[Thanontos]

To try and keep the OP to a decent length you will find the 5 most common OS's to be released or leaked. You can find the rest of the current OS's by using either the 4.7, 5.0, Hybrid shortcuts below. Hope this helps to make things less jumbled and confusing. As always feedback is welcomed!

If you do not see anything that specifically applies to you, please inform myself of the apps you use or things you are looking forward to in an OS and someone will point you into the right direction.

(please no posts that .151 is best because I say so.) <--lets be specific here. and please let me know anything to add to help the crackberrians out.

Before We Begin
INSTALL A NEW OS/ UPGRADE
DOWNGRADING TO A DIFFERENT OS
FIXING A BRICKED PHONE

Handy Tools To Have
BBSAK-This Handy tool wipes your phone completely and even backs up your 3rd party apps (now that's service!)
Shrink-A-OS-If you're tired of having all those options you don't use, such as Japanese language you can take it out easily (who likes useless junk? Not I!)

Quicklink to 4.7 OS Info
Quicklink to 5.0 OS Info
Quicklink to Hybrid Info


5.0.0.230
5.0.0.230 FULL Download link
Facebook for 5.0 OS OTA!!!
Myspace for 5.0 OS OTA!!!

Hands down if you are going to try out a 5.0 OS, this is the one to load onto your phone. Also since the release of the updated facebook/myspace, you can get them working with 5.0.0.230! It has a working camera, flick scrolling, threaded SMS, and IM apps do work!!! You will see memory in the high 40's upon boot-up. Battery and memory pretty stable. A few glitches with the screen re-orienting, but nothing as of yet requiring a battery pull to fix. Memory management is fantastic, however battery life seems to be lacking a bit.

MEDIA PLAYER ISSUES WHILE MUTING-fix: pause and un-pause to correct mute


WORKING FACEBOOK!
BBM 5.0 using BBM 5.0.0.33
Themes are working
Charge indicator is back
camera is fast
Flick Scrolling
Threaded SMS
Accelerometer is SUPER QUICK
Sound quality a little better
Keyboard lag GONE
WORKING APPS
BB App World *OTA*
Facebook/myspace
Poynt
Viigo
Buzz Me Pro
Opera Mini 5
Google Maps
Blink (led color changer)
Slacker
Quick Launch (Right side of screen)


No Tabbed Browsing
Battery life seems diminished
NON WORKING APPS
Quickpull
Shazam
Meter Berry
BerryBuzz
Meter Berry
Application Center
Stop Tilt *I put not working as some users have menu glitches on 5.0*


5.0.0.191
5.0.0.191 Download Link
- Thanks to AgTitan06
Facebook for 5.0 OS OTA!!!
Myspace for 5.0 OS OTA!!!


I'd like to thank Jlevy and DenzelWashington for giving me the information in this post, and credit (ALL CREDIT) should be given to them when it leaks to us.

*This link contains RIM internal tools. After Installing the OS to your computer remove Internal Tools from your control panel before installing to your phone*

After the horrible 5.0.0.154, this one seems to be somewhat promising. It is VERY STABLE so far. Included now is THREADED SMS, and FLICK SCROLLING, which to some is more pros than any cons, forget about your camera. Even trying to use the camera reboots your phone, and almost thinking about using the camera reboots your phone, so in short, don't use the camera. Great memory stability, decent battery.

MEDIA PLAYER ISSUES WHILE MUTING-fix: pause and un-pause to correct mute

FLICK SCROLLING IS FINALLY HERE
Threaded SMS
BBM 5.0 using BBM 5.0.0.33
Flick Scrolling
Network shows 3G
Much more stable
Some Themes do work with sound
Predictive Text
WORKING APPS
BB App World *OTA*
Facebook
Myspace
IM APPS
Stoptilt 2.1.2.14
Slacker
Talk Lock
Google Maps
Quick Launch
Pattern Lock
Shazam
Poynt
YouTube

NO CAMERA
Video camera reboots device
Phone charges but doesn't show it
No Tabbed browsing
Screen Errors *fixed by orientating from vertical to horizontal and back.
NON-WORKING APPS
Pandora *pauses at the end of every song*
Meter Berry
BerryBuzz
Quickpull (all versions) *use camera instead*


4.7.0.167
4.7.0.167 Download Link

After all the recent 5.0 leaks to drop for the 9530, it is about time we see some 4.7's leaking! With the 5.0 builds being an incomplete OS, this leak gives you some room to explore with. It is similar to .151 with a few key differences. First, you can now stream slacker/pandora! Second, themes will cause errors, very few if any work so it is best to just stick to the default as you will start to see ghost messages, no alert sounds, etc. if you are using a theme. And last, when installed some people report having less memory available upon boot as compared with .151, but only by about 5-9MB less. Battery is comparable to .151 and memory stability is quite good.


MEDIA PLAYER No issues yet!!!

Slacker/Pandora
Great Memory
Less keyboard Lag when on browser
Transitions on Point
Quick and Responsive
Fast Camera
Accelerometer is Great
Quick shortcut by clicking time
WORKING APPS
MeterBerry
VZ NAV
Slacker/Pandora
Facebook/Myspace
IM apps
BBM5
Talk Lock
Quickpull
Poynt
Quicklaunch




No Themes
Rare, but unable to delete messages
Memory drops about 5MB's after a boot but stabilizes
Sound errors/ notification errors with Themes
NON-WORKING APPS
Storm Slider (ability to assign button)




4.7.0.151
4.7.0.151 Download Link

Very stable OS, has great signal, (for me) and even better battery life. Would've been a great OS if it was able to run Slacker and Pandora. Memory will stay high and only fluctuate by small amounts. Battery pull MAY be needed only 3-4 days.

*BE SURE TO REMOVE THE VENDOR FILE FROM C:>program file>common files> research in motion> apploader.


MEDIA PLAYER Working Correctly

Very stable OS
Has a very minimal memory leak
Quick accelerometer
Virtually no random reboots
WORKING APPS
Poynt
Google Maps
Vlingo
Talk Lock
Storm Slider
Quick Pull (all versions)


Errors with a lot of themes
NON-WORKING APPS
Slacker/Pandora



4.7.0.148
4.7.0.148 Download Link

This was Verizon's BIG official, and while it was miles ahead of .75, it wasn't where consensus said it should be. Expect decent signal and ok battery life. This OS would be great if I didnt have to pull the battery every day. You will often find your memory dropping into the teens depending on the amount of apps you have installed. However this OS is probably the most compatible OS with respects to any apps/themes.


MEDIA PLAYER ISSUES-Song muting issues and indexing issues from the micro SD card-fix for micro SD card: Remove and re-insert SD card to force a rescan

Stable OS
Compatible with streaming radio
Most themes work
WORKING APPS
Slacker/Pandora
Poynt
Google Maps
Talk Lock
Vlingo
Storm Slider
Quick Pull (all versions)


Greater chance for memory leaks
Some lag with accelerometer
Very rare reboot
NON-WORKING APPS
don't know of any as of yet.

Thanks goes out to those who contributed and Developers of the tools. I have learned a lot from our users and hope to pass on the knowledge I gained in ONE helpful post.

If anyone would like to contribute please PM me or add a reply and I will try as soon as I can to upgrade this post.
Also please inform me of any links not working correctly

Hope this helps people that are trying to be steered into the right direction, again if you are seeking help please post apps your interested in using and the features your hoping to see. At all costs!!! Avoid asking which OS is best, I'm trying to get you to the one best suited to YOUR needs.

[lyricidal]

well done! hopefully this will prevent those "what os should I install" threads - but I'm sure we'll still see more

great idea though!

[BB_SHAWN]

I'm on Lyricidal's Beta 6v8, the about shows .167 and Pandora works fine. OS is smooth. Overall one of the best operating systems for the phone. Still not where the phone should be though in my opinion hybrid, leak or offical.

[rw6497]

I second lyrical. Very useful post especially to newer users confused about hybrids. Nicely done

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[Thanontos]

Thanks for the support guys, Ill update it later tonight after work. I forgot to add some more hybrids and other things to look for when installing them. I am hoping to include the "how to" links and also link to other useful tools such as BBSAK, and Shrink-a-OS. And what to do when your BBM5 disappears. Well off to work, and please post any useful things you feel should be added to the 1st post!

[rahul.pillai]

Below are the most recent and more commonly used OS's for the 9530. I will try and list compatible apps and what bugs and fixes you should expect to encounter when using these OS's.

If you do not see anything that specifically applies to you, please inform myself of the apps you use or things you are looking forward to in an OS and someone will point you into the right direction.

(please no posts that .151 is best because I say so.) <--lets be specific here. and please let me know anything to add to help the crackberrians out.

4.7.0.148
4.7.0.148

Expect decent signal and ok battery life. This OS would be great if I didnt have to pull the battery every day. You will often find your memory dropping into the teens depending on the amount of apps you have installed.

Stable OS
Compatible with streaming radio
Most themes work
WORKING APPS
Slacker/Pandora
Poynt
Google Maps
Talk Lock
Vlingo
Storm Slider
Quick Pull (all versions)


Greater chance for memory leaks
Some lag with accelerometer
Very rare reboot
NON-WORKING APPS
don't know of any as of yet.

4.7.0.151
4.7.0.151

Very stable OS, has great signal, (for me) and even better battery life. Would've been a great OS if it was able to run slacker and Pandora. Memory will stay high and only fluctuate by small amounts. Battery pull MAY be needed only 3-4 days.

*BE SURE TO REMOVE THE VENDOR FILE FROM C:>program file>common files> research in motion> apploader.

Very stable OS
Has a very minimal memory leak
Quick accelerometer
Virtually no random reboots
WORKING APPS
Poynt
Google Maps
Vlingo
Talk Lock
Storm Slider
Quick Pull (all versions)


Errors with a lot of themes
NON-WORKING APPS
Slacker/Pandora


4.7.0.151 base Hybrids
Lyricidals 6V9 Hybrid
OOAKDPC's 7.99b

Hybrid can be tricky to install, especially if you are new to the OS scene. Please follow their specific instructions when installing. I have linked both to the .exe installers and the only pre-req is to have .151 installed and to remove all other OS's

Both are very stable
Solid Memory
Quick
Good Accelerometer
Nice Transitions
WORKING APPS
*because these are .151 base you will find it will be the same list as 4.7.0.151

Still no Slacker/Pandora
I was getting better battery life on straight .151
Still some problems with themes
NON-WORKING APPS
Slacker/Pandora


*Note: OOAKDPC has a 7.99 with the .132 radio, HERE That will allow you to use slacker/pandora; but you may have greater memory leak.

5.0.0.140
5.0.0.140

This one was expected to be great, and while it failed to some, it made some strides forward. This one has great battery life, and Memory is like a rock. It has a new feature (TABBED BROWSING) and is very responsive and accelerometer is the best. HOWEVER expect a few random reboots when turning the phone with keyboard up, and when trying to open too many tabs in the browser. Themes cause many errors so please just stick to the default zen theme here. Also dont look forward to using social apps on here, though I believe social scope is available to work to at least get you to your beloved face book.

MOST RESPONSIVE
Browser is quick
Touchscreen has almost no lag
Tabbed Browsing
WORKING APPS
Slacker/Pandora
Poynt
Google Maps
Storm Slider
Talk Lock


NO THEMES
Themes cause errors
Ghost Messages/Not being able to find them
Random reboots
Alarm clock has to be patched to work
NON-WORKING APPS
VLingo
Facebook
MySpace
StopTilt
App World
Application Center
Meterberry's ability to reboot the device
BBFileScout
Berrybuzz
Messaging apps (AIM, YAHOO, etc.)
VZ Navigator
QuickPull


*Quickpull V2.1 is said to work, but I have not confirmed. The list on non working apps is only temporary as when they get updated by RIM to work on 5.0 we will be able to use them.

I have to got to work now, but Ill finish this up by including 5.0.0.154 (don't know who would want it though) and adding to each listing.

hope this helps people that are trying to be steered into the right direction, again if you are seeking help please post apps your interested in using and features your interested in. At all costs avoid asking which OS is best, Im trying to get you to the one best suited to YOUR needs.

BBFileScout & Berrybuzz works for me on 5.0.0.140
Berrybuzz did not with 5.0.0.154

[Psykonate]

4.7.0.150

cannot send sound files in a text message.

Good idea!

[dbone15]

Very usefull post. Like Lyric said it will hopefully avoide the what os should I use questions. If your Pandora and Slacker are working on Lyrics hybrids, you are using either the 148 or 132 radio, not 151.

[swiedom]

pandora works fine on my .151. no hybrid here either

[Thanontos]

pandora works fine on my .151. no hybrid here either

I had problems with using the .151 radio with pandora. After about an hour it would say insufficient memory and wouldn't allow me to run anything. A battery pull fixed the issue but I wouldn't recommend using .151 with streaming the radio unless you are willing to do battery pulls to correct the issue and it isn't a permanent fix.
I will note that u can use them in .151 but with expected problems and fix the OP when I get home.

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[TaZ52083]

Wow nice info.

[TaZ52083]

Looks like you did your homework there

[Thanontos]

I have personally used each OS. But my opinion isn't what should determine what is a good OS. it'll get better when I get home

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[patches152]

BBFileScout & Berrybuzz works for me on 5.0.0.140
Berrybuzz did not with 5.0.0.154

why did you quote the whole OP just to write one line of text?

[patches152]

this is one of those threads that should be stickied...i'm seriously considering requesting to a MOD that in order to post in any of the forums, you have to study and do a quiz, and the information will all come from stickied posts, similar to this one, which IMO should be stickied or sent to help/how to ASAP...

[austinarita99]

Thanks Thanontos! I am personally using 5.0.0.140, and I think that the pros FAR outweigh the cons. I mean, with Instango and SocialScope and/or SnapTu, the app compatibility issue is bearable for me. However, when I reverted to .151, I immediately changed back to 5.0 because of the BABY **** smooth appa switcher, messages, music, and home screen. Not to mention the smooth and consistent transitions, and the new media center icon. There are a billion more new cool and nice things, and they make my whole Storm experience SO much better.
I feel like 5.0 is a great step forward (with the exception of 5.0.0.145, which in my opinion wasn't really an OS more like an experiment, haha).
But again, thank you for helping out those who always ask WHICH ONE IS BETTER OMGZz?!?

[patches152]

also, make sure you add the REBOOTS and media player physical keys issue to 5.0.0.140 for the negative aspects...

[DrewCSchultz]

I second the "sticky" motion. It might not clear up all the "which OS should I install" posts (since noobs don't search), but it will provide a quick response.

[patches152]

agreed, the sticky serves two purposes:

1) for the knowledgable and capable users of this site to help themselves, and find answers on their own

2) for us lurking helpers to have a quick reference to link the n00bs when they ask the same question over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over, over 9000 times

[Thanontos]

Agree for the sticky. Or ill just have to keep posting in here to keep it close to the top lol. Thanks for the input again and ill be sure to update the first post.

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[suby723]

I also agree on a sticky for this thread, It would help clean up all the junk threads with zero replies or with only one reply with SEARCH!! As long as this thread will be updated with new OS's when we get them this will be great and very useful to new members.

[Thanontos]

Still looking for any input on the new 9500 builds.

I updated a few things in the OP and am suggesting that when someone posts a new thread about best OS, point them here to be educated a little bit! lol.

[rahul.pillai]

why did you quote the whole OP just to write one line of text?

Actually 2 lines

Well, on second thoughts was kinda naive on my part to copy the complete OP!

[pkcable]

Title changed at the request of the OP. As for sticky, let me think about it. It IS great info. Maybe we'll move it to the Tips, How To, FAQ area, which has ONLY sticky type threads. Members can not start threads there so the good threads stay on the first page.

[Thanontos]

Title changed at the request of the OP. As for sticky, let me think about it. It IS great info. Maybe we'll move it to the Tips, How To, FAQ area, which has ONLY sticky type threads. Members can not start threads there so the good threads stay on the first page.

Thank you PK. This title seems much more fitting. As for sticky or not, whatever helps get some good points across works for me. I have it linked in my sig and will maintain it for as long as I can.