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  1. amazinglygraceless's Avatar
    I'm confused. If you don't want him to access the internet, then why even get a blackberry with a data plan? Just get a good feature phone.

    @amazinglygraceless I am a full time every day parent. "Lighten up" IS an option. So is "pull your head out". I wouldn't dream of crippling my kids phone once they hit that age. Dream world if you think crippling the phone will mean they never see porn (if they want to see it).
    Your child, your way. My child, we do it MY way. Period.
    10-07-09 04:30 PM
  2. steveo1259's Avatar
    my opinion is very similar to what is being said here already, if you block the internet on his phone he WILL find ways around it. fact.

    We have a competition between the kids at my school to see who can break the latest security measures the fastest and i've won 3 out of 10 times this school year (the techs dont know we're doing it offcourse, you dont think we have death wishes do you!!!). We are going to do it, why try to stop us.

    And at 16, I'd be very surprised if your kid hadn't already seen everything he wanted to on the web
    10-07-09 05:27 PM
  3. buggyman#CB's Avatar
    so no way to put on controls? I skim through this and did not really see the answer. As I just bought my 15 yo a BB I want some controls on it but also want him to have access to the web. I think not letting them have it at all holds him back from the technology. I just want to know if parental controls are possible on a BB curve with sprint? As a parent I want to make the decision. He may be able to get around things but if I am not trying then I am not parenting.
    12-19-09 10:13 AM
  4. bluz's Avatar
    Maybe it's me but I just don't get it- why would a 16 yr old would need a BB? beats me...
    12-19-09 12:43 PM
  5. buggyman#CB's Avatar
    Because the technology is here and here to stay. Just think back 10-15 years ago when people used to ask, Why the **** would I need a mobile phone? Or why they heck would I text someone, when I could just call them? Plus with Sprint and having a family plan I am paying for the services if he uses them or not.
    12-19-09 01:02 PM
  6. bluz's Avatar
    are you trying to imply that a 16 yr needs all the technological marvels available at this point?
    12-19-09 01:53 PM
  7. curveoncracke's Avatar
    are you trying to imply that a 16 yr needs all the technological marvels available at this point?
    Not NEED, but lots of 'em have it. Like me. I may not be 16 yet (next year), but I can blow away many of the kids at my school with what I can do with a computer and the technology these days.

    And I have a blackberry. I don't know if my parents trust me, or if they just don't know what the Blackberry can do.

    Probably the latter, since I had to teach my dad everything he knows about the Blackberry when he got mine.
    12-19-09 02:03 PM
  8. Mamaluka's Avatar
    I am always amused when teens say this. News flash, we are not your friends,
    your homies or your dawgs. We are your PARENTS. Many of of us take that
    responsibility very seriously. While we can't protect you from everything we do
    the best we can. "Lighten up" is not an option for an all day, every day parent.
    When you have your own children, you'll completely understand.
    AG...take the plunge brother...download one of the 5.0 betas and fix that text wrapping issue lol.

    Posted from my CrackBerry at wapforums.crackberry.com
    12-19-09 06:02 PM
  9. afropoika's Avatar
    I don't want to sound like I'm telling you how to raise your children, but when I was 16, (I'm 19 now) my parents tried to block the "inappropriate" sites on our computers and all it ever did was teach me how to get around the blocks. Every 16 year old is going to look at that stuff, if not at home at their friends houses. Its all part of growing up.
    You make a great point. Let me add a bit of my own story too (started watching porn at around age 12, am now 18). Ever since being 15 my parents started being more strict regarding everything, especially my PC usage (most likely because I was prime time in puberty). I was at the time a hardcore gamer and would be on the PC for hours playing a single game... did not really understand much about PCs or tech in general. I had a crappy PC with Windows ME on it. All of a sudden my father bought me a new PC. What I did not know was that the PC had all kinds of content filtering enabled and stuff like ZoneAlarm as well as spyware that e-mailed my parents whenever I tried accessing a "bad site". As I said, I was a hardcore gamer and porn wasn't really that big in my life so I didn't try watching any. I noticed however that online gaming sessions acted slower, much slower than on my older PC. I naturally wanted to fix that, couldn't think of anything else like porn in that moment. I found out through a discussion forum online, what software my distrusting parents had installed on my PC. Of course, I found out a way to disable this software. I then found a way to get around content filtering software. I then found out how to shut down ZoneAlarm. Finally, I found out how I could watch some without anyone knowing anything about it or find any traces of it. All of a sudden, I became really tech savvy. Not long and I started experimenting with software development, hacking and that kind of stuff. Not long and I started using Linux. My parents saw me as a technological wonder rather than an innocent boy adventuring in the wilderness not knowing what would come next. They left me alone for a moment, started to be more strict again at other times. All this time they tried to keep me away from the stuff, I just learned new ways to circumvent everything they set up. Now, I am a Linux hacker with good development skills and much technological interest... but I also have been succesfully hiding more than 10GB worth of porn from my parents. They don't know where it is and they can't access it. Even if they knew it existed on my PC and confiscated it, I could still access my collection. I do know my situation sounds kinda bad, and I see how porn has affected my social life negatively. But, this is a warning to parents out there: if you don't want your kids to grow up like me and have porn be a part of their lives, trust them more, but also participate in their lives more actively. Rather than making rules try being friends. I would have really wished for someone to talk to, but never could as I feared my parents would kill me if they discovered what I've been doing.

    p.s. If you still don't get the message, yes, I do at times watch porn on my BlackBerry while in class. I'm not proud of it, but it's like drugs and a really bad one.

    So, trust your kids more.
    - 18 year old with porn addiction problems
    12-19-09 06:32 PM
  10. cherryjuice's Avatar
    Your child, your way. My child, we do it MY way. Period.
    COMPLETELY AGREED!

    My son will be 17 in April and i wont get him a BB because I KNOW what it can do and he doesn't NEED one> He does have a phone but without internet> MY CHOICE!
    When he turns 18,moves out,& pays for his own phone he can do what he wants and have what he wants. Until then he gets what i give him or he gets nothing at all. It has nothing to do with trust but more or less the fact that im not going to put temptation in his face when the world is allready throwing it @ him from every angle imaginable.. Simple parenting made easy. Belive me i pick and choose my battles and i refuse to make this a battle therefore its not even an option.


    A BB without internet loses a lot of its main functions. I would strongly suggest getting a different type of phone if you dont want him to have internet. Happy Parenting..
    12-19-09 08:44 PM
  11. Nalinith's Avatar
    Seriously, turning the net off on a BB? This wants to make me cry! I could understand if the person who was receiving the phone was under the age of 15. I just don't see much point in blocking/disabling the network on a 16 year old.

    Also, reading through this thread. If your trying to keep them from certain stuff... they are still going to find it.
    "If there is a will, there is a way".
    12-19-09 09:01 PM
  12. Laura Knotek's Avatar
    I do not have any kids, but if I did, I would be more concerned about "sexting" than the Internet. Sexting May Place Teens at Legal Risk - Gadgetwise Blog - NYTimes.com A kid could be labeled a sex offender for life if he or she was convicted of "sexting."
    12-19-09 09:10 PM
  13. phreddyl's Avatar
    A 16 year old does not need a blackberry-
    12-19-09 09:55 PM
  14. phreddyl's Avatar
    Oh yeah and GO YANKEES!!!
    12-19-09 09:56 PM
  15. Mamaluka's Avatar
    Porn addiction because you watch porn on your blackberry in school, and because you view it at home? Hmm, let me think about that. So, when I showed my friends in school the naked pics from Hustler that I had taped to the inside of my locker, was I a porn addict? When myself and my 3 friends walked half a mile to our tree fort so we could all check out the stolen Playboys we took from our dads secret stash, were we addicts too? Why is everything an addiction today? What happened to just being a horny 16 year old? Shinkodachi, don't get so bent on believing you're some kind of uncontrollable addict, son....it will pass. Soon, you will be messing around with the real thing and then the fun begins. By the way, there's no shame in what you're doing...from what you describe. Calm down.
    Disclaimer: if you find yourself locked in your room for 2 days straight, not eating, isolating yourself and doing nothing but watching porno...its not being a porn addict...you're insane, and need psychiatric care.

    Posted from my CrackBerry at wapforums.crackberry.com
    12-19-09 10:32 PM
  16. oasissux's Avatar
    I do not have any kids, but if I did, I would be more concerned about "sexting" than the Internet. Sexting May Place Teens at Legal Risk - Gadgetwise Blog - NYTimes.com A kid could be labeled a sex offender for life if he or she was convicted of "sexting."
    The internet presents all the same dangers and then some. And with the proliferation of smartphones, it's all the same.

    Maybe US lawmakers should use a little common sense and rethink some of their stupid laws regarding nude pics.
    12-19-09 10:32 PM
  17. calvinc's Avatar
    There is no point in trying to control his web access if he's 16. If he wanted to look to porn or other inappropriate sites, he could easily do so at his friends' places, internet cafes, libraries, etc.
    12-20-09 12:30 AM
  18. cherryjuice's Avatar
    True but as a parent you don't make it YOUR fault that it happens. This thread has gotton WAY outta context~ the point IS:

    NO I don't believe you can put parental controls on a BB.

    Posted from my CrackBerry at wapforums.crackberry.com
    12-20-09 01:56 AM
  19. KasiCatastrophe's Avatar
    You would need to contact your carrier to see what options they can offer you. I'm sure most carriers offer some type of parental control on phones. I know Sprint, the Nextel side anyway, allows you to put certain restrictions on their phones. My in-laws got a phone (a dumbphone) for my sister-in-law, who is 13, and she is unable to use the web on it even though it is part of their family plan. If they can block the web on dumbphones I'm pretty sure they can on smartphones.


    It seems to me that disabling "net" functionality on the phone will also disable it's use for email, BBM, facebook and countless other applications. Without the core functions of email and BBM, why bother giving someone a BB?
    *puts on flame retardant suit*

    Because at the end of the day, it is just a cell phone. So many people on this site put these phones up on a pedestal as if they are some extraordinary higher being, but they aren't. It is just a phone.

    This is a debate that has gone on for a long time and will continue as long as BlackBerry phones are around. Push email, the web, and BBM may be perks that are offered with these phones but they are in no way a necessity.

    If the OP wants to give his/her child their old Curve, it is their right. It is also their right as a parent to restrict access to the web on said phone; no matter how old the child is until the kid is 18 and paying their own cell phone bill.

    Posted from my CrackBerry at wapforums.crackberry.com
    12-20-09 06:53 AM
  20. Tripster's Avatar
    You would need to contact your carrier to see what options they can offer you. I'm sure most carriers offer some type of parental control on phones. I know Sprint, the Nextel side anyway, allows you to put certain restrictions on their phones. My in-laws got a phone (a dumbphone) for my sister-in-law, who is 13, and she is unable to use the web on it even though it is part of their family plan. If they can block the web on dumbphones I'm pretty sure they can on smartphones.

    It seems to me that disabling "net" functionality on the phone will also disable it's use for email, BBM, facebook and countless other applications. Without the core functions of email and BBM, why bother giving someone a BB?


    *puts on flame retardant suit*

    Because at the end of the day, it is just a cell phone. So many people on this site put these phones up on a pedestal as if they are some extraordinary higher being, but they aren't. It is just a phone.

    This is a debate that has gone on for a long time and will continue as long as BlackBerry phones are around. Push email, the web, and BBM may be perks that are offered with these phones but they are in no way a necessity.

    If the OP wants to give his/her child their old Curve, it is their right. It is also their right as a parent to restrict access to the web on said phone; no matter how old the child is until the kid is 18 and paying their own cell phone bill.

    Posted from my CrackBerry at wapforums.crackberry.com
    +1 and lmfao at "puts on flame retardant suit"!
    12-20-09 08:06 AM
  21. BigBadWulf's Avatar
    Amen to all those who believe parents should parent. I've seen the effects of blind trust, and while I'm sure most kids would be fine, a parent can never know for sure whether their child is one of them, without constantly supervising their behavior. Let them be free enough to think they are doing what they want, while you keep an eagle's eye out to catch them as they start to fall.





    From all the TBLers, to our CrackBerrian brethren.
    May God bless you and yours during this holiday season.

    Posted from my CrackBerry at wapforums.crackberry.com
    12-20-09 08:28 AM
  22. afropoika's Avatar
    (just to clarify my situation: I got psychological help when I asked for it, only at age 15/16 did porn affect my social life negatively. Now I'm "clean" so to say as I classified it as a drug. All you need are the Heroine Diaries and to listen to Sixx AM - Van Nuys)

    Oh, and I've played around with the real deal

    Posted from my CrackBerry at wapforums.crackberry.com
    12-20-09 12:39 PM
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    07-12-10 01:27 PM
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