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  1. Skeevecr's Avatar
    I don't think the screen is five inches. The bezel is making the device appear larger than what it is (from what I see). I'm using the SG4 right now, and I have no problem using it with one hand. A five inch device with all that bezel is off putting to those that like to use their device with one hand.
    5 inch even with zero bezel would be off putting to anyone with vaguely normal hands to use one-handed, the reality is that when you move up to any 5" phone you are trading off the one-handed use for the extra screen real estate.
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    07-14-13 08:44 AM
  2. Skeevecr's Avatar
    Way to go BlackBerry !! This phone looks great. The light metal on the bottom and up to the top it's all glass. Together with the glass weave back of the Q10 this is going to be beautiful. I'm guessing the top and back are Q10 like and the bottom is like the Z10.

    Specs? I'm hoping for 1080p just because. But I'll be satisfied with 720p on screen, because it records in 1080p with the video app and has hdmi output. I hope the camera will be 13mp. How about 4gb of RAM and at least 32gb of storage. Maybe an option for 64gb?
    It is almost certainly not metal at the bottom, it is simply the same thing as on a z10 in another colour.

    As far as specs, it is likely to be 720p, 8mp camera, 2gb ram and 16gb of storage with the latter being because they won't want to needlessly split the SKU's when they include an sd card slot.
    07-14-13 08:47 AM
  3. Punjabi84's Avatar
    To the comments about can't be a dual due to responsiveness, my z10 is faster on 10.2.448 the cascades settings app is really fast.

    The rest of it looks laggy, which may indicate 1080p which if true makes us hope for uboptimized quad.

    Compare 10.2 to 10.0 1400 to 2000 on geekbench so software spending up hardware is there.

    Posted via CB10
    07-14-13 08:51 AM
  4. Pete The Penguin's Avatar
    It. Won't. Have. This.
    The SoC is the dual core SnapDragon 400 clocked at 1.5GHz with the Adreno 305 GPU and LP-DDR2.
    Not sure which part number BlackBerry have picked, could be either 8030AB, 8230AB, 8630AB or 8930AB.
    http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Snapd...ystem_on_chip)

    Posted from The Force wielding tap-dancing mouse on secret pantless missions (hiding in Jaydee's backseat)
    07-14-13 09:01 AM
  5. madman0141's Avatar
    Don't tell me Snowden worked for BlackBerry also.
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    07-14-13 09:22 AM
  6. Bobert_123's Avatar
    Nasty...
    07-14-13 09:23 AM
  7. madman0141's Avatar
    Even though I [email protected] a lot I will get it if Sprint decides to get BB10. I will never get an apple phone. Looks cool.
    07-14-13 09:23 AM
  8. madman0141's Avatar
    OP have Snowden do a longer video please. He can stay at my house if he brings the phone.
    07-14-13 09:25 AM
  9. BB10QNX's Avatar
    Getting an error on this end about 3 seconds in, anyone else? Video won't play through.
    07-14-13 09:37 AM
  10. anon(2729369)'s Avatar
    Why couldn't they make it pretty? Looks like a mutilated Z10.
    07-14-13 09:40 AM
  11. aha's Avatar
    Why? CB got the video from this thread

    Posted via CB10
    CB does deserve the credit to attract OP to create the thread here.
    07-14-13 09:43 AM
  12. anon(2729369)'s Avatar
    The SoC is the dual core SnapDragon 400 clocked at 1.5GHz with the Adreno 305 GPU and LP-DDR2.
    Not sure which part number BlackBerry have picked, could be either 8030AB, 8230AB, 8630AB or 8930AB.
    Snapdragon (system on chip) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    Posted from The Force wielding tap-dancing mouse on secret pantless missions (hiding in Jaydee's backseat)
    Nah...
    http://forums.crackberry.com/blackbe...ne-a10-827769/
    07-14-13 09:44 AM
  13. Blackberry_Boss's Avatar
    The phone looks good, I know that that might not be final product. Makes me kinda wish I saved up and waited for this instead. Now I have to wait out this stupid 2 year contract and switch to T-Mobile. I wonder if it really will have a removable back because that looks like a metal body. They should have just made it alll glass.

    Posted via CB10
    07-14-13 09:44 AM
  14. ianbordas's Avatar
    Looks like a Zzzzzzz10.

    Everyone's a critic.. So what do you want it to look like? An IPhone? Samsung? HTC?

    Posted via CB10
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    07-14-13 09:52 AM
  15. Omnitech's Avatar
    I don't think that's five inches, i think it's bigger.

    That's what s.... oh nevermind.

    Re: the specs - I don't give a leap about a 13MP camera - you don't need 13MP to take great shots. The iPhone 4/5 has an 8MP camera and overall stomps on the Z10 because of the superior autofocus, color balance/tonal curve and low-light performance. I still say BBRY should put a Nikon camera module in their flagship smartphone.

    Might be useful to have 3GB RAM though - the Android runtime really increases the memory requirement over a "single OS" device.
    07-14-13 10:09 AM
  16. Cleanton's Avatar
    Too biggggg...
    07-14-13 10:11 AM
  17. Saiga's Avatar
    Crazy, to see what two struggling smartphone companies can come up with these days.

    LG used to struggle to get anyone interested in their smartphones. They were completely irrelevant for a long time and faced a huge up hill battle. LG still don't sell like Samsung does, but they are doing pretty well now. I don't have the exact number, but I'm pretty sure they sold over 10 million devices last quarter. Thanks mostly to very well designed phones like the Optimus G, Optimus G pro and their ultra affordable, yet well specced Lucid 2. LG's come back has gone a lot better than BlackBerry's has.



    Click the link above and look what LG, a struggling smartphone company, with huge amounts of competition is putting out next month.

    That beautiful peice of hardware is called the LG Optimus G2. It uses a 2.3 GHz Snapdragon 800 quad core processor, Adreno 330 GPU and has 3GB of ram. The screen is a 5" ips panel with a resolution of 1920 x 1080p and its bezel is tiny. The camera is the only peice of hardware on the G2 that isn't top of line (only because of Nokia). It is a 13mp camera though.

    A phone like the G2 is what a struggling smartphone company should put out. A phone that makes people say wow and deserves to get noticed. The A10? Not so much.

    The G2 proves that LG is trying to stay rellavant in the smartphone business. Now, compare what we know about the A10 with the G2 and see if we can say the same about BlackBerry. I don't think BlackBerry is even trying to stay in business at this point, especially if the rumored A10 specs turn out to be true. It just doesn't add up. BlackBerry execs can call it an experience race all they want, but with Jelly Bean - soon to be Key Lime Pie - and almost a million apps, I'm pretty sure the G2 offers a great experience to go along with those specs.

    Besides the most faithful of BlackBerry followers, who would pay flagship prices for the A10 over the G2? I don't have a crystal ball, but I can't imagine very many people would. Hopefully BlackBerry notices what LG is doing, and they rethink the A10 a little.

    Typed on my Dev Alpha C, Posted Via CB10
    07-14-13 10:14 AM
  18. southlander's Avatar
    Well one positive for sure is it means BlackBerry is putting out (most likely) several flagship devices per year. They need to release hardware more often than they have the last few years. They had implied that BlackBerry 10 would make design easier. Appears so.

    Posted via BlackBerry 10
    07-14-13 10:17 AM
  19. advcomputer's Avatar
    Looks like a large z10, which is not a bad thing.

    Hope they use a snapdragon 800 series quad core and not the same processor as the z10, which BB is struggling with to get good speed out of. They cant get 1080p from a qualcomm S400,

    May be they can also put the power port on the bottom, so that items as a mophie juicebox can be used instead of having some weird hump on the side to accommodate the port such as on the image bvelow for the z10.

    Video Blackberry A10 hands on-14247.jpg
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    07-14-13 10:18 AM
  20. anon(3896606)'s Avatar
    A phone that makes people say wow and deserves to get noticed. The A10? Not so much.
    I didn't say "wow", at any point in time during that video.
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    07-14-13 10:18 AM
  21. taylorblackberry's Avatar
    Why does it matter, samsungs phones have smaller and bigger versions, the iPhone has a small and big one, bb might as well have one too.

    Its also good because bb is competing with android devices in the 5" form, and android/iPhone/windows phone with the 4.2" ... The q10 is in a league of its own.
    This is all part of the catching up, in par with competition. I like were blackberry is heading, I just want them to release the A10 before apple rumored big screen device.

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    07-14-13 10:23 AM
  22. Omnitech's Avatar
    The G2 proves that LG is trying to stay rellavant in the smartphone business. Now, compare what we know about the A10 with the G2 and see if we can say the same about BlackBerry. I don't think BlackBerry is even trying to stay in business at this point, especially if the rumored A10 specs turn out to be true.

    Companies like LG and Samsung are very different than Blackberry - they are raw electronics manufacturing powerhouses - especially Samsung.

    Blackberry is more like Apple - a software and design house that outsources their device manufacturing for the most part. (With 2 key differences: Blackberry actually has a full-fledged production line in Canada, and all the Verizon Z10s are produced there. Apple on the other hand uses an Apple-proprietary CPU series that NO other company uses, which helps insulate them from some of the brutal hardware specsmanship wars.)

    But Blackberry will NEVER compete head-to-head with a company like Samsung, which among other things:

    • Is the largest RAM manufacturer in the world.
    • Is the largest flat-panel display manufacturer in the world.
    • Is one of the largest CPU manufacturers in the world.
    • Is one of the largest contract semiconductor manufacturers in the world. (Makes Apple's CPUs, among others.)


    Now LG is not quite as vertically integrated as Samsung is, but they are still way more heavily involved in component-level manufacturing than Blackberry will ever be. Expecting Blackberry to get the jump on companies like LG and Samsung on the latest generation hardware is absurd. Apple sometimes gets those bragging rights because they work extensively in some cases with manufacturers to pioneer a new category of product - but I just don't think Blackberry has the resources to even do that.

    So what they can bring to the table is a unique and elegant software experience, nice industrial design, and perhaps some serious security features for the customers that need that sort of thing.

    This is why what they really need to do is perfect the OS and continue to really innovate, and bring unique and compelling functionality to market. So far their track record in that regard is spotty at best, they have some execution problems and software quality problems. But that, I think, is where they will distinguish themselves. Trying to be first to market with the latest display or latest CPU is a fool's errand when you are dealing with vertically-integrated companies like Samsung who not only fabricate a large percentage of the raw components that go into their devices, they also sell those components to most of their competitors.
    07-14-13 10:29 AM
  23. Omnitech's Avatar
    Oh and I find it kind of interesting how BlackBerry seems to have more or less nominated various Vietnamese entities as their chosen dissemination point for advance product leaks.
    07-14-13 10:36 AM
  24. bambinoitaliano's Avatar
    2 inches shorter than what I need. If they are going to go bigger might as well replace the playbook size. Not going to replace my Z just for an extra cm or two.
    07-14-13 10:41 AM
  25. Andrew4life's Avatar
    You're being logical. BlackBerry is anything but logical. Evidence the Frankenberry.....

    Don't set yourself up for disappointment; this may not arrive until the holidays.
    I can't be disappointed because I am not getting it. I already have a Z10. The biggest problem I have is the short battery life , but I've gotten used to charging it all the time.

    Posted via CB10
    07-14-13 11:03 AM
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