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  1. JBML007's Avatar
    No, sorry I meant the surrounding frame. I'm sure that the screen is glass.

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    Ya ok thought so. Pheew

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    09-19-13 02:12 PM
  2. JBML007's Avatar
    Don't be so sure.
    No there is no way due to the touch sensitivity required for bb10 os.

    Thats why I asked haha.

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    Last edited by JBML007; 09-19-13 at 03:53 PM.
    09-19-13 02:13 PM
  3. DivideBYZero's Avatar
    Wouldn't surprise me, until the 9500 all BBs had plastic screens. And since then, the Flagship OS7 device - 9850, had a plastic screen.
    9850 was never a flagship device.

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    09-19-13 03:54 PM
  4. Kean Seng Yap's Avatar
    I'm really awfully disappointed when I saw the price of the z30.. in comparative with z1.. z1 is cheaper than z30 which has lower specs.. fark!! I'm a big bb Dan.. I'm wondering where da hell is bb pricing strategy zzzz...

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    09-19-13 04:06 PM
  5. guygardner73's Avatar
    I'm really awfully disappointed when I saw the price of the z30.. in comparative with z1.. z1 is cheaper than z30 which has lower specs.. fark!! I'm a big bb Dan.. I'm wondering where da hell is bb pricing strategy zzzz...

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    I'm sorry, what price are you referring to?

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    09-19-13 04:20 PM
  6. guygardner73's Avatar
    Wouldn't surprise me, until the 9500 all BBs had plastic screens. And since then, the Flagship OS7 device - 9850, had a plastic screen.
    Ok, BlackBerry doesn't manufacture the surepress touch screen anymore and multi point capacitive has to have glass so your logic is nonexistent.

    Z10STL100-2/10.1.0.4780 O2 Uk
    09-19-13 04:23 PM
  7. guygardner73's Avatar
    My Z10 disagrees, especially when using BBM. That thing needs two cores and an extra battery pack just for itself


    I'm 99% sure you're wrong. They will try to flog them at 550 and gradually lower the price to 500. It's their flagship device and they still think their brand is worth something.
    We shall find out next week. Selfridges is selling for what? 579 or is it 529? The actual high street price at launch will be lower I think. After all, Selfridges is Selfridges.

    Z10STL100-2/10.1.0.4780 O2 Uk
    09-19-13 04:27 PM
  8. LWKING's Avatar
    My 70 year old mother can see the difference between 1080p and 720P. If you can't you need glasses. You sound like my friend who took out her cheap Sony headphone and put in my $200 Shures and said she didn't hear a difference. Turns out she had lost 50% hearing - - ooops. Get it checked.

    Next Android runs just as efficiently or more so than BB10. Sorry - it's just true. You want to compare Android 1.1 to Blackberry - then compare it to BB OS5.

    There is no metal on the casing of the Z30. Its plastic and a glass weave back.
    I'm running 4.3 on a 2013 Nexus 7 with Vanilla Android. It runs fantastic, but BB10 is more efficient and smoother. Sorry -- it's just true. I love my Nexus and my Q10, but BB10 is noticeably more fluid.

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    09-19-13 06:57 PM
  9. Captain_Hilts's Avatar
    Next Android runs just as efficiently or more so than BB10. Sorry - it's just true.
    Anyone who seriously feels compelled to say "sorry - it's just true" without offering any evidence obviously has none to offer.



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    09-20-13 09:44 PM
  10. anon(2729369)'s Avatar
    We shall find out next week. Selfridges is selling for what? 579 or is it 529? The actual high street price at launch will be lower I think. After all, Selfridges is Selfridges.

    Z10STL100-2/10.1.0.4780 O2 Uk
    Selfriges had it at 600, but they've now aligned their prices with CPW, which sells it at 530. They're usually overpriced, so maybe it will break the 500 ceiling, but nowhere near 450.

    Sent from my Z30/3
    09-20-13 10:38 PM
  11. Alex Keb's Avatar
    Can't stand Android OS anymore. It's so ugly!

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    09-20-13 11:09 PM
  12. techvisor's Avatar
    I like how the Z30 looks and BB10 looks nice. Its too bad my company doesn't support BlackBerry because I might have given this device a try. My current phone (HTC Droid DNA) which I love also has 5" screen and for me that is perfect size. We all know BlackBerry has made a lot of mistakes but I think they are right on the money with selecting 5" for display size of Z30.
    09-20-13 11:19 PM
  13. guygardner73's Avatar
    Selfriges had it at 600, but they've now aligned their prices with CPW, which sells it at 530. They're usually overpriced, so maybe it will break the 500 ceiling, but nowhere near 450.

    Sent from my Z30/3
    Carphone Warehouse has got it sim free at 529 also. I'm surprised to say the least. I thought they'd bang this out as a bargain.

    Z10STL100-2/10.1.0.4780 O2 Uk
    09-21-13 01:51 AM
  14. guygardner73's Avatar
    I like how the Z30 looks and BB10 looks nice. Its too bad my company doesn't support BlackBerry because I might have given this device a try. My current phone (HTC Droid DNA) which I love also has 5" screen and for me that is perfect size. We all know BlackBerry has made a lot of mistakes but I think they are right on the money with selecting 5" for display size of Z30.
    I think so too as far as media lovers go it's in line with Samsung and Sony. Big screens seem to be trendy at the moment.

    Z10STL100-2/10.1.0.4780 O2 Uk
    09-21-13 01:54 AM
  15. jedibeeftrix's Avatar
    I'm sorry, what price are you referring to?

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    i can get a Z1 free on a 25 contract, but i need to spend 32 to get a Z30.

    maybe he means this?
    09-21-13 04:02 AM
  16. guygardner73's Avatar
    i can get a Z1 free on a 25 contract, but i need to spend 32 to get a Z30.

    maybe he means this?
    Maybe, but don't forget the Z30 is only available on O2 and talk mobile last I checked. Wait for all the prices to be in before assessing.

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    09-21-13 08:04 AM
  17. tmanthib's Avatar
    I like the Sony Z1 and HTC1, but hate the inefficient and virus prone Android OS, would be better running BB10 with their key pad.

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    09-22-13 12:22 PM
  18. Pete The Penguin's Avatar
    Carphone Warehouse has got it sim free at 529 also. I'm surprised to say the least. I thought they'd bang this out as a bargain.

    Z10STL100-2/10.1.0.4780 O2 Uk
    It's the same price at CPW as my Q10 was at launch. Which I can now pick up for 400 sim-free
    Last edited by CJH_; 09-24-13 at 05:41 AM.
    09-23-13 07:44 AM
  19. guygardner73's Avatar
    It's the same price at CPW as my Q10 was at launch. Which I cna now pick up for 400 sim-free
    We'll have to see what happens in a month lol. I think CPW is having a clearance on the SGS3, it's an interesting repeat of what they did with the Z10 when they knocked the price down to 229. However, I don't think the media will hammer Samsung because it's been reduced to 289. Nobody will say that they are going out of business lol.

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    09-24-13 01:04 AM
  20. Pete The Penguin's Avatar
    We'll have to see what happens in a month lol. I think CPW is having a clearance on the SGS3, it's an interesting repeat of what they did with the Z10 when they knocked the price down to 229. However, I don't think the media will hammer Samsung because it's been reduced to 289. Nobody will say that they are going out of business lol.

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    If the Z30 drops below 400, then maybe...
    09-24-13 05:42 AM
  21. Kevstra's Avatar
    No, YOU need to understand that this oft-touted point of view is not correct. A faster processor helps to run apps and games much faster and better, modern SoCs contain more improved power saving features, faster SoCs help cameras take photos faster, save photos faster and reduce time-to-next-shot. Newer GPUs run games much better and yield better visuals. Page load speeds benefit (real javascript and web code execution, not that rubbish HTML5 score that has little impact on actual rendering speed).

    As far as battery is concerned, your point is laughable when one considers that BlackBerry's QNX usage has not proven to be gentler on Battery life than the Android OS. The PlayBook had middling battery life, the Z10 doesn't have a stellar battery life by any stretch of the imagination...

    You aren't getting the same or better job done here. The Z1 will take photos faster, save them faster, probably take burst shots faster, outscore the Z30 in all browser rendering benchmarks, run demanding apps and games better.

    Not sure why BlackBerry is falling behind on the specs game. Nokia has a 1080p, 6 inch phone with the same chipset in this Z1 and the Galaxy Note 3, ready for release this month or early next month. By October, Windows Phones will have specs rivalling the best on Android. That is the way to play dirty and mix it up with the big boys...and not trotting out a flagship that will get derided for inferior specs.

    I'm not being 'negative' here. I will definitely buy the Z30...my Q10 isn't delivering the goods when it comes to battery life and I miss the larger screen of my old Z10...I just wished my next BlackBerry device would have the cutting edge specs that aren't a big stretch to get. Qualcomm has enough supplied of the S800 chipset to go round, and it isn't that expensive.
    This.

    Great post.

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    09-24-13 09:14 AM
  22. The Big Picture's Avatar
    In Malaysia the Z30 will retail for RM1990 on Oct 5th. That's less than 400 quid.

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    09-25-13 04:16 AM
  23. guygardner73's Avatar
    In Malaysia the Z30 will retail for RM1990 on Oct 5th. That's less than 400 quid.

    Q10-Z10-iP5
    Sweet

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    09-25-13 06:41 AM
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