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- OmnitechDragon SlayerBased on a limited test today with someone using an iPhone with iOS 6, it seems that BBM stopped sending "D's" and "R's" after the person's iPhone went into sleep mode.
Once they re-woke up the device and entered the lock password (the BBM app was already in the foreground), the D's and R's got sent back.
What happens with something like WhatsApp under the same circumstances?11-04-13 06:30 PMLike 0 - Based on a limited test today with someone using an iPhone with iOS 6, it seems that BBM stopped sending "D's" and "R's" after the person's iPhone went into sleep mode.
Once they re-woke up the device and entered the lock password (the BBM app was already in the foreground), the D's and R's got sent back.
What happens with something like WhatsApp under the same circumstances?
Posted via CB1011-04-13 09:28 PMLike 0 - OmnitechDragon Slayer
If that's true of most messaging apps with iOS 6, that certainly could explain many of the complaints here.
There may indeed be some architectural limitations with iOS 6 then. In theory the app could wake up on a timer ie every 5 minutes to check for messages to process, but even if that were possible it might not be so good from a battery life POV.11-04-13 11:11 PMLike 0 - If that's true of most messaging apps with iOS 6, that certainly could explain many of the complaints here.
There may indeed be some architectural limitations with iOS 6 then. In theory the app could wake up on a timer ie every 5 minutes to check for messages to process, but even if that were possible it might not be so good from a battery life POV.
Posted via my Z1011-04-13 11:24 PMLike 0 -
BTW, I added yesterday a friend using a Galaxy S4. Wow, I was impressive. Extremely fast. D's and R's instantly. Same experience as chating with my gf z10. I think BlackBerry really improved the service in the last updates.
Posted via my awesome BlackBerry Z1011-05-13 04:40 AMLike 0 - Awesome! Thanks!
BTW, I added yesterday a friend using a Galaxy S4. Wow, I was impressive. Extremely fast. D's and R's instantly. Same experience as chating with my gf z10. I think BlackBerry really improved the service in the last updates.
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Posted via CB1011-05-13 06:28 AMLike 0 - If that's true of most messaging apps with iOS 6, that certainly could explain many of the complaints here.
There may indeed be some architectural limitations with iOS 6 then. In theory the app could wake up on a timer ie every 5 minutes to check for messages to process, but even if that were possible it might not be so good from a battery life POV.
Posted via CB1011-05-13 06:29 AMLike 0 -
Posted via my awesome BlackBerry Z1011-05-13 06:57 AMLike 0 -
Posted via CB1011-05-13 07:20 AMLike 0 -
- OmnitechDragon Slayer
In my opinion, there is no real need to manage expectations if no other communications app has that level of functionality on that platform.
That's like expecting a car dealer trying to sell a Toyota Yaris to someone to "manage expectations" that it doesn't accelerate like a Porsche 918.
Unless you think almost all the potential iOS BBM users are all longtime BBM users who for some silly reason assume the iPhone is going to work just like their BlackBerries did. ("Hey, where's my hardware keyboard..???")11-05-13 12:05 PMLike 0 - In my opinion, there is no real need to manage expectations if no other communications app has that level of functionality on that platform.
That's like expecting a car dealer trying to sell a Toyota Yaris to someone to "manage expectations" that it doesn't accelerate like a Porsche 918.
Unless you think almost all the potential iOS BBM users are all longtime BBM users who for some silly reason assume the iPhone is going to work just like their BlackBerries did. ("Hey, where's my hardware keyboard..???")
Posted via CB1011-05-13 01:19 PMLike 0 - OmnitechDragon Slayer
Actually there is plenty of evidence in this thread that a lot of people are seeing prompt delivery most of the time. It's hard to make accurate sweeping generalizations about the performance of something that close to 100 million people are using, from the posts of a couple dozen people here.
That said, I agree that BlackBerry in general has been horrible at managing expectations and communicating with users proactively. Thus when they do screw something up (like the 10.1 MR update debacle where lots of people lost tons of stored SMS messages), they drive people away from the platform that might have stayed if they knew about a workaround or way of recovering all the messages they just lost.11-05-13 02:01 PMLike 0 - Actually there is plenty of evidence in this thread that a lot of people are seeing prompt delivery most of the time. It's hard to make accurate sweeping generalizations about the performance of something that close to 100 million people are using, from the posts of a couple dozen people here.
That said, I agree that BlackBerry in general has been horrible at managing expectations and communicating with users proactively. Thus when they do screw something up (like the 10.1 MR update debacle where lots of people lost tons of stored SMS messages), they drive people away from the platform that might have stayed if they knew about a workaround or way of recovering all the messages they just lost.
Posted via CB1011-05-13 04:11 PMLike 0 -
- So new issue. I sent a very long message through BBM and didn't go through at all. All my gf got was a blank message. Retried exactly 6 times and did not work. I copied the message and sent it in two parts and it worked. Tried resending the whole message after that, still no go. Anyone with a similar problem?11-05-13 10:20 PMLike 0
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Posted via CB1011-05-13 11:22 PMLike 0 -
No D, No Delivery.
I'm not buying this "sometimes the message is delivered without the D" B.S.11-06-13 10:17 AMLike 0 -
Then again, I haven't tried it since Victoria said they made some tweaks, and doubt I ever will.
I don't have time to constantly install/uninstall apps and run my friends in an endless circle of messaging app switch hoopla.
I have more important things to do these days.11-06-13 11:22 AMLike 0 - OmnitechDragon Slayer
Which is precisely why jumping to sweeping conclusions here based on a few anecdotal accounts is not wise. People's experiences will vary, and it makes matters even worse when they encounter someone with a different experience than their own and then ridicule them for "not adding to the discussion", as if that data is immaterial. Of course it is not. We need MORE data, not less.
Then your historical experiences at this point have little applicability to people's current BBM reality.
I don't blame you, but by the same token as we have seen here, the service seems to be neither 100% reliable nor 100% unreliable. Whether it is significantly worse than the major competition remains to be seen, especially if, as according to a couple of people here, WhatsApp has the same issue on iOS6 when the device goes into sleep mode.Danny Ocean likes this.11-06-13 12:03 PMLike 1 - So is the issue that they just aren't seeing a system notification, or are they actually opening the BBM app while they have good internet connectivity, giving it time to sync, and not seeing any evidence of your sent message?
Which is precisely why jumping to sweeping conclusions here based on a few anecdotal accounts is not wise. People's experiences will vary, and it makes matters even worse when they encounter someone with a different experience than their own and then ridicule them for "not adding to the discussion", as if that data is immaterial. Of course it is not. We need MORE data, not less.
Then your historical experiences at this point have little applicability to people's current BBM reality.
I don't blame you, but by the same token as we have seen here, the service seems to be neither 100% reliable nor 100% unreliable. Whether it is significantly worse than the major competition remains to be seen, especially if, as according to a couple of people here, WhatsApp has the same issue on iOS6 when the device goes into sleep mode.
Posted via CB1011-06-13 12:38 PMLike 0 - In my testing I found that if the app was not running on iOS and Android devices the messages is delivered but because the app is not running then the delivery indicator "D" is not sent until the app is opened and running. I cannot speculate as to why this is the case but I would love for it to to be fixed. Most people will leave the app running but for the ones that don't is where this becomes a problem. In the end the way I see it this is just one of the reasons why a Blackberry is better for doing communications then other platforms. None the less this needs to be fixed because to each their own and I would not want everyone to be using the same device. I like choices and competition.Rello and Thesmartmale like this.11-06-13 01:14 PMLike 2
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