Android device with classic BlackBerry design
- BlackBerry Android Phone with classical design.
As I already mention in my last post I highly admire the size and shape of the classic BlackBerry devices like the Bold, the Curve etc.
I loved the Q10 and used it as daily driver. It troubled me when WhatsApp shut down it´s support for BBOS10 but I convinced enough friends to install BBM on their Android/iOS devices so I could still text with most of my contacts.
Now BBM is gone (BBM is not identical with the existing BBMe) and a smartphone unable to use a (free) internet based texting messenger in my eyes is not suitable as a daily driver.
So, why won't nobody release a BlackBerry that uses Android OS and comes with a classical BlackBerry Design.
For my taste it should look like the "Q10" but if it was more like the "BlackBerry Classic" I would still buy it.
Why isn't there something like that? Don´t we BlackBerry Fans / customer base love a classical BlackBerry design?01-03-20 12:09 PMLike 0 - BlackBerry Android Phone with classical design.
As I already mention in my last post I highly admire the size and shape of the classic BlackBerry devices like the Bold, the Curve etc.
I loved the Q10 and used it as daily driver. It troubled me when WhatsApp shut down it´s support for BBOS10 but I convinced enough friends to install BBM on their Android/iOS devices so I could still text with most of my contacts.
Now BBM is gone (BBM is not identical with the existing BBMe) and a smartphone unable to use a (free) internet based texting messenger in my eyes is not suitable as a daily driver.
So, why won't nobody release a BlackBerry that uses Android OS and comes with a classical BlackBerry Design.
For my taste it should look like the "Q10" but if it was more like the "BlackBerry Classic" I would still buy it.
Why isn't there something like that? Don´t we BlackBerry Fans / customer base love a classical BlackBerry design?
The KEY² was about as small as Android can be and remain functional.
Maybe something like the heavy-modified KaiOS version of Firefox OS would fit better with your imagined form-factor. It's designed more as a dumbphone+.01-03-20 12:32 PMLike 0 - The entire Android ecosystem is designed for a large touch-screen interface. It simply does not port well to a tiny square screen.
The KEY² was about as small as Android can be and remain functional.
Maybe something like the heavy-modified KaiOS version of Firefox OS would fit better with your imagined form-factor. It's designed more as a dumbphone+.
Dumbphones in general are a cool concept but on the other hand I do want to check my emails, look up a Map and definitely use a messenger.
I thought of this as a "slim smartphone", dumbphone+ would also make a lot of sense though.
As far as I know KaiOS doesn't have support from WhatsApp yet even though it has been announced repeatedly.
Couldn't they modify Android instead. They already modified it to work with the Keyboards etc.
If there was a device that had:
- a physical Keyboard
- classic BlackBerry Design
- access to the most common messengers
that would be pretty much enough for me to buy it. This is btw pretty much what any BlackBerry device was before WhatsApp ended support for BBOS and before BBM dissapeared (Yes I'm saying it dissapeared bcs BBMe is not BBM)01-03-20 01:11 PMLike 0 - You're right with that. Android wouldn't make a lot of sense on something like the Q10.
Dumbphones in general are a cool concept but on the other hand I do want to check my emails, look up a Map and definitely use a messenger.
I thought of this as a "slim smartphone", dumbphone+ would also make a lot of sense though.
As far as I know KaiOS doesn't have support from WhatsApp yet even though it has been announced repeatedly.
Couldn't they modify Android instead. They already modified it to work with the Keyboards etc.
If there was a device that had:
- a physical Keyboard
- classic BlackBerry Design
- access to the most common messengers
that would be pretty much enough for me to buy it. This is btw pretty much what any BlackBerry device was before WhatsApp ended support for BBOS and before BBM dissapeared (Yes I'm saying it dissapeared bcs BBMe is not BBM)01-03-20 01:26 PMLike 0 - You're right with that. Android wouldn't make a lot of sense on something like the Q10.
Dumbphones in general are a cool concept but on the other hand I do want to check my emails, look up a Map and definitely use a messenger.
I thought of this as a "slim smartphone", dumbphone+ would also make a lot of sense though.
As far as I know KaiOS doesn't have support from WhatsApp yet even though it has been announced repeatedly.
Couldn't they modify Android instead. They already modified it to work with the Keyboards etc.
If there was a device that had:
- a physical Keyboard
- classic BlackBerry Design
- access to the most common messengers
that would be pretty much enough for me to buy it. This is btw pretty much what any BlackBerry device was before WhatsApp ended support for BBOS and before BBM dissapeared (Yes I'm saying it dissapeared bcs BBMe is not BBM)01-03-20 01:27 PMLike 0 - You're right with that. Android wouldn't make a lot of sense on something like the Q10.
Dumbphones in general are a cool concept but on the other hand I do want to check my emails, look up a Map and definitely use a messenger.
I thought of this as a "slim smartphone", dumbphone+ would also make a lot of sense though.
As far as I know KaiOS doesn't have support from WhatsApp yet even though it has been announced repeatedly.
Couldn't they modify Android instead. They already modified it to work with the Keyboards etc.
If there was a device that had:
- a physical Keyboard
- classic BlackBerry Design
- access to the most common messengers
that would be pretty much enough for me to buy it. This is btw pretty much what any BlackBerry device was before WhatsApp ended support for BBOS and before BBM dissapeared (Yes I'm saying it dissapeared bcs BBMe is not BBM)
It does basic email, it has a browser and it has apps.
Those that use BB10 because of the productivity they feel only it offers... might not like KaiOS at all. But those BB10 users that just need a basic phone might find it does all they need. But generally that hardware is pretty limited as is the availability in different markets. You live in India you might find a few option, you live in the USA.... not so much.01-03-20 02:10 PMLike 0 - Welcome to the club. A compact Bold style messaging appliance like you and I want just isn't in the foreseeable cards. Neither of the two dominant platforms is even slightly compatible with the concept. What possible incentive would Google, for example, derive from optimizing MY personal efficiency? For minimizing MY handset time and distraction? Tamagotchi pets thrive on maximum attention after all... Lol.
If you or I don't like it, it's not like there's a truly competitive option... ? I'm still squeezing the last minute of use out of my Bolds but far from fully functional, at this point.R1R likes this.01-03-20 02:32 PMLike 1 -
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I loved the Q10 and used it as daily driver. It troubled me when WhatsApp shut down it´s support for BBOS10 but I convinced enough friends to install BBM on their Android/iOS devices so I could still text with most of my contacts.
Now BBM is gone (BBM is not identical with the existing BBMe) and a smartphone unable to use a (free) internet based texting messenger in my eyes is not suitable as a daily driver.
https://www.whatsapp.com/android01-03-20 05:10 PMLike 0 - If that is really your only issue, you can download and use the Android version on your Q10 just fine. Get it here;
https://www.whatsapp.com/android01-03-20 05:27 PMLike 0 -
Didn't expect that at all but it works perfectly. What a crazy world.
Thank you!01-04-20 02:05 AMLike 0 - KaiOS is somewhere between Dumbphone and Smartphone....
It does basic email, it has a browser and it has apps.
Those that use BB10 because of the productivity they feel only it offers... might not like KaiOS at all. But those BB10 users that just need a basic phone might find it does all they need. But generally that hardware is pretty limited as is the availability in different markets. You live in India you might find a few option, you live in the USA.... not so much.01-04-20 07:53 AMLike 0 - 01-04-20 12:17 PMLike 0
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I'm running android whatsapp on my Passport SE and I can only get it to vibrate and flash the led, but no ringtone at all. And I'm only able to set notifications on the OS settings, the App settings don't change anything.01-04-20 06:15 PMLike 0 - I've played around with those notifications for quite a while and never really reached a satisfactory conclusion. You have to set half of the notifications on the OS settings and the other half through the app settings. I think how I had it set last was; on the OS side, set notification light and vibration to on, then on the app settings choose your notification tone. It's not very consistent though, because sometimes the OS will interrupt the app when it's playing the tone, and other times vise-versa. I also found that after a hard reboot it would sometimes revert back to the default tone. That's what I ending up leaving it at, after even going as far as reloading the OS to try and get it to work as I'd have liked it to. Hopefully someone comes along with a real solution...01-04-20 06:54 PMLike 0
- Yes, I'm having the same results. Sometimes it work (kinda), most of the time it doesn't. It works when you have the app open and the device waked up though.01-04-20 06:59 PMLike 0
- I've played around with those notifications for quite a while and never really reached a satisfactory conclusion. You have to set half of the notifications on the OS settings and the other half through the app settings. I think how I had it set last was; on the OS side, set notification light and vibration to on, then on the app settings choose your notification tone. It's not very consistent though, because sometimes the OS will interrupt the app when it's playing the tone, and other times vise-versa. I also found that after a hard reboot it would sometimes revert back to the default tone. That's what I ending up leaving it at, after even going as far as reloading the OS to try and get it to work as I'd have liked it to. Hopefully someone comes along with a real solution...I've played around with those notifications for quite a while and never really reached a satisfactory conclusion. You have to set half of the notifications on the OS settings and the other half through the app settings. I think how I had it set last was; on the OS side, set notification light and vibration to on, then on the app settings choose your notification tone. It's not very consistent though, because sometimes the OS will interrupt the app when it's playing the tone, and other times vise-versa. I also found that after a hard reboot it would sometimes revert back to the default tone. That's what I ending up leaving it at, after even going as far as reloading the OS to try and get it to work as I'd have liked it to. Hopefully someone comes along with a real solution...01-04-20 08:12 PMLike 0
- I've played around with those notifications for quite a while and never really reached a satisfactory conclusion. You have to set half of the notifications on the OS settings and the other half through the app settings. I think how I had it set last was; on the OS side, set notification light and vibration to on, then on the app settings choose your notification tone. It's not very consistent though, because sometimes the OS will interrupt the app when it's playing the tone, and other times vise-versa. I also found that after a hard reboot it would sometimes revert back to the default tone. That's what I ending up leaving it at, after even going as far as reloading the OS to try and get it to work as I'd have liked it to. Hopefully someone comes along with a real solution...01-05-20 09:34 AMLike 0
- In my case, I run WhatsApp on my PP Se and haven't even looked at settings. Every time I have a WhatsApp message, or whatever, I hear the sound I have set for notifications from WA (Ok, correction here; I did set a new ringtone form the WhatsApp settings...) and the notification is there on the Hub.01-05-20 04:34 PMLike 0
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