- REALITY CHECK
The Z30 is not going to compete - doesn't have a shot at this point. We are talking about BlackBerry guys... who here really believe that we will see anything different from what they ALWAYS do. I'm not even sure how much carrier support they will be able to count on - most likely the Z30 is going to be a "special" order item only.
What is sad is I think the same 2 million people that bought the Z10, that later went out and bought the Q10 are the only ones that will buy the Z30... so while BB might have sold 6 million BB10 devices, they only added 2 million BB10 customers (who were already BBOS customers).09-11-13 02:50 PMLike 0 -
Posted via CB1009-11-13 05:52 PMLike 0 - REALITY CHECK
The Z30 is not going to compete - doesn't have a shot at this point. We are talking about BlackBerry guys... who here really believe that we will see anything different from what they ALWAYS do. I'm not even sure how much carrier support they will be able to count on - most likely the Z30 is going to be a "special" order item only.
What is sad is I think the same 2 million people that bought the Z10, that later went out and bought the Q10 are the only ones that will buy the Z30... so while BB might have sold 6 million BB10 devices, they only added 2 million BB10 customers (who were already BBOS customers).
Boggles the mind.
But I love my Q10.09-11-13 11:32 PMLike 0 - You know, I really don't think the z30 needs much more than what it is already rumored to have. It's already going to be much faster than the z10.. in order to get a WOW factor, it needs a new feature... not better specs, those are already good. Even at that, blackberry will still continue unnoticed.
Posted via that z10!09-12-13 10:06 PMLike 0 - REALITY CHECK
The Z30 is not going to compete - doesn't have a shot at this point. We are talking about BlackBerry guys... who here really believe that we will see anything different from what they ALWAYS do. I'm not even sure how much carrier support they will be able to count on - most likely the Z30 is going to be a "special" order item only.
What is sad is I think the same 2 million people that bought the Z10, that later went out and bought the Q10 are the only ones that will buy the Z30... so while BB might have sold 6 million BB10 devices, they only added 2 million BB10 customers (who were already BBOS customers).
I'd have to disagree 100%.
Clearly blackberry has changed, they are working towards change, that is not easy.
Get out of here with that negativety.
Posted via that z10!Sager-Naji likes this.09-12-13 10:09 PMLike 1 -
- REALITY CHECK
The Z30 is not going to compete - doesn't have a shot at this point. We are talking about BlackBerry guys... who here really believe that we will see anything different from what they ALWAYS do. I'm not even sure how much carrier support they will be able to count on - most likely the Z30 is going to be a "special" order item only.
What is sad is I think the same 2 million people that bought the Z10, that later went out and bought the Q10 are the only ones that will buy the Z30... so while BB might have sold 6 million BB10 devices, they only added 2 million BB10 customers (who were already BBOS customers).
Posted using CB10 on my awesome Z10. #IChooseBlackBerry1009-12-13 11:52 PMLike 0 -
- The 64 bits in all reality will NOT be faster, suck more juice and have all kinds of other issues because it is a pioneer in mobile OS and bugs will need to be ironed out....09-13-13 12:24 AMLike 0
- BlackBerry isn't trying to market BB10. Look at how much cash they had on hand when they launched the Z10, Q10 and Q5 then look at the marketing they had for those devices and how little of that cash they spent. BlackBerry executives aren't that dumb - don't get me wrong, they are dumb, just not THAT dumb.
BlackBerry isn't marketing these phones because they aren't willing to invest the money in trying to make the products sell. BlackBerry has been trying to find a buyer for a while now. Rumors claim that they were trying to sell before BB10 even launched. They need to keep that horde of cash to help entice someone into buying them. BlackBerry rushed the BB10 devices to market to show potential buyers that they have something new for them to work with. They don't care if people buy the phones or not. They just hope some other company sees the work that they have already started, and buys them.
Posted via CB1009-13-13 12:25 AMLike 0 - Include with the Z30 a free miracast HDMI dongle. The dongle would work with any BlackBerry 10 phone. Use BBM to video chat using Tv and Z30 camera, come on BlackBerry, get creative. They can advertise with some type of theme of "who needs a tablet when you can have 50" display" or something like that. Doesn't that fit in Thorsten's vision of a single smart device that connects to what are essentially peripherals (no need for tablets?).09-13-13 01:06 AMLike 0
- Edit: I think BlackBerry needs to reinforce confidence in all its owners and potential buyers.(no sell)
Advertisement I watch a good amount of tv and don't notice too many BlackBerry commercials
I also think they should think about having different specs:
Screen is fine to me(opinion)
3 gigs of ram
2.0+ dual core or 1.7+ quad core
32 gigs internal storage
Camera is fine with me(opinion) just needs good low light, zoom, and aperture
$199 on contract $450-500 off
Maybe BlackBerry should include a stylus pen for the z30 like the galaxy note and a case? That could win some ppl over
What you think?!!Last edited by Clifdenhill; 09-13-13 at 04:36 AM.
09-13-13 04:04 AMLike 0 - Still very cool, though. So is a fingerprint scanner. There is nothing cool about the Z30 (at least not yet). And just to be clear, I'm saying this from a consumer's perspective, not necessarily my own. Though I do hate phablets.09-13-13 12:16 PMLike 0
- No negative guesses. All I'm saying is that if the leaks are true, then the general public won't be wowed by an underspecced and unexciting phone by a company whose prospects are unsure.
I'd love it if the Z30 were to become a success. But does anyone really believe that it might be?h20work likes this.09-13-13 12:42 PMLike 1 - Include with the Z30 a free miracast HDMI dongle. The dongle would work with any BlackBerry 10 phone. Use BBM to video chat using Tv and Z30 camera, come on BlackBerry, get creative. They can advertise with some type of theme of "who needs a tablet when you can have 50" display" or something like that. Doesn't that fit in Thorsten's vision of a single smart device that connects to what are essentially peripherals (no need for tablets?).09-13-13 12:53 PMLike 0
- No negative guesses. All I'm saying is that if the leaks are true, then the general public won't be wowed by an underspecced and unexciting phone by a company whose prospects are unsure.
I'd love it if the Z30 were to become a success. But does anyone really believe that it might be?
i know that battery life lasts over 24 hours, amazing upgraded hub, New wow with their microphone. And many more features.
If people keep thinking negatively rather than giving the product a shot, yes it will die. I think we should re-define what cool means! Is it how useful the device can be letting us multi task and execut somany things at the same time or 100, 000,000 apps that we downlowd and delete the next day!
Z30 is a beautiful device, BB10 is the best platform out there and let's not forget that Blackberry invented Smart phones so they guys know what they are doing!
Media should really find a new topic and let Blackberry show what BB10 is all about. If it's good enough for US government and Mercedes Benz, I'm sure it's good for everyday users like us.
BTW love my Z10, never going back to iphone and will never touch a crappy full of bug Samsung!09-13-13 01:04 PMLike 0 - REALITY CHECK
The Z30 is not going to compete - doesn't have a shot at this point. We are talking about BlackBerry guys... who here really believe that we will see anything different from what they ALWAYS do. I'm not even sure how much carrier support they will be able to count on - most likely the Z30 is going to be a "special" order item only.
What is sad is I think the same 2 million people that bought the Z10, that later went out and bought the Q10 are the only ones that will buy the Z30... so while BB might have sold 6 million BB10 devices, they only added 2 million BB10 customers (who were already BBOS customers).
It's really funny how everyone thinks they know everything about BB!
have you even worked with a BB10 device?
Z30 hasn't come out yet and people like you are trying to kill it.
All you say is I think, I'm not sure. Well then until you are certain keep your negative guesses to yourself!!hazarder likes this.09-13-13 01:05 PMLike 1 - You know, I really don't think the z30 needs much more than what it is already rumored to have. It's already going to be much faster than the z10.. in order to get a WOW factor, it needs a new feature... not better specs, those are already good. Even at that, blackberry will still continue unnoticed.
Posted via that z10!
Problem for BlackBerry is they haven't done a great job of showing off the Z10 keyboard and comparing it to others, and it's difficult to show of the hun in a 30 TV commercial. But if you have touchless controls, or a new always on voice controls it seems easier to show that off.
Posted via CB1009-13-13 02:10 PMLike 0 - If there was no app gap between BB10 and iOS, then the Z30 would compete with iPhone 5 capably: it's got a higher resolution screen, a larger screen, a fast processor, a sublime OS... but without apps, it's a niche market device where any iPhone is a mass-market device. So, what the Z30 needs is what BB10 needs: close the app gap.... oh, then tell the entire WORLD that the app gap is closed.
They need to pay "Big Bang Theory" script writers to write in that Sheldon uses a BB10 device and Penny uses an iPhone and have them battle a bit. Have Penny say things like "I thought it was only available in Europe" and "Don't I need to have a special plan?" etc. and Sheldon can act like his usual know-it-all self and discount those rumours. I wonder if BBT would accept 2 million dollars to do that? It would pay the production costs for the entire episode.09-13-13 02:11 PMLike 0
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