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  1. D BB's Avatar
    The best mobile OS in the world that almost nobody knew

    https://www.gsmarena.com/flashback_b...news-41415.php

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    Last edited by D BB; 02-11-20 at 05:03 PM.
    02-11-20 04:04 AM
  2. John Albert's Avatar
    The best mobile SO in the world that almost nobody knew

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    No, it was good, but way far from being the best.
    02-11-20 04:44 AM
  3. tfitzpat03's Avatar
    It's almost like that advertisement for BB10 was designed for them to fail smh.

    It was a great OS though especially for hub.
    02-11-20 07:47 AM
  4. Dunt Dunt Dunt's Avatar
    No, it was good, but way far from being the best.
    It had a lot of potential.... few years of optimization and full development would have made it something.

    Especially once the need for the Android Runtime had been overcome and apps were all native... and they all worked the same.
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    02-11-20 07:55 AM
  5. joeldf's Avatar
    It was a mess when it first came out. A lot of basic features that BBOS had was missing. Lots of complaints because the BB10 team purposely worked in a vacuum, ignoring much of what made BBOS so good.

    Then, they spent the next two years shoe horning many of those features back in - bedside mode, custom LED colors, custom notification/ringer volume per app or per account, things like that.

    It was much better by 10.3.2.

    All I wished for by then was a better laid out "Settings" for all that stuff.

    All 10.3.3 really added was the long promised NIAP certification.
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    02-11-20 10:07 AM
  6. conite's Avatar
    It was a mess when it first came out. A lot of basic features that BBOS had was missing. Lots of complaints because the BB10 team purposely worked in a vacuum, ignoring much of what made BBOS so good.

    Then, they spent the next two years shoe horning many of those features back in - bedside mode, custom LED colors, custom notification/ringer volume per app or per account, things like that.

    It was much better by 10.3.2.

    All I wished for by then was a better laid out "Settings" for all that stuff.

    All 10.3.3 really added was the long promised NIAP certification.
    Almost all of the post-launch BB10 development happened within the first year. 10.3 beta was available in March of 2014.

    It would have been interesting to see it today had it kept going at that initial pace.
    02-11-20 10:10 AM
  7. joeldf's Avatar
    Almost all of the post-launch BB10 development happened within the first year. 10.3 beta was available in March of 2014.

    It would have been interesting to see it today had it kept going at that initial pace.
    There were a few minor items tossed in by 10.3.1 or .2... I forget now what it was, but I do recall commenting about it on the old - now defunct - BlackBerry support forum.

    But, yeah, most of it did happen that first year. I do forget how quickly that all occurred.
    02-11-20 10:26 AM
  8. Dunt Dunt Dunt's Avatar
    Almost all of the post-launch BB10 development happened within the first year. 10.3 beta was available in March of 2014.

    It would have been interesting to see it today had it kept going at that initial pace.
    Even then.... they still had 100's of developers on BB10 in maintenance mode after the end of 2014. DonHB just can't see to understand how complex software development on product like this was.
    02-11-20 10:43 AM
  9. ppeters914's Avatar
    DonHB just can't see to understand how complex software development on product like this was.
    ....or that it will cost money that no one will invest. That's real money not pocket change from a bunch of fanboys.

    Oh, well, don't want to encourage him. It's all been discussed many times.... *SO* many times.
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    02-11-20 11:05 AM
  10. bh7171's Avatar
    No, it was good, but way far from being the best.
    Had it had app support it was and is to this day superior to the latest Android or iOS version. Android and iOS are really just annual iterations of old operating systems. BlackBerry 10 was the most modern. Windows also had a lot of potential that was wasted due to developers swooned by Apple, Google and the carrier agreements. Money talks and BS walks..
    02-11-20 11:56 AM
  11. bh7171's Avatar
    Almost all of the post-launch BB10 development happened within the first year. 10.3 beta was available in March of 2014.

    It would have been interesting to see it today had it kept going at that initial pace.
    Come on we all know BlackBerry 10 would have been amazing with app developer support. Had the BlackBerry 10 devices even launched with 10.2.1 it could have been different. I despise AT&T for their complete and utter botch of now releasing that update OTA immediately.
    02-11-20 11:59 AM
  12. conite's Avatar
    Come on we all know BlackBerry 10 would have been amazing with app developer support. Had the BlackBerry 10 devices even launched with 10.2.1 it could have been different. I despise AT&T for their complete and utter botch of now releasing that update OTA immediately.
    BlackBerry had already set the ball in motion to leave handsets well before 10.2.1 was first released.

    Nothing mattered with respect to devices after August of 2013 when the company went up for sale.
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    02-11-20 12:01 PM
  13. bh7171's Avatar
    BlackBerry had already set the ball in motion to leave handsets well before 10.2.1 was first released.

    Nothing mattered with respect to devices after August of 2013 when the company went up for sale.
    And yet they released the Passport, Classic, Q5 and Leap all after August of '13 and up until '15 while the Android Priv was in development and until the Priv came out that November of '15. And since then there has been a "BlackBerry" branded device produced and for sale. Now BlackBerry is at another crossroads. What's next nobody knows. Certainly the manufacturing of devices has changed drastically and is far less than it was even 4-5 years ago. Also seems to be a lot more partnerships than prior.
    02-11-20 12:45 PM
  14. bh7171's Avatar
    The best mobile SO in the world that almost nobody knew

    https://www.gsmarena.com/flashback_b...news-41415.php

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    2013 devices that still look great. 😎
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    02-11-20 12:47 PM
  15. conite's Avatar
    And yet they released the Passport, Classic, Q5 and Leap all after August of '13 and up until '15 while the Android Priv was in development and until the Priv came out that November of '15. And since then there has been a "BlackBerry" branded device produced and for sale. Now BlackBerry is at another crossroads. What's next nobody knows. Certainly the manufacturing of devices has changed drastically and is far less than it was even 4-5 years ago. Also seems to be a lot more partnerships than prior.
    Yes. They had millions of dollars of supplier commitments to burn through. They also had to keep the wheels turning until the software side was built up.

    This is all public, well-documented history.
    02-11-20 01:32 PM
  16. SteinwayTransitCorp's Avatar
    Almost all of the post-launch BB10 development happened within the first year. 10.3 beta was available in March of 2014.

    It would have been interesting to see it today had it kept going at that initial pace.
    If that had happened it would be an Apple killer...........but then again.
    02-11-20 02:23 PM
  17. ppeters914's Avatar
    If that had happened it would be an Apple killer...........but then again.
    I seriously doubt that, but still a player? Maybe, and then I'd probably still be rocking a BlackBerry.

    Woulda, coulda, shoulda.......
    02-11-20 02:34 PM
  18. eshropshire's Avatar
    It was a mess when it first came out. A lot of basic features that BBOS had was missing. Lots of complaints because the BB10 team purposely worked in a vacuum, ignoring much of what made BBOS so good.

    Then, they spent the next two years shoe horning many of those features back in - bedside mode, custom LED colors, custom notification/ringer volume per app or per account, things like that.

    It was much better by 10.3.2.

    All I wished for by then was a better laid out "Settings" for all that stuff.

    All 10.3.3 really added was the long promised NIAP certification.
    BB10 was really only usable for the maases with the release of BB10 2.1. If I remember correctly it took almost 1 year for this update to be widely available. Before this you had to be a true BlackBerry fan to work around many different issues.
    Too late in the game for most former BlackBerry corporate buyers evaluating the OS for their company. In the Tech world it is very hard to get the opportunity for a second impression.
    02-11-20 03:18 PM
  19. PantherBlitz's Avatar
    Come on we all know BlackBerry 10 would have been amazing with app developer support. Had the BlackBerry 10 devices even launched with 10.2.1 it could have been different. I despise AT&T for their complete and utter botch of now releasing that update OTA immediately.
    Ultimately the only thing that mattered is that it needed to be released no later than early 2009 in order to survive. By 2013 there was nothing that they could have released that would have saved BB10.
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    02-11-20 03:18 PM
  20. Chuck Finley69's Avatar
    The best mobile SO in the world that almost nobody knew

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    I still don’t know your Significant Other, mobile or not
    02-11-20 03:29 PM
  21. D BB's Avatar
    2013 devices that still look great. 😎
    My next BB will be the Classic for replace my Classic when it's broken

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    02-11-20 05:07 PM
  22. D BB's Avatar
    I still don’t know your Significant Other, mobile or not
    Ups I'm Portuguese and used to "SO" (sistema operativo) )

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    02-11-20 05:12 PM
  23. chain13's Avatar
    Does it support html 5?
    Cough cough..
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    02-11-20 05:18 PM
  24. Chuck Finley69's Avatar
    Ups I'm Portuguese and used to "SO" (sistema operativo) )

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    As long as you consider where and who the comment was from...
    02-11-20 05:25 PM
  25. ppeters914's Avatar
    Does it support html 5?
    Cough cough..
    Without supporting Lithuanian nor featuring Dark Mode, it was doomed to fail.
    JeepBB and PantherBlitz like this.
    02-11-20 05:54 PM
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