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  1. givechanceachance's Avatar
    I asked this question on a BBMe group and Denis Fedotenko responded that they have a Linux desktop version in the works however BlackBerry has not decided on releasing it yet.

    I asked to get some kind on reception on the Freenode IRC server on a few channels and got a mixed reaction (mind that most of Freenode community is all open source diehards) however I got some folks saying they loved blackberry back in the day and had no idea BlackBerry was still a brand in smart phones. Some of those folks looked into the blackberry website on the BBMe and were excited about it. I also pointed them to this security spec sheet:
    https://hand.is/bb/BBMeSecurity.pdf

    Hard to find BlackBerry link to security spec sheet:
    https://docs.blackberry.com/content/...urity_Note.pdf

    I asked if folks can write letters in anticipation and he gave me and the group this email:

    > bbmenterprisesupport@blackberry.com <
    Last edited by givechanceachance; 05-29-19 at 09:08 AM. Reason: BB link to BBMe Security
    05-29-19 09:04 AM
  2. Chuck Finley69's Avatar
    I asked this question on a BBMe group and Denis Fedotenko responded that they have a Linux desktop version in the works however BlackBerry has not decided on releasing it yet.

    I asked to get some kind on reception on the Freenode IRC server on a few channels and got a mixed reaction (mind that most of Freenode community is all open source diehards) however I got some folks saying they loved blackberry back in the day and had no idea BlackBerry was still a brand in smart phones. Some of those folks looked into the blackberry website on the BBMe and were excited about it. I also pointed them to this security spec sheet:
    https://hand.is/bb/BBMeSecurity.pdf

    Hard to find BlackBerry link to security spec sheet:
    https://docs.blackberry.com/content/...urity_Note.pdf

    I asked if folks can write letters in anticipation and he gave me and the group this email:

    > bbmenterprisesupport@blackberry.com <
    What does a Linux version do for us not IT guys that don't understand the significance?
    05-29-19 09:15 AM
  3. conite's Avatar
    What does a Linux version do for us not IT guys that don't understand the significance?
    It would expand BBMe user base from 217 to 231.
    05-29-19 09:19 AM
  4. Chuck Finley69's Avatar
    It would expand BBMe user base from 217 to 231.
    LMAO
    05-29-19 09:20 AM
  5. givechanceachance's Avatar
    What does a Linux version do for us not IT guys that don't understand the significance?
    There are Microsoft haters (for reasons I won't go into here, some security related [backdoors]) that drive a lot of folks to consider Linux desktop environments, the most common and user friendly being Ubuntu.

    Releasing BBMe for Linux will draw in more BBMe users on that end.

    Ubuntu and others are user friendly, maybe moreso than Windows. I understand that OS/X for many is a viable alternative of which BBMe runs. Though not everyone will want to run Apple hardware; it is not very reliable for some of the more rugged needs.
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    05-29-19 09:22 AM
  6. givechanceachance's Avatar
    You folks are so cynical on BB, love it though I don't think this sort of negative reinforcement helps BB any other than for the BB support prianhas to have something to fight!

    Do you think as moderators and admins, that you should have reserved the better interests of BlackBerry and their products?....I see a lot of dimissing among you all admins and mods lately as if you sit ashore watching and parading a sinking ship all from negative perceptions and being complicit with it.
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    05-29-19 09:36 AM
  7. Dunt Dunt Dunt's Avatar
    Think someone at BlackBerry said they had BLEND for Android "in the works".... two years ago.

    Might not be much to converting the Android app.... but you release it, you have to support it. There is a cost to doing this, what is the reward for BlackBerry doing it?

    Now maybe if BlackBerry's UEM was able to run on Linux, and if a lot of UEM Administrators were running Linux on their management consoles..... they might want this and ask for it. But AFAIK, BlackBerry's UEM still requires a Windows Installation.
    05-29-19 09:37 AM
  8. Dunt Dunt Dunt's Avatar
    You folks are so cynical on BB, love it though I don't think this sort of negative reinforcement helps BB any other than for the BB support prianhas to have something to fight!

    Do you think as moderators and admins, that you should have reserved the better interests of BlackBerry and their products?....I see a lot of dimissing among you all admins and mods lately as if you sit ashore watching and parading a sinking ship all from negative perceptions and being complicit with it.
    What is the Linux userbase right now? Of those how many are running only Linux in a production setting? Of those how many won't have a smartphone to use BBMe with?

    Realistically how many additional BBMe users do you see a Linux version bringing to BlackBerry? Do you see it as really being worth their spending resources on releasing and SUPPORTING such a product?

    I like Linux and wish it was better supported by vendors, but I understand why it isn't and don't want BlackBerry wasting resources that could be better spent.
    05-29-19 09:49 AM
  9. Chuck Finley69's Avatar
    You folks are so cynical on BB, love it though I don't think this sort of negative reinforcement helps BB any other than for the BB support prianhas to have something to fight!

    Do you think as moderators and admins, that you should have reserved the better interests of BlackBerry and their products?....I see a lot of dimissing among you all admins and mods lately as if you sit ashore watching and parading a sinking ship all from negative perceptions and being complicit with it.
    Most of us are neither admins or mods but that's irrelevant. CB was formed as fan site and it's a forum to support the betterment and hopefully survival of BlackBerry and now BBMo and it's related products. Those products can only survive if the Android/iOS flagship and WhatsApp supporters are given actual benefits that matter to actual userbase. Then benefits have to be further paid for by said prospective userbase.
    05-29-19 10:03 AM
  10. thurask's Avatar
    There are Microsoft haters (for reasons I won't go into here, some security related [backdoors])
    https://www.cbc.ca/news/technology/b...ages-1.3620186
    05-29-19 10:23 AM
  11. givechanceachance's Avatar
    Won't be possible with BBMe I think.

    Security here:
    https://hand.is/bb/BBMeSecurity.pdf

    I think it is unfair to compare BBM to BBMe this way.

    The big question is will BB have to deal with introducing backdoor in the future should criminals and such prefer this platform, making otherwise BB a liability and enabler.
    05-29-19 10:28 AM
  12. conite's Avatar

    Do you think as moderators and admins, that you should have reserved the better interests of BlackBerry and their products?
    I think BBMe Consumer subscriptions HURT BlackBerry.

    The needle hasn't even moved on Play Store downloads since before the Emtek announcement. Even at $7 per year, it's a losing proposition in my opinion.

    And if through some freak chance, it even comes close to breaking even, then it's a serious misallocation of resources within BlackBerry to even be fiddling with it.

    I am very pro-BlackBerry, some would even say a shill. But I think they should spend their limited resources on things with a significant ROI - and they are doing a good job at it lately. This is just a distraction.
    05-29-19 10:56 AM
  13. Dunt Dunt Dunt's Avatar
    I think BBMe Consumer subscriptions HURT BlackBerry.

    The needle hasn't even moved on Play Store downloads since before the Emtek announcement. Even at $7 per year, it's a losing proposition in my opinion.

    And if through some freak chance, it even comes close to breaking even, then it's a serious misallocation of resources within BlackBerry to even be fiddling with it.

    I am very pro-BlackBerry, some would even say a shill. But I think they should spend their limited resources on things with a significant ROI - and they are doing a good job at it lately. This is just a distraction.
    If BlackBerry wanted the extra BBMe business... they could have made the transition much more seamless than the did.
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    05-29-19 11:26 AM
  14. Denis Fedotenko's Avatar
    I asked this question on a BBMe group and Denis Fedotenko responded that they have a Linux desktop version in the works however BlackBerry has not decided on releasing it yet.

    I asked to get some kind on reception on the Freenode IRC server on a few channels and got a mixed reaction (mind that most of Freenode community is all open source diehards) however I got some folks saying they loved blackberry back in the day and had no idea BlackBerry was still a brand in smart phones. Some of those folks looked into the blackberry website on the BBMe and were excited about it. I also pointed them to this security spec sheet:
    https://hand.is/bb/BBMeSecurity.pdf

    Hard to find BlackBerry link to security spec sheet:
    https://docs.blackberry.com/content/...urity_Note.pdf

    I asked if folks can write letters in anticipation and he gave me and the group this email:

    > bbmenterprisesupport@blackberry.com <
    What would be the preference? Debian package or AppImage?
    06-07-19 07:28 AM
  15. givechanceachance's Avatar
    Deb package I can use to test right away. Thanks. My window manager for X is just simply Motif.
    06-07-19 07:34 AM
  16. givechanceachance's Avatar
    What would be the preference? Debian package or AppImage?
    Hi Denis,

    I just sent an email to the bbmenterprisesupport@blackberry.com request for testing deb package.
    06-11-19 03:08 PM
  17. givechanceachance's Avatar
    Denis, what compression did you use for the exe setup of BBMe? I tried some 7zip unziper and no go.

    Trying in Wine and I just need to extract the msi installer. Wine on Debian is unable to handle this sort of an execution.

    Or if you can provide link to the msi file, then I can test the Windows version in Wine with Debian 10 as the host.
    07-31-19 12:02 PM
  18. CrackPriv's Avatar
    It would expand BBMe user base from 217 to 231.
    Stop your hate against BBMe!
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    07-31-19 12:09 PM
  19. givechanceachance's Avatar
    Stop your hate against BBMe!
    He wrote that months ago...I hope his attitude has become less focused on negative aspects of business through his display of being facetious. This sort of attitude, facetious or not can only encourage negative outcomes especially as someone with a reputation that folks appeal to.
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    07-31-19 12:23 PM
  20. givechanceachance's Avatar
    I wonder if all tech and communications companies have to comply to some "behind the curtain" espionage laws (internal.)

    It is something we have to adapt to and the fight is too great. What security BBMe focuses on is making sure some hacker or mob etc is unable to use any publicly / open source available tools to compromise BBMe security.

    I am good with that as it is out of our control. However as dissent gets momentum of what ever government of province the dissent is against, then you got carrier pigeons and smoke signals to work with.

    Old tech fights back :P

    There is a similar motif here with class and economic structure in the film "Snow Piercer" when relating to revelations of this sort of setup / tactic on the cusp.

    This world be a much better place if when we all arrived in what was originally thought to be India (Bharat) if the Europeans adapted and learned from the way of tribalism rather than raping and pillaging in the smoke screen of unjust and just wars.
    Last edited by givechanceachance; 07-31-19 at 12:37 PM. Reason: thought to word correction
    07-31-19 12:36 PM
  21. Chuck Finley69's Avatar
    I wonder if all tech and communications companies have to comply to some "behind the curtain" espionage laws (internal.)

    It is something we have to adapt to and the fight is too great. What security BBMe focuses on is making sure some hacker or mob etc is unable to use any publicly / open source available tools to compromise BBMe security.

    I am good with that as it is out of our control. However as dissent gets momentum of what ever government of province the dissent is against, then you got carrier pigeons and smoke signals to work with.

    Old tech fights back :P

    There is a similar motif here with class and economic structure in the film "Snow Piercer" when relating to revelations of this sort of setup / tactic on the cusp.

    This world be a much better place if when we all arrived in what was originally thought to be India (Bharat) if the Europeans adapted and learned from the way of tribalism rather than raping and pillaging in the smoke screen of unjust and just wars.
    Does this mean you’re feeling better??
    07-31-19 09:35 PM
  22. givechanceachance's Avatar
    Physically more endurance; mentally, my manic side is intruding a bit in some social circles. I'm manic and I know it because I'm up late (wee hours) and wake up early so my presence may turn delirious towards the end of the week if it has not already. In this mental state I do not know whether my writings are concise, appropriate or delusional.

    I get my med shot Friday and a week late because of the push back with the surgery.
    07-31-19 09:46 PM
  23. Chuck Finley69's Avatar
    Physically more endurance; mentally, my manic side is intruding a bit in some social circles. I'm manic and I know it because I'm up late (wee hours) and wake up early so my presence may turn delirious towards the end of the week if it has not already. In this mental state I do not know whether my writings are concise, appropriate or delusional.

    I get my med shot Friday and a week late because of the push back with the surgery.
    Take care of yourself and feel better.
    08-01-19 06:45 AM
  24. givechanceachance's Avatar
    trying, and mostly good.
    08-01-19 07:31 AM
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