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- Hmm...I'm confused by the complaints about the invitation sequence...
It is much easier to setup a BBM account and then just put your PIN into your facebook details than get a mobile number (yes, this is a ridiculous comparison because most people need or already have a mobile number).
When I hit "Invites" in BBM and the "Sugggested" tab, all my friends using BBM with their PIN in facebook show up (or who are registered with BBM with the same email address as the facebook one) in there...all I need to do is tap the invitation button and it sends them a BBM Contact request. If I scroll further down, I can mail people I have on facebook that don't have their PIN listed or aren't using the same email address, it sends them the email with all the details.
I get that it isn't as easy as just opening whatsapp and already having all your contacts already in there...but I find that I talk to the people I have on BBM more often than on whatsapp, because I went out of my way to invite/accept them so they're actually worth more to me than just a name I happen to have in my phonebook.
Most of the time I don't want those people to be able to message me for little effort and almost for free but because of Whatsapp, they can do this without a hassle...except it is a massive hassle for me.
I far prefer whitelisting people to blacklisting them...
I get that a lot of people just want convenience and this is obviously why Whatsapp has done well. I guess I just wish that most people weren't so...blas� about privacy and/or security.02-23-14 06:30 PMLike 0 -
BlackBerry tells users "You chose how to share your information - BBM uses PINs instead of phone numbers or email addresses so that it's more private, and you always control who can contact you"
Which is misleading.. (..the part about not using emails is a bold faced lie.. lol, it definitely uses BBID emails and suggests them with no option to opt out)
The fact is, you don't NEED to have the contacts PIN or even their BBID associated email in order to invite them. You can send invites to any email address or phone number (which sends via text), which sends the link www.pin.bbm.com/YourPinHere to your contact (which is the easiest way to share your PIN, imo)
This also works from the menu > share pin screen02-23-14 06:52 PMLike 0 -
- Actually inviting is extremely simple.. or at least it would be if BlackBerry wasn't misleading users on the description page and during the app setup.
BlackBerry tells users "You chose how to share your information - BBM uses PINs instead of phone numbers or email addresses so that it's more private, and you always control who can contact you"
Which is misleading.. (..the part about not using emails is a bold faced lie.. lol, it definitely uses BBID emails and suggests them with no option to opt out)
The fact is, you don't NEED to have the contacts PIN or even their BBID associated email in order to invite them. You can send invites to any email address or phone number (which sends via text), which sends the link www.pin.bbm.com/YourPinHere to your contact (which is the easiest way to share your PIN, imo)
This also works from the menu > share pin screen
Posted via CB1002-23-14 07:58 PMLike 0 - What you are saying is a different discussion. But my statement was probably not entirely correct. INVITING people is easy. Just push 2 buttons. Maybe select an email id too. That is easy. But then the trouble starts for the invitee. So far, I have not found one single soul who was clear about which steps to perform and when. At least I had to tell everybody that they had to invite me back. As per now, I still have 9 invitations open, since more than 4 days, of people that I will have to call to tell them that they now have to invite me. Or, to ask if they are done with installing bbm, so that I can invite them a 2nd time.
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I send them something like
"If you don't have bbm already.. yur a slowpoke, hurry up n go to www.bbm.com and install bbm. When u finish installing click this link to add me www.pin.bbm.com/YourPinHere "
It's not that it's difficult, like I tried to imply, it's because blackberry confuses people about the process and doesn't help much. The www.pin.bbm.com address should be for invites only, it shouldn't have the download bbm button. Both links should be shared in the invite
Perhaps the people who haven't accepted your invite either didn't download bbm or don't want you on their bbm jks
Edit : but my biggest problem is I don't have ios or android devices to test on. I know when you email an invite to a BlackBerry device, the invite will show within the Bbm app. Ios and android: they have to open the email manuallyNinjaB likes this.02-23-14 08:25 PMLike 1 - I'd like to reiterate that in my experience people that make new BBIDs (almost everyone that installs BBMX) do not automatically show up in 'suggestions'. And they do not see suggestions on their end either.
Or at least not until they confirm their email address (another separate step), or maybe there is some other time-delay.
Since BBMX was released I have not seen a single new suggested contact, some of them must have tried the app though.
Of course sending PINs or URL-links is easy, it just does not feel 'automatic', and people expect that nowadays.
BlackBerry 10 signed.02-23-14 09:14 PMLike 0 - I'd like to reiterate that in my experience people that make new BBIDs (almost everyone that installs BBMX) do not automatically show up in 'suggestions'. And they do not see suggestions on their end either.
Or at least not until they confirm their email address (another separate step), or maybe there is some other time-delay.
Since BBMX was released I have not seen a single new suggested contact, some of them must have tried the app though.
Of course sending PINs or URL-links is easy, it just does not feel 'automatic', and people expect that nowadays.
BlackBerry 10 signed.
Check within the contacts app. I have over 100 suggestions in the contacts app and only 17 within bbm..02-23-14 09:20 PMLike 0 - 02-23-14 11:58 PMLike 0
- When I invite people to bbm that don't use bbm, or if I don't now if they use it
I send them something like
"If you don't have bbm already.. yur a slowpoke, hurry up n go to www.bbm.com and install bbm. When u finish installing click this link to add me www.pin.bbm.com/YourPinHere "
It's not that it's difficult, like I tried to imply, it's because blackberry confuses people about the process and doesn't help much. The www.pin.bbm.com address should be for invites only, it shouldn't have the download bbm button. Both links should be shared in the invite
Perhaps the people who haven't accepted your invite either didn't download bbm or don't want you on their bbm jks
Edit : but my biggest problem is I don't have ios or android devices to test on. I know when you email an invite to a BlackBerry device, the invite will show within the Bbm app. Ios and android: they have to open the email manually
No Android or iOS user who is not interested in understanding the bbm invitation process in deep will do what you suggested.
And, i know exactly why the users i invited don't respond. They have most likely installed BBM and think they are now connected to me, but they are not. They have to invite me back. And, as they don't show in suggestions (why, by the way?), I don't see that they have registered either and therfore will not become aware that I should invite them a 2nd time now.
The invitation/acceptance/finding users process is a nightmare and the biggest roadblock to bbm becoming more successfull instantly.
Posted via CB10Last edited by gnirkatto; 02-24-14 at 05:46 AM.
02-24-14 03:45 AMLike 0 - I am sceptical. Two Russians who developed their own encryption algorithms and who promise the world that everything is totally safe.
Okay ?!Richard Buckley likes this.02-24-14 05:49 AMLike 1 - Ugh. Another local impartial consumer protection TV show (Radar) talks about alternatives to Whatsapp. They pretty much tell you Telegram is not better, or probably even less secure than WA. And a German organization issues a privacy warning about Whatsapp.
But for other alternatives they show the following list. BBM is not even on it:
The conclusion is pretty much: there need to be new trendsetters. As long as you see people in your IM list change to a new program, you automatically follow, no matter what that alternative is. Too bad you do not see whether you change to BBM or not, unless you tell them yourself.02-24-14 03:47 PMLike 0 -
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I think BBM should really be careful.
Posted via CB1002-24-14 05:07 PMLike 0 - Ugh. Another local impartial consumer protection TV show (Radar) talks about alternatives to Whatsapp. They pretty much tell you Telegram is not better, or probably even less secure than WA. And a German organization issues a privacy warning about Whatsapp.
But for other alternatives they show the following list. BBM is not even on it:
The conclusion is pretty much: there need to be new trendsetters. As long as you see people in your IM list change to a new program, you automatically follow, no matter what that alternative is. Too bad you do not see whether you change to BBM or not, unless you tell them yourself.
You say they tell you that telegram is NOT better, that it's less secure?
Then why is it the very first app in the image you posted?
The implication is that the image is of their own suggestions, isn't it?
Sent from my iPad using CB Forums02-25-14 01:28 AMLike 0 - I think the image just reflected the current popularity of the IM apps in our region.
They interviewed some IT specialist on security/privacy to talk about how trustworthy TG is. And their opinion was it probably is just as 'secure' as WA, but maybe a bit less transparent.
Basically the choice you make is WA+FB, or TG+VKontakte. Both are separate IM apps somehow connected to a large social network. And both claim the social network side will never affect the IM.
The overall opinion was the same: if TG does become the next big thing, it is not because of security, but because TG adds contacts like WA.
BlackBerry 10 signed.02-25-14 02:04 AMLike 0 - Okay. But I don't think there's anything particularly remarkable about that. Security has never been much of a selling point for consumer devices. As BlackBerry can well attest.
Thanks for link though. I've been using Telegram heavily for a couple weeks now, and appreciate any new info I can find.
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