Will BlackBerry return to building its own smartphones?
- As part of a fireside chat with Brian Moynihan, Chairman & CEO of Bank of America during the BlackBerry World Tour Event held in New York last week, the BlackBerry CEO noted he was feeling motivated to get back into phones.
Full story from the Crackberry Blog...skinnymike1 likes this.10-30-19 04:51 PMLike 1 - AGAIN: CALLED IT!!!!!
Damn near everyone on the CB old guard: "Blackberry 10 is not supported, it will die at the end of 2019, we don't know what will happen..."
Me: "Actually, they only said Blackberry World will shut down.."
BBL: "We're officially supporting BB10 services and they're not EOL."
Old Guard: "You all are morons for thinking BBL would ever build phones again, they're a software company, we've talked about this to death, just shut up..."
Me and a few others: "Actually, it may happen, there is some evidence to suggest there's something going on here..."
BBL: "We're going to get back into phones."
Is anyone else detecting a pattern here?!!
Okay old guard, I'm done, start telling us why Chen didn't really say what he said...
Posted via CB10bb9900user2018 and Jake2826 like this.10-30-19 09:27 PMLike 2 - AGAIN: CALLED IT!!!!!
Damn near everyone on the CB old guard: "Blackberry 10 is not supported, it will die at the end of 2019, we don't know what will happen..."
Me: "Actually, they only said Blackberry World will shut down.."
BBL: "We're officially supporting BB10 services and they're not EOL."
Old Guard: "You all are morons for thinking BBL would ever build phones again, they're a software company, we've talked about this to death, just shut up..."
Me and a few others: "Actually, it may happen, there is some evidence to suggest there's something going on here..."
BBL: "We're going to get back into phones."
Is anyone else detecting a pattern here?!!
Okay old guard, I'm done, start telling us why Chen didn't really say what he said...
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Show me where he or anyone from BBL said that.John Albert and skinnymike1 like this.10-30-19 09:32 PMLike 2 - AGAIN: CALLED IT!!!!!
Damn near everyone on the CB old guard: "Blackberry 10 is not supported, it will die at the end of 2019, we don't know what will happen..."
Me: "Actually, they only said Blackberry World will shut down.."
BBL: "We're officially supporting BB10 services and they're not EOL."
Old Guard: "You all are morons for thinking BBL would ever build phones again, they're a software company, we've talked about this to death, just shut up..."
Me and a few others: "Actually, it may happen, there is some evidence to suggest there's something going on here..."
BBL: "We're going to get back into phones."
Is anyone else detecting a pattern here?!!
Okay old guard, I'm done, start telling us why Chen didn't really say what he said...
Posted via CB10
From the screen of my trusty Z10 using the exceptional BlackBerry VKB.Last edited by bb10adopter111; 10-30-19 at 09:58 PM.
10-30-19 09:36 PMLike 3 -
I actually don't think it would be out of the realm of possibility that BlackBerry Limited would try manufacturing their own phones again. But, it would most likely be, as the discussion was based on, limited to corporate use. And, definitely leveraging their understanding of Android as the base OS since they already secure it with their own UEM, and it's a known entity in the corporate world. Tying it to hardware would actually be relatively easy.skinnymike1 and Jake2826 like this.10-30-19 09:49 PMLike 2 -
Posted via CB1010-30-19 09:52 PMLike 0 - That too.
I actually don't think it would be out of the realm of possibility that BlackBerry Limited would try manufacturing their own phones again. But, it would most likely be, as the discussion was based on, limited to corporate use. And, definitely leveraging their understanding of Android as the base OS since they already secure it with their own UEM, and it's a known entity in the corporate world. Tying it to hardware would actually be easy.
From the screen of my trusty Z10 using the exceptional BlackBerry VKB.La Emperor and skinnymike1 like this.10-30-19 09:57 PMLike 2 -
BlackBerry Limited is 100% invested in Android for all of its other endpoint products. If they re-enter the handset market with a secure corporate phone it will be Android-based.
From the screen of my trusty Z10 using the exceptional BlackBerry VKB.10-30-19 10:02 PMLike 0 - AGAIN: CALLED IT!!!!!
Damn near everyone on the CB old guard: "Blackberry 10 is not supported, it will die at the end of 2019, we don't know what will happen..."
Me: "Actually, they only said Blackberry World will shut down.."
BBL: "We're officially supporting BB10 services and they're not EOL."
Old Guard: "You all are morons for thinking BBL would ever build phones again, they're a software company, we've talked about this to death, just shut up..."
Me and a few others: "Actually, it may happen, there is some evidence to suggest there's something going on here..."
BBL: "We're going to get back into phones."
Is anyone else detecting a pattern here?!!
Okay old guard, I'm done, start telling us why Chen didn't really say what he said...
Posted via CB10
I also give the chance of a new Android device between none and tiny.Dunt Dunt Dunt and John Albert like this.10-30-19 10:15 PMLike 2 - I mis-autocorrected . I meant BlackBerry Limited. Corrected.
BlackBerry Limited is 100% invested in Android for all of its other endpoint products. If they re-enter the handset market with a secure corporate phone it will be Android-based.
From the screen of my trusty Z10 using the exceptional BlackBerry VKB.
Posted via CB10bb9900user2018 likes this.10-30-19 10:20 PMLike 1 -
But I think it's a safe bet BlackBerry won't re-enter any handset market where end users are making purchasing decisions
From the screen of my trusty Z10 using the exceptional BlackBerry VKB.Laura Knotek and Jake2826 like this.10-30-19 10:24 PMLike 2 - What we just don't know is what is being requested by corporate, government and military IT and security teams. If there is genuine demand for a more secure device than the consumer-oriented OEMs are currently offering, and if there is a preference for the fully integrated vertical security stack where BlackBerry's IP offers a sustainable advantage, then that would be a completely different business proposition.
But I think it's a safe bet BlackBerry won't re-enter any handset market where end users are making purchasing decisions
From the screen of my trusty Z10 using the exceptional BlackBerry VKB.
Nah, the only feasible way forward is a locked-down android device - enterprise has been scooping up Apple and Knox devices for years.
This is all fairy tale anyway.
If we're talking about some kind of dumbphone+, others would have entered the market if there had been any demand.10-30-19 10:27 PMLike 0 - I think we also need to keep in mind who is currently joining the workforce and has been for some time--people that never used PKB. So even if this pipedream ever happens, I doubt it will include PKBs. We have tons of workers who grew up with VKB and are quite happy and efficient at using them.
That being said, is that what the CB people want--VKB smartphones from BlackBerry? They already have a secure Android option, so I don't see why any of this would include BB10 since many industries rely on apps.10-30-19 10:28 PMLike 0 - And now that we've established that, it seems to me that BBL is quite invested in QNX for many of their endpoints. In fact, they are not using Android in anything they make themselves, to my knowledge...making them completely uninvested in Android for any of their endpoint products.
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The only way I see them developing a third mobile OS is if enterprise leaders are 100% guaranteeing rapid adoption of it. That's not impossible, but I don't see any sign of it happening.
From the screen of my trusty Z10 using the exceptional BlackBerry VKB.Laura Knotek likes this.10-30-19 10:30 PMLike 1 - And now that we've established that, it seems to me that BBL is quite invested in QNX for many of their endpoints. In fact, they are not using Android in anything they make themselves, to my knowledge...making them completely uninvested in Android for any of their endpoint products.
Posted via CB10John Albert likes this.10-30-19 10:30 PMLike 1 - And now that we've established that, it seems to me that BBL is quite invested in QNX for many of their endpoints. In fact, they are not using Android in anything they make themselves, to my knowledge...making them completely uninvested in Android for any of their endpoint products.
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BBL has to maintain investments in working with Android, along with iOS as well, to keep their UEM updated for the customers they are still making money from. And we know Apple ain't gonna let anyone else use iOS.
BB10 has QNX, but QNX is not BB10.app_Developer likes this.10-30-19 10:33 PMLike 1 -
Why would you rail against another True BlackBerry Droid devise or even as a long shot, a BB10 resurrection? Are these things not in line with your critically logical thinking?the_boon and The_Passporter like this.10-30-19 10:40 PMLike 2 -
In that context, I can see BlackBerry partnering with another OEM in a joint venture to develop, manufacture and market such a phone.
From the screen of my trusty Z10 using the exceptional BlackBerry VKB.skinnymike1 likes this.10-30-19 10:43 PMLike 1 - skinnymike1 likes this.10-30-19 10:43 PMLike 1
- AGAIN: CALLED IT!!!!!
Damn near everyone on the CB old guard: "Blackberry 10 is not supported, it will die at the end of 2019, we don't know what will happen..."
Me: "Actually, they only said Blackberry World will shut down.."
BBL: "We're officially supporting BB10 services and they're not EOL."
Old Guard: "You all are morons for thinking BBL would ever build phones again, they're a software company, we've talked about this to death, just shut up..."
Me and a few others: "Actually, it may happen, there is some evidence to suggest there's something going on here..."
BBL: "We're going to get back into phones."
Is anyone else detecting a pattern here?!!
Okay old guard, I'm done, start telling us why Chen didn't really say what he said...
Posted via CB10skinnymike1 likes this.10-30-19 10:44 PMLike 1 - Are you as sure about this as 3 years support for the K1? As sure as, No PKB issues until recently? As sure as, All is fine with BBMo, as recently as 2 months ago? As sure as PIE was coming, one month ago?
Why would you rail against another True BlackBerry Droid devise or even as a long shot, a BB10 resurrection? Are these things not in line with your critically logical thinking?Dunt Dunt Dunt and John Albert like this.10-30-19 10:45 PMLike 2 - Are you as sure about this as 3 years support for the K1? As sure as, No PKB issues until recently? As sure as, All is fine with BBMo, as recently as 2 months ago? As sure as PIE was coming, one month ago?
Why would you rail against another True BlackBerry Droid devise or even as a long shot, a BB10 resurrection? Are these things not in line with your critically logical thinking?
I was always certain that my usage on the KEY² is unaffected by any reported issues with swiping up, yes. I've also said from the beginning that you are unlikely to get the satisfaction you desire with software updates.
I never said all was fine with BBMo. I said I would not entertain rumours until hard deadlines were crossed - which they now have been with Pie.
I'm not railing, I'm recognizing that BB10 is 1000' below ground. It ain't happening.anon(10599419) and skinnymike1 like this.10-30-19 10:49 PMLike 2 - @bb10adopter111 already stated that it would only work as an Android solution. He never said it would be BB10.
I'm saying BB10 is impossible even under those conditions.10-30-19 10:49 PMLike 0 - As much as I would love a resurrection of BB10, as it would be Glorious! I would also be content with a True BlackBerry Android built phone. Bringing QC back to North American standards! But a refresh of a BlackBerry BB10 Passport does make the juices flow! We shall see!
From the screen of my trusty Z10 using the exceptional BlackBerry VKB.10-30-19 10:58 PMLike 0
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