- Hi everyone, I have noticed that this topic is heavily debated all over CB including threads that have nothing to do with the topic.
Let us settle the score in a more structured and civilised manner.
LET THE DEBATE BEGIN!!!
Posted via CB10Last edited by damibond; 12-01-13 at 06:45 AM.
11-30-13 12:27 PMLike 0 - settling the score on a more structured and civilized manner means listing pros and cons for each platform without being biased. And most of us know what they are.11-30-13 12:33 PMLike 4
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Posted via CB1011-30-13 12:35 PMLike 3 - I love the stream lined communication experience in bb10. Very refined and efficient. I can effortlessly utilize the hub etc to go about my day.
I am a power user in the means of communication. Android is too cumbersome as I find too many steps to carry out many of my critical functions.
Bb10 imho is the best mobile experience.
Android has many apps however with the Android runtime on bb10 we now have access to the majority of Android apps. Many of which work seamlessly.
Android allows for customization. However I am unaware of how many actually utilize that aspect out side of the realm of the tech savvy
Many users love Android. Very advanced in many aspects. However as a power user it is just not up to par in terms of power user capabilites of BB10
Posted via CB1011-30-13 12:40 PMLike 3 -
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Give end users more credit
Posted via CB1011-30-13 12:45 PMLike 0 - Are you talking about 10.2.1? It isn't even officially out yet. I am not going to bother with buggy leaks.11-30-13 12:47 PMLike 0
- I'm fairly confident by "the facts", Android beats BB10 (and iOS and Windows Phone) by a wide margin.Using facts basically means ruling out things completely subjective like GUI because those cannot be "factual".
People who claim Android are bogged down or buggy probably don't have much experience with Android and, even if it were true, it would mean that you would have to prove it with evidence instead of simply an anecdote. Like "Across 1000 different devices used by 1000 different individuals, the BB10 devices reboot X amount of times over a 7 day period vs X amount of times for Android."
What we have left would go something like this:
APPS - Android has many apps. Blackberry's app selection is largely a subset of Android app store with many apps not fully functional or functioning properly
DISPLAY - Android has a variety of display selection from <3" to >6". Blackberry has what? 3? Android also has a better selection of PPI and display types like AMOLED and SLCD
OPENNESS - There are Android devices with unlocked bootloader.
HARDWARE - Android has quad core Snapdragon 800 processors
PRICING - BBRY is sells a Z10 with a Snapdragon S4 for ~400 USD. A Nexus 5 with a Snapdragon 800 can be had for ~350 USD.
And it goes on and on like this... It's because Android is so much better/more suitable for most people that its the top selling OS in the world.11-30-13 12:52 PMLike 9 -
NO MORE SIDE LOADING!!!!!
Step 1) Google app store
Step 2) select app store and click install
Step 3) save and open file
Step 4)install and open app
Very simple execution that even a novice would have no difficulty obtaining a 3rd party app store.
I felt I would show just how easily it is to execute a simple function on bb10. Very easy and effortless
Just pointing out how simple it is to those that don't own a bb10 device and are commenting on the hassle. It really is this easy.
Hope it helps those new to installing app stores
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Attachment 225735Last edited by missing_K-W; 11-30-13 at 01:16 PM.
11-30-13 01:03 PMLike 7 - Since this is about facts surrounding Android vs BlackBerry 10, I'll just post one fact.
In the matter of one week, over 10 million people activate a new Android-based device. In one week's time, the number of Android-based devices sold out number the total amount of BlackBerry 10 devices sold in its entire existence by a healthy margin.
If you want to take a closer look at it, in one month, just one Android-based device, the Samsung Galaxy S4, sold over 10 million units. That one month of sells, on only one device, far surpasses all of BlackBerry 10 sales so far.
Fact is, BlackBerry 10 is a commercial failure.11-30-13 01:18 PMLike 4 - Since this is about facts surrounding Android vs BlackBerry 10, I'll just post one fact.
In the matter of one week, over 10 million people activate a new Android-based device. In one week's time, the number of Android-based devices sold out number the total amount of BlackBerry 10 devices sold in its entire existence by a healthy margin.
If you want to take a closer look at it, in one month, just one Android-based device, the Samsung Galaxy S4, sold over 10 million units. That one month of sells, on only one device, far surpasses all of BlackBerry 10 sales so far.
Fact is, BlackBerry 10 is a commercial failure.
Posted via CB1011-30-13 01:20 PMLike 5 -
Bottom line, they haven't made a dime of profit off of the new platform. It has been a complete commercial failure and that isn't a opinion, it is a fact.11-30-13 01:29 PMLike 16 - Since the purchase of QNX, the company has lost almost $3 billion on their new platform. And that figure only includes the purchase of QNX ($200 million) and the inventory write off for the PlayBook (estimated at $1.5 billion), and the Z10 ($1 billion). That figure would much higher if I had the totals for developing the new OS, marketing, all of the developer promotions and other expenses related to the new platform.
Bottom line, they haven't made a dime of profit off of the new platform. It has been a complete commercial failure and that isn't a opinion, it is a fact.
How the future plays out in the means of profitability can rectify the initial losses.
Posted via CB1011-30-13 01:36 PMLike 0 - The question is, can blackberry market BB10 as being fully compatible with Android and the apps? If that can be done, BB10 sales could take off.
Particularly for the 'prosumer' and would be great for enterprise, with the BB Balance feature fully demonstrated as secure BB10 for work and BlackBerry 'Blandroid' outside of the office.
Posted via CB10missing_K-W likes this.11-30-13 01:38 PMLike 1 - Since the purchase of QNX, the company has lost almost $3 billion on their new platform. And that figure only includes the purchase of QNX ($200 million) and the inventory write off for the PlayBook (estimated at $1.5 billion), and the Z10 ($1 billion). That figure would much higher if I had the totals for developing the new OS, marketing, all of the developer promotions and other expenses related to the new platform.
Bottom line, they haven't made a dime of profit off of the new platform. It has been a complete commercial failure and that isn't a opinion, it is a fact.11-30-13 01:38 PMLike 3 - DenverRalphyRetired Network Mod
Almost every Android device I see has been customized in some form or another. It's easy, doesn't require tinkering, and is one of the first things a first time Android user learns to do.
SwiftKeyed/Flowed via Tapatalk 4 Beta11-30-13 01:40 PMLike 11 - Each of the Big 4 mobile operating systems has their own pros and cons and depending on which one you choose largely depends on one's needs. Those who prefer a communication and multitasking centric device will go for a BB10 device. Those who prefer a simplified and smooth operating system with a great app and media ecosystem will prefer IOS. Those who like customization and modding as well as access to Google services at various sizes and options with plenty of apps will prefer Android. Those who like a refreshing and constantly moving and updating tiled interface with access to all of Microsoft's services will prefer WP8.
With that being said of course most people here will prefer BB10. There are things BB10 excels at, struggles with, and is on par with compared to the competition. There are also things that BB10 has that's a new and debate-ably improved way of doing things. The truth is that there is no operating system to be considered "best". I personally think that Android is the most well rounded because you can customize the home screen and set default apps to whatever you like, but I don't think its best. You really just have to try and experiment with all platforms to see what you really think suits you the most. Its all just personal preference really.11-30-13 01:52 PMLike 15 -
But I hope you realize only those on crackberry are running leaks, and even a smaller subset in actuality.
Posted via CB1011-30-13 01:55 PMLike 8 -
Posted via CB1011-30-13 02:01 PMLike 4 - DenverRalphyRetired Network ModEvery platform supporter can poke holes in other platforms. It's easy to do because no one platform has every imaginable feature built into their favored platform. Everybody can point out missing features or functionality on any platform. Every platform can produce examples of performance tests to proclaim their favored platform superior. Then of course are rebuttals which are rarely more than "That's just a gimmick" or "I don't need that so it's irrelevant."
SwiftKeyed/Flowed via Tapatalk 4 Beta11-30-13 02:07 PMLike 10 - No home button means that for me Bb10 wins hands down every time.
Does android sell more? Of course. It's only almost every other phone manufacturer selling it. Tim Hortons sells more coffee than my favourite coffee shop. My favourite coffee shop however has, imo, a far superior coffee.
Posted via CB1011-30-13 02:07 PMLike 6 - DenverRalphyRetired Network ModI'm at a loss as to why this seems to be a huge point on CB in recent months.
There is nothing inferior to having a home button. It's just a different method of UI interaction. It's neither better nor worse. Just different.
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