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  1. anon5288998's Avatar
    Hi as a Z10 owner since 1st February, it is a brilliant Phone, but UK price was too high, and is not selling well one high street retailer is clearing out Z10's sim free below half price now 250 GBP /$400, bought a white one as a spare at this price it's a bargain, as for the Z30 will it sell?, it will have serious competition and BlackBerry BB10 phones are in many people's mind no better than the original ones, BlackBerry is not getting the message across that BB10 is up with the competition, if the Z30 price is set too high it will not sell, only I phone fans will pay any price,
    08-26-13 04:38 AM
  2. world traveler and former ceo's Avatar
    Definitely getting one!

    Posted via CB10
    08-26-13 07:33 AM
  3. Pilchard's Avatar
    Hi as a Z10 owner since 1st February, it is a brilliant Phone, but UK price was too high, and is not selling well one high street retailer is clearing out Z10's sim free below half price now 250 GBP /$400, bought a white one as a spare at this price it's a bargain, as for the Z30 will it sell?, it will have serious competition and BlackBerry BB10 phones are in many people's mind no better than the original ones, BlackBerry is not getting the message across that BB10 is up with the competition, if the Z30 price is set too high it will not sell, only I phone fans will pay any price,
    Do you mean Carphone Warehouse at 259.95 or is someone cheaper?
    08-26-13 07:34 AM
  4. Pilchard's Avatar
    My suspicion is that Blackberry will be so keen to make the Z30 a success they will price it low. That may explain the new low price on the Z10 to clear stocks before the Z30 launches. They will make a big splash with 10.2 features, new apps like Instagram, and I cannot help feeling the market will just go "meh!"

    I am loving my Z10, but unless someone actually buys the phone they don't find out how good it really is. I only bought it as I could not resist at 270 and my wife had just bought a Q10 so compatibility was attractive.
    08-26-13 07:37 AM
  5. cleonwayne's Avatar
    how can it sell with no apps?

    Sent from my HTC Glacier using CB Forums mobile app
    08-26-13 08:17 AM
  6. anon5288998's Avatar
    Do you mean Carphone Warehouse at 259.95 or is someone cheaper?
    Amazon 245 sim free, and Q10 390. Genuine EU versions, never had problems buying on Amazon.
    08-26-13 08:18 PM
  7. Pilchard's Avatar
    Amazon 245 sim free, and Q10 390. Genuine EU versions, never had problems buying on Amazon.
    Amazon itself or a reseller on Amazon? Two very different things. Please post a link as I cannot see the 245 sim free price. My wife bought her Q10 from Amazon itself.
    08-27-13 03:51 AM
  8. BB12MX's Avatar
    Liked your analysis ... you do not need to convince us to buy it ... we sure will, people that is not a BB user needs to know that BB10 is again an option for them ... get back to market
    LWKING likes this.
    08-27-13 04:19 PM
  9. PhilipDZ's Avatar
    Z30 won't sell. To low on specs and will be to high on price.

    Posted via CB10
    08-29-13 07:38 AM
  10. mathking606's Avatar
    Z30 won't sell. To low on specs and will be to high on price.

    Posted via CB10
    Well it has similar specs to the moto x and that is priced at 199 on a two year contract so we will have to see. The main problem as to why the current BB10 phones are not selling has to do with the push from carriers(none) and also the current marketing efforts by BlackBerry to change consumer perception of the brand. As well I think it is a bit early to talk about it's success since we do not currently know the full story and if the rumors are correct about the "accessories for mobile computing" the phone may become very popular among enterprise that have been asking for a tablet offering or something close to it.
    08-29-13 09:07 AM
  11. LWKING's Avatar
    Please BlackBerry help me be right!
    09-18-13 05:15 PM
  12. PhilipDZ's Avatar
    I know there are a ton of threads buzzing around the A10 right now, but I felt that this one was a little more unique than the others. I also apologize for the length

    I'm going to try to make this as concise and accurate as possible. If you notice any mistakes, please let me know. I'll address the most obvious issues first.

    Specs: Performance Based Review

    Processor: Dual Core S4 Pro CPU at 1.7 GHz with Quad core GPU
    1. The S4 Pro may appear lackluster at first, but I believe that this setup will make the A10 perform better than just about every Android phone out right now. You have to remember that BB10 isn't Android. The ONLY real processor upgrade over the S4 pro is the 800 and that's only because of the higher clock speed.. All of the other quad core snapdragons are either on par or worse than the S4 Pro for the A10. There are options other than Qualcomm here, but I don't know enough to comment on them.

    2. The current iPhone 5 has a 1.3 GHz dual core A6. Apple can pull this off because their OS is optimized. BB10 already boasts great performance compared to the HTC One and S4 with an S3 era processor, yet the S3 is nothing compared to the Z10 performance wise. Imagine the improvement with a higher clock and a quad core GPU.

    Display: 720p at 295 ppi.
    1. The Z10 and Q10 both had higher pixel densities than the iPhone 5, but the screen on the iPhone 5 was better. Therefore, higher pixel densities don't always make for the best viewing experience. I believe screen brightness and the type of display will hold more weight after a certain ppi ceiling. We'll be getting an S-Stripe pixel arrangement on the Z10. Personally, I'm not sure how that will compare, but we could be in for a surprise here. Let's not knock it quite yet.

    Camera: 8MP
    1. I admit, I too was really hoping for a bit more in this area. However, as long as the camera is better than the Z10, I think it will be adequate. 10.2 is also bringing Panoramic pictures to the A10. A few more software updates could push this along as well.

    Memory: 2 GB of RAM
    1. Adequate.

    2. The iPhone 5 only has 1 GB of RAM to put things into perspective. All the top end phones have 2 GB. While I would personally like to see more so I can run CAD on my phone just to say that I can, the average user will never utilize it. However, there are some people that are powerhouse users. I think the quad core GPU will take care of pretty much everything.

    ** In summary, the A10 could very well be faster than the HTC One, the S4, and the iPhone 5S.

    Specs: Consumer Based Review
    Yes, the A10 may get ripped apart for the 720 p display and the 8 MP camera. I believe these are the only real "weaknesses". For all of you quad core fans, the argument could be made that the A10 is a 6 core phone.

    Display
    Personally, I've always been one to never judge a display until it's in front of your face and in your hand. That's what consumers are going to see when they walk in a store anyways. They will listen to the store reps, but they will purchase with their eyes. If there is no obvious difference between a 1080p screen and a 720p screen, they're not going to care. Besides, the phone is 5 inches!! That's going to carry more weight than the ppi.

    Camera
    If I could change one spec about the A10, it would be the camera. This is where the Z10 will lose some points in the store. A good camera matters to some people, but not to everyone. There are plenty of people out there with DSLR's and good digital cameras that may care about other aspects of the phone. There are also people that prefer to just carry their phone around. This one's up in the air. I can't really judge this.

    Why I think the A10 will sell
    And potentially sell better than the Z10 and Q10. Here is where some of you will disagree with me. I do not believe that specs and features sell phones. To clarify, the specs need to be only as good as it takes for an optimum OS experience. Anything more is unnecessary. I believe that user experience has held more weight in the past and will continue to do so in the future.

    Let's consider HTC. HTC and Samsung have been going at it for years with similarly specced phones. However, Samsung always had the edge on them. And while they still do, HTC has definitely come around. While the aluminum build definitely helped them get noticed, I think if they were still running Sense 4.0, the phone wouldn't sell nearly as well. Up until now, Sense sucked compared to anything Samsung put out. The Sense 5.0 experience coupled with the new, flashy build is what makes people buy the phone now.

    The low specced iPhone5 goes without explanation. It is the lowest specced flagship and is the best selling phone in the world.

    The high specced Optimus phones by LG should also be mentioned. They have great specs, but how many people do you know that actually own them?

    I believe the spec race will end in 2013 as the line of performance difference in phones blur. Experience and design will take over in 2014 more than ever. This further supports my point that specs don't and will not sell phones.

    Blackberry 10
    The Z10 suffered and is still suffering a bit from lack of carrier pushed updates. The random reboots and other kinks certainly did not help with the overall experience of BB10. 10.2 will fix these problems and add much desired features. The app situation will be much better upon the release of the A10, and with the updated support of Android apps, the BB10 experience will be MUCH better and much more fluid. Reviewers won't have as much reason to nit pick as they did in the past and all the more reason to praise it. As long as the A10 is priced reasonably, I think that the A10 will fare much better than the Z10 and Q10 did assuming Blackberry markets the hell out of it

    Thoughts?
    No it won't.

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    09-19-13 09:54 AM
  13. JBML007's Avatar
    I actually believe it will as well. I find a lot of people liked the new BB10, but were attracted to the big screens of the S4. The Z30 will do the job of offering a blackberry big screen alternative for them. The specs the average joe doesnt care about.

    I think the biggest thing for Blackberry here is to market well, push carrier personell to sell the Z30 like crazy, and really make a push to get big apps that arent there there officially.

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    09-19-13 09:58 AM
  14. kevinnugent's Avatar
    I actually believe it will as well. I find a lot of people liked the new BB10, but were attracted to the big screens of the S4. The Z30 will do the job of offering a blackberry big screen alternative for them. The specs the average joe doesnt care about.

    I think the biggest thing for Blackberry here is to market well, push carrier personell to sell the Z30 like crazy, and really make a push to get big apps that arent there there officially.

    Posted via CB10
    So, pretty much everything they've never been able to do up until now. What's changed?
    09-19-13 07:19 PM
  15. LWKING's Avatar
    Hell, I don't even think it'll sell anymore. Being "up for sale" is a bad look. I wish they waited before they announced that. I don't like being wrong.

    The difference is that 10.2 is gold. You can immediately tell the difference when you use the phone. If they price it mid range and market it, they have a good shot. I don't think the resolution will be a deal breaker. The original release was too buggy and the OS confusing because it was new. Hence all the returns. I'm feeling optimistic on the upcoming reviews. I do really wish they had Instagram though... Btw, does anybody know if they upgraded that camera at all?

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    09-20-13 09:11 AM
  16. LWKING's Avatar
    So, pretty much everything they've never been able to do up until now. What's changed?
    They're gonna make Christmas this time

    Posted via CB10
    09-20-13 09:23 AM
  17. Jahcure's Avatar
    They're gonna make Christmas this time

    Posted via CB10
    This! Rim had nothing during the Christmas season last year and I think that hurt them more than anything. Everyone was selling brand new phones while blackberry was selling old stuff.

    Posted via CB10
    09-20-13 09:28 AM
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