that at all.

    It worked great with all of my GPS applications, except for Google maps, which I even had trouble with on my 8830WE, so who cares about that. BB Maps worked very quickly. I even did a complete battery pull, and it still worked flawlessly after that.

    Again, Thanks!!!!
    07-20-09 10:12 AM
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