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In fact, the app never even registers for location services.10-22-13 10:14 PMLike 0 - The thing is I can turn off location services and cellular data on my iPhone and BBM still works fine. So apparently it doesn't need GPS or cellular data. They just chose not to publish it for iPod for some reason.
In fact, the app never even registers for location services.10-22-13 10:49 PMLike 0 - huh? If you turn these off, and the app still works fine, then the app didn't actually need them.Icarus3000 likes this.10-22-13 10:52 PMLike 1
- The thing is I can turn off location services and cellular data on my iPhone and BBM still works fine. So apparently it doesn't need GPS or cellular data. They just chose not to publish it for iPod for some reason.
In fact, the app never even registers for location services.10-22-13 10:59 PMLike 0 - The application still reads that your device has a cellular radio, it accesses your gps for location but if you turn gps off, it still locates you using your wifi and cellular radios using cell tower triangulation, also what model is the ipod in question here? what OS version?
This is on an iPhone. My point is that since the app operates normally (sending and receiving messages and updates) without cellular data and without location services, then it must be that the app doesn't actually require cellular data or location services to work.
However in the App Store, BlackBerry has for some reason requested that the app be available only to devices with cellular radios.Last edited by app_Developer; 10-22-13 at 11:29 PM.
Icarus3000 and darkshin0b1 like this.10-22-13 11:12 PMLike 2 - It is impossible on iOS to read a user's location without asking CLLocationManager. This app is definitely not doing that, else it would appear on the list of apps which have requested location.
This is on an iPhone. My point is that since the app operates normally (sending and receiving messages and updates) without cellular data and without location services, then it must be that the app doesn't actually require cellular data or location services.
However in the App Store, BlackBerry has requested that the app be available only to devices with cellular radios.10-22-13 11:27 PMLike 0 - It is impossible on iOS to read a user's location without asking CLLocationManager. This app is definitely not doing that, else it would appear on the list of apps which have requested location.
This is on an iPhone. My point is that since the app operates normally (sending and receiving messages and updates) without cellular data and without location services, then it must be that the app doesn't actually require cellular data or location services to work.
However in the App Store, BlackBerry has for some reason requested that the app be available only to devices with cellular radios.
Posted via my Z10app_Developer likes this.10-23-13 06:02 AMLike 1 - It is impossible on iOS to read a user's location without asking CLLocationManager. This app is definitely not doing that, else it would appear on the list of apps which have requested location.
This is on an iPhone. My point is that since the app operates normally (sending and receiving messages and updates) without cellular data and without location services, then it must be that the app doesn't actually require cellular data or location services to work.
However in the App Store, BlackBerry has for some reason requested that the app be available only to devices with cellular radios.
Is there any reason besides what I said before why this shouldn't work?10-23-13 07:09 AMLike 0 - Instagram this is what I get when running the bbm app on my iPod touch 5 ios 6.0.1
Is there any reason besides what I said before why this shouldn't work?
BlackBerry chose to limit distribution of the app to devices with cellular radios. That doesn't mean the app needs cellular data to actually work. I can turn off cellular data and the app works as normal.
And again, the current iOS version does not use location.10-23-13 07:15 AMLike 0 - No it's only on iPods and on every iPod, so it must be this app is only working on cellular devices or cellular capability such as iPhones and iPads10-23-13 07:18 AMLike 0
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Here is what I am saying. BlackBerry is preventing the app from being distributed to iPods. They may be checking for iPhone on launch as well, although that would be horribly hackish. It's also possible that they are using a JB check.
However, you can turn off your cellular connectivity and the app works. Therefore the app does not actually technically need cellular data to function. And the app does not actually get the user's location. That's all I was saying.
This limitation seems to be by choice, which I can understand.10-23-13 07:28 AMLike 0 - We may be saying the same thing in different ways.
Here is what I am saying. BlackBerry is preventing the app from being distributed to iPods. They may be checking for iPhone on launch as well, although that would be horribly hackish. It's also possible that they are using a JB check.
However, you can turn off your cellular connectivity and the app works. Therefore the app does not actually technically need cellular data to function. And the app does not actually get the user's location. That's all I was saying.
This limitation seems to be by choice, which I can understand.
Posted via my Z1010-24-13 09:24 AMLike 0 - I think blackberry can't handle if they available BBM on iPod and iPad (again), you know that everyone are really excited with this, but the facts are blackberry tried really hard to hold the excitement with those waiting list, I think that blackberry not ready yet to handle all this, IMHO.
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IG: dennychandraaa10-26-13 06:08 AMLike 0 - There is a simple reason, why bbm isn't available on iPads and non-cellular tablets!
They don't want messages sent to devices which may lay around for hours/days! As of now bbm can be used only on a single device! If they may upgrade their protocol to handle multiple devices, we also will see Apps for non-cellular devices!
But I'm sure before seeing multidevice we will see Chanels Voice and Video!
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Posted via CB1010-26-13 06:32 AMLike 0 - I can't agree with any of the current arguments against expanded iOS support. Here are my responses to the "Big 3" issues I've heard so far:
"Messages won't get delivered"
1. BBM is famous for showing D for delivered, and R for read. If you're on WiFi and it goes offline for some reason, your messages won't get Delivered, and you'd know it.
"iPod and iPad without cellular radio could be offline for days"
2. Please don't try to tell me how and when my iPod and iPad are online. As was mentioned above, some people have to contend with cellular data connection issues all day. I don't, and my iPod is connected to the internet as much as my cellphone (thru my cellphone -- which is an unsupported Android, ugh).
"Blackberry can't deal with the extra devices"
3. If Blackberry wants to limit iPod and iPad devices from signing-up because the are worried about the extra volume, then they have other, bigger problems. As a free app that will eventually be monetized, they should want all the users they can get, especially ones that might be very light, casual users.
Over on the other thread we're trying to figure out how to get it to run:
http://forums.crackberry.com/general...-touch-862873/
It installs fine on my iPad 3 WiFi (no cell) and my iPod Touch 5... and runs fine on the iPad, but not where I need it -- iPod. It's pretty frustrating to be told when and how I should be using my internet-enabled devices. Blackberry is still holding onto the SMS 2.0 concept but they're not getting kickbacks from cellphone companies so there's just no reason for this anymore.10-26-13 05:36 PMLike 0 - You are light years ahead of me... How do you get it onto an iPad3 WiFi (no cell) ? Can you share your source for the ipa? (publicly or pm me?). Thanks!10-26-13 09:02 PMLike 0
- Even it's jailbroken you can only install it but it won't work as you can see in the pic I sent earlier in this post10-26-13 09:37 PMLike 0
- What's weird is BBM installed on all my ipads that are wifi only from the official app store. When you search BBM in the app store if you click the app for more information and click install it says unsupported. However if I search BBM and click install without clicked for more details it installed fine. Its done the same thing on all my ipads in my house
Posted via CB10lexor1969 likes this.10-26-13 10:58 PMLike 1 - The application still reads that your device has a cellular radio, it accesses your gps for location but if you turn gps off, it still locates you using your wifi and cellular radios using cell tower triangulation, also what model is the ipod in question here? what OS version?10-29-13 01:34 PMLike 0
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