1. mrfreeze's Avatar
    That Sony Z1 is sooo tempting..
    09-16-13 01:40 PM
  2. red_devil_fan_1999's Avatar
    Cripes, man. What a buzzkill! People like the look of the device, get over it.

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    people are also allowed to express their opinions on this forum. That being said, I think both are pretty ordinary looking
    pantlesspenguin and wtrmlnjuc like this.
    09-16-13 03:25 PM
  3. Captain_Hilts's Avatar
    people are also allowed to express their opinions on this forum. That being said, I think both are pretty ordinary looking
    You're right, I apologize for saying that people don't have the right to express their opinions on this forum...... Wait a minute! I never said that! Whose post were you reading? I'll thank you not to attribute things to me that I didn't say.

    Posted via CB10
    09-16-13 03:30 PM
  4. red_devil_fan_1999's Avatar
    You're right, I apologize for saying that people don't have the right to express their opinions on this forum...... Wait a minute! I never said that! Whose post were you reading? I'll thank you not to attribute things to me that I didn't say.

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    Well I apologise, I didn't realise we were all supposed to fall down and bow before the pinnacle of blackberry technology
    szlevi likes this.
    09-16-13 03:49 PM
  5. tinker2000's Avatar
    We are all different and to each their own. I used to like my Android phone, even though it was shi* hardware (sensation) but it was very customisable and a new os would give me a new phone. It lagged a bit, but everything does....The battery was a damn site better than my Z10 though (in my humble opinion)

    I do love my Z10 though
    09-16-13 04:44 PM
  6. Witmen's Avatar
    I don't know what it is, but I've never been a fan of Sony phones. The newer ones offer the latest and greatest specs, but they still aren't attractive to me for whatever reason. When I think Sony, I just can't think phone LOL
    09-16-13 04:45 PM
  7. Captain_Hilts's Avatar
    Well I apologise, I didn't realise we were all supposed to fall down and bow before the pinnacle of blackberry technology
    Wow, I didn't say that either! Can you read? Use whatever the hell phone you want. Is that clear enough?

    Posted via CB10
    09-16-13 04:54 PM
  8. szlevi's Avatar
    I don't know what it is, but I've never been a fan of Sony phones. The newer ones offer the latest and greatest specs, but they still aren't attractive to me for whatever reason. When I think Sony, I just can't think phone LOL
    Unfortunately a lot more people like that with BB...
    09-16-13 04:55 PM
  9. red_devil_fan_1999's Avatar
    Wow, I didn't say that either! Can you read? Use whatever the hell phone you want. Is that clear enough?

    Posted via CB10
    You like telling people what to do. Maybe you should go plant some beans and tell it to grow, might be more successful there
    09-16-13 07:05 PM
  10. Captain_Hilts's Avatar
    You like telling people what to do. Maybe you should go plant some beans and tell it to grow, might be more successful there
    What the bloody hell are you even talking about? Who is telling who what to do? Are you sure we're responding to each other? If telling people to use what's best for them is somehow authoritarian or bossy, then I guess I'm guilty.

    Posted via CB10
    09-16-13 07:11 PM
  11. Dave Bourque's Avatar
    Wow, I didn't say that either! Can you read? Use whatever the hell phone you want. Is that clear enough?

    Posted via CB10
    It's not clear enough the android fan boys here have some kind of agenda.

    Posted via CB10
    09-16-13 07:59 PM
  12. gng11's Avatar
    FASTTUBE

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    Have it, but Youtube should really be included as an app natively. Android and iOS have 'em.
    09-16-13 11:12 PM
  13. Dave Bourque's Avatar
    Have it, but Youtube should really be included as an app natively. Android and iOS have 'em.
    When developers stop spitting on BlackBerry and start working with them we will see it.

    Posted via CB10
    09-16-13 11:17 PM
  14. 12BW's Avatar
    I need a no icon homescreen clear theme for my bb storm 2 so I can put a picture for homescreen and it want show icons until i press menu button or the screen. Can you make me one or help me find one? Thanks!
    09-17-13 09:58 PM
  15. DivideBYZero's Avatar
    I need a no icon homescreen clear theme for my bb storm 2 so I can put a picture for homescreen and it want show icons until i press menu button or the screen. Can you make me one or help me find one? Thanks!
    Are you Lost?

    Posted via CB10
    09-18-13 02:27 AM
  16. sentano's Avatar
    I need a no icon homescreen clear theme for my bb storm 2 so I can put a picture for homescreen and it want show icons until i press menu button or the screen. Can you make me one or help me find one? Thanks!
    ***
    http://forums.crackberry.com/blackbe...0-themes-f177/
    try looking here...
    09-19-13 06:35 AM
  17. guygardner73's Avatar
    Just WTF are you talking about, seruously? Endurance? Z and Z1 and Z Ultra can withstand drops, dust, sand, heck they can record video underwater...

    Performace? A Snapdragon 800 at 2.2GHz, running Android natively, unlike BB10 which runs in on top of its own stack, inherently slower - and it's a given that everyone will use Android apps because app lineup sucks on BB10, period...
    Z1 is a beast, we know that already, and Z30, if indeed turns out to be the rumored measly old dual-core platform with 720p screens, will be just another outdate device from BB as always, clearly making it impossible to ever fulfill all the promises BB10 supposed to offer...

    Sent from my Xperia T using CB Forums mobile app
    BlackBerry = smooth like baby oil rubbed all over Jessica Alba.

    Android = nails dragged across chalkboard.

    What would have rather be doing?
    Oh wait, I can drop my Sony in the bog and it still works!

    Sony = phones for clumsy ****** ****** ***** *********!!!

    SPEC SHMEC!

    Z10STL100-2/10.1.0.4780 O2 Uk
    09-19-13 07:04 AM
  18. jedibeeftrix's Avatar
    the key point for me:

    do blackberry think they can charge the same money for the Z30 as sony will for the Z1?

    Z1 = 1920x1080 / Qualcomm 800 series SoC / IP58 waterproof chassis
    Z30 = 1280x720 / Qualcomm dual-core / plastic

    if they want to charge less, fair enough, no complaints from me...
    09-19-13 08:01 AM
  19. guygardner73's Avatar
    the key point for me:

    do blackberry think they can charge the same money for the Z30 as sony will for the Z1?

    Z1 = 1920x1080 / Qualcomm 800 series SoC / IP58 waterproof chassis
    Z30 = 1280x720 / Qualcomm dual-core / plastic

    if they want to charge less, fair enough, no complaints from me...
    Early reports suggest that they will charge less. Screen res is immaterial as your eyes cant tell the difference. I have trouble differentiating between 1080p and 720p on a 42" television let alone a 5" screen.

    BlackBerry 10 doesn't require a quad core processor to run buttery smooth. Android devices do, there is a noticeable difference between quad core droids and dual core ones.

    I think the Z30 has an aluminium strip running round it. The front is plastic but the back is glass weave, not plastic.


    I think that the price will be around 450 quid. I think this will be priced to shift.



    Z10STL100-2/10.1.0.4780 O2 Uk
    09-19-13 12:05 PM
  20. JBML007's Avatar
    Early reports suggest that they will charge less. Screen res is immaterial as your eyes cant tell the difference. I have trouble differentiating between 1080p and 720p on a 42" television let alone a 5" screen.

    BlackBerry 10 doesn't require a quad core processor to run buttery smooth. Android devices do, there is a noticeable difference between quad core droids and dual core ones.

    I think the Z30 has an aluminium strip running round it. The front is plastic but the back is glass weave, not plastic.


    I think that the price will be around 450 quid. I think this will be priced to shift.



    Z10STL100-2/10.1.0.4780 O2 Uk
    The front screen is plastic!?

    Posted via CB10
    09-19-13 12:10 PM
  21. anon(2729369)'s Avatar
    BlackBerry 10 doesn't require a quad core processor to run buttery smooth. Android devices do, there is a noticeable difference between quad core droids and dual core ones.
    My Z10 disagrees, especially when using BBM. That thing needs two cores and an extra battery pack just for itself

    I think that the price will be around 450 quid. I think this will be priced to shift.
    I'm 99% sure you're wrong. They will try to flog them at �550 and gradually lower the price to �500. It's their flagship device and they still think their brand is worth something.
    09-19-13 12:11 PM
  22. 1magine's Avatar
    My 70 year old mother can see the difference between 1080p and 720P. If you can't you need glasses. You sound like my friend who took out her cheap Sony headphone and put in my $200 Shures and said she didn't hear a difference. Turns out she had lost 50% hearing - - ooops. Get it checked.

    Next Android runs just as efficiently or more so than BB10. Sorry - it's just true. You want to compare Android 1.1 to Blackberry - then compare it to BB OS5.

    There is no metal on the casing of the Z30. Its plastic and a glass weave back.
    09-19-13 12:49 PM
  23. guygardner73's Avatar
    The front screen is plastic!?

    Posted via CB10
    No, sorry I meant the surrounding frame. I'm sure that the screen is glass.

    Z10STL100-2/10.1.0.4780 O2 Uk
    09-19-13 12:50 PM
  24. 1magine's Avatar
    The front screen is plastic!?

    Posted via CB10
    Wouldn't surprise me, until the 9500 all BBs had plastic screens. And since then, the Flagship OS7 device - 9850, had a plastic screen.
    09-19-13 12:51 PM
  25. 1magine's Avatar
    No, sorry I meant the surrounding frame. I'm sure that the screen is glass.

    Z10STL100-2/10.1.0.4780 O2 Uk
    Don't be so sure.
    09-19-13 12:51 PM
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